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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2009, 01:17:33 PM »
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on May 04, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 04:53:45 PM »
Quote from: B-man on June 17, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on May 04, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?

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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2009, 02:20:34 AM »
Quote from: B-man on June 17, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on May 04, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?
Natural desires...for food drink companionship sex, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2009, 09:15:56 AM »
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on June 20, 2009, 02:20:34 AM
Quote from: B-man on June 17, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on May 04, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?
Natural desires...for food drink companionship sex, etc.
Hi WS,

Natural desires of themselves can't be a cause for desiring incompatible things, can they?  Assuming Adam and Eve existed in a state of perfection, this perfection suggests that each choice before the fall was perfect in every way....hence, all natural desires would in perfection of the intellect be directed only to the perfection of each desire.  Something must stimulate natural desires in such a way that they become unnatural or corrupt.

The question is still begged--the cause of desiring incompatible things must first be resolved before the question in the OP can be answered, imo.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009, 12:51:04 PM »
The cause of all suffering is that people want things to be different than they are.  Accept life in it's totality; don't pick and choose.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2009, 08:38:13 PM »
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The cause of all suffering is that people want things to be different than they are.  Accept life in it's totality; don't pick and choose.
I think you miss my point.  Reference perfection again: if every desire, thought, sensation, feeling, emotion and judgment were made from a wholly perfect state, no one would want things to be different.  In a state of perfection, why would we want anything to be different?  What's better than perfect?  How does one improve on perfection?  The philosopher who noted that people desired things that were incompatible begs the same question.  If we assume from Scripture that Adam and Eve operated in perfection in all inner reality (spirit, body, mind of the individual) interacting with a perfect external reality, there exists no room for "incompatible" things.  Perfection has no room for incompatibility; incompatibility references imperfection.

What did Adam stain reality with when he ate the fruit that humans began desiring incompatible things?  The desire of incompatible things requires a pathology, one that corrupts the perfection of desire such that incompatible things become appealing.

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2010, 12:46:56 AM »
Fat is good, It stores more light I don't know, what do you think?
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2010, 06:25:45 PM »
Quote from: B-man on June 20, 2009, 09:15:56 AM
Hi WS,

Natural desires of themselves can't be a cause for desiring incompatible things, can they?
I want to spend Sunday with my buddies, but I want to Sunday with my girlfriend too.  Combining the two is definitely a cause for unhappiness.  Now what?

I desire ice cream right before bedtime every night.  I desire health too.  What now?

Yes, natural desires can conflict with each other.
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2010, 06:35:02 PM »
wanting ice cream is not the same as the desire for richness wealth fame of fancy cars, of better prettier women or men.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 08:11:36 PM »
The Source of Unhappiness?

Holding grudges.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2010, 09:04:24 PM »
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on May 04, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?

many reasons and incompatible desires is one of them, but I think that all reasons are derived from the main cause which is the hate possibility.
Hate is a human possible or a human inkling from our childhood, I mean it seems that a carnivour dosen't hate it's victim but eats it to stay alife and feed it's cubs because it only kills when it has to, it's a compulsory killer.
But man has an additional idea that is not exist in any other creature, It's hate.
And from this idea, human desires take a dangerous course in many cases despite it might seem perfect or complete respectful desires to others.
Believe me if God is Love
And we must awe God
Then we must awe Love

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If we understand to respect Love and awe it then at least we will live in a normal and harmonic way with nature and each other without unnatural physical or spritual desires.

But hate is a human attribute now and an experience that man can never forget like a winnig gambling game, actually we are addict to hate, which causes in my opinion incompatible desires despite all ethnic or moral dictums and slogans.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2010, 09:35:09 PM »
Amazing post.

Very Enlightening to read these words.

One ingredient for Happiness is Compassion:

Compassion seeks always to unite, healing that which is not whole, supporting that which is whole. Compassion senses that which is in imbalance and allows for wholeness or balance or equilibrium to be re-established or retained. In extending, compassion is action in essence, healing in expression. Unity compassion cares not about perpetration, rather it cares only for collective healing beyond the collapse of structure.
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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2010, 02:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on May 04, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

Or maybe they just don't really know what they want?If they know exactly what they want they won't be desiring for two different things, don't they?
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2010, 09:58:12 PM »
Define "happiness".
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2010, 01:13:32 AM »
Quote from: janine on January 09, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Define "happiness".
Contentment.
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