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« on: August 02, 2009, 02:58:03 PM »
1. Freedom to choose what's in your plan.

2. Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs.

3. Freedom to choose high-deductible coverage.

4. Freedom to keep your existing plan.

5. Freedom to choose your doctors.

Source: http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_obama.fortune/index.htm

Yippee, we were spoiled on all that freedom we had anyway, right?
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2009, 09:23:31 PM »
Freedom must have been highly over-rated.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2009, 09:29:09 PM »
Makes no difference who gets voted in, they will try and take our freedom from us. In a one world communist government, they won't grant us freedom. They are currently trying to take that away.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2009, 09:41:15 PM »
Quote from: the J Man on August 02, 2009, 09:29:09 PM
Makes no difference who gets voted in, they will try and take our freedom from us. In a one world communist government, they won't grant us freedom. They are currently trying to take that away.


 Obama, is taking the Constitutional freedoms more than any president before him, I see Hitler tactics. Watch the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, a documentary. It did matter who we elected in truth J-man.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 05:07:37 PM »
Who needs freedom when Democrats can get bragging rights for one of their own being in the White House?
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 06:08:40 PM »
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Who needs freedom when Democrats can get bragging rights for one of their own being in the White House?


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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 03:18:09 PM »
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Who needs freedom when Democrats can get bragging rights for one of their own being in the White House?

White House would be better if unoccupied
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 06:10:01 PM »
Quote from: BAH-BLAH on August 10, 2009, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: admin on August 06, 2009, 05:07:37 PM
Who needs freedom when Democrats can get bragging rights for one of their own being in the White House?

White House would be better if unoccupied
 

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 07:30:39 PM »
So, people won't be able to buy their own insurance any more?
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 01:44:38 PM »
People will be able to buy their own........until they can't.
Thats the problem.
Two things.
1. Those who buy their own now, and are not in a group plan, will still be able to, but mightily tempted to buy inevitably cheaper govt plan....PLUS the restrictions on the private plans, and the requirements that they be "approved" plans will dwindle those options away
2. in the case of employer provided, its simple. My employer has 500ish employees. We have Blue Cross. So, govt plan comes out and say its 40% cheaper....DUH, employers will definately save money, or at best let you keep yours if you the employee wish to pay the diff.  And finally, I also own a small biz, w/ 18 employees. i offer no insurance, frankly I cant. I am going to be run out of business to be honest. i am compelled to insure the employees OR pay an 8% payroll tax per employee and they get govt insurance. I will shut the doors, sell the property and hang a huge banner "THANKS OBAMA" on the abandoned building.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 08:05:36 AM »
A friend sent me this new symbol for the medical arts - seems appropriate:
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 08:30:57 AM »
Private plans will never be able to compete with public plans. The public plans don't have to be efficient or show a profit. Bah-Blah is correct. Private plans will exist until they can't.

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 10:13:52 PM »
Why would good Christians want to give up anything in order for EVERYONE to have health care?  This has become a "I have mine so who cares if you live or die.......and you want to compare Obama to Hitler? 

If you want to know the facts, pick up the latest copy of TIME magazine (with Dr. Obama) on the cover.  It very clearly outlines the upside and downside for all the different demographics.  Some give up a little to give everyone coverage....is that so bad?
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 10:42:09 PM »
There are FIVE plans floating through congress - the bills are mammoth and complex - and the outcome of each will be the death of private insurance and establishment of socialized medicine.

The only difference between the bills is how long it will take the government to kill off private insurance.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2009, 06:22:10 PM »
Quote from: spirit on August 13, 2009, 10:13:52 PM
Why would good Christians want to give up anything in order for EVERYONE to have health care?  This has become a "I have mine so who cares if you live or die.......and you want to compare Obama to Hitler?  

If you want to know the facts, pick up the latest copy of TIME magazine (with Dr. Obama) on the cover.  It very clearly outlines the upside and downside for all the different demographics.  Some give up a little to give everyone coverage....is that so bad?


 Why would a good Christian want to kill the elderly? Pay for abortions? Deny all healthcare? Give the government access to banking accounts? Become socialist. Now if you would like my email so the socialist in the whitehouse, can track me IM me and I will give it to you (not). Not to mention hope for those that will die before cancer treatment will be approved, that is if the Obama death panel, approves it. Nothing Christian, nothing about these bills. Now if a person does not have healthcare due to unemployment, parttime worker and such, yes reform, but not a socialist government death squad. That is just reprobate the whole thing. BTW, who gives up a little? People will give up everything for the minority of people who are to lazy too work.
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