Give a LITTLE? A LITTLE?! Have you even read any of this bill? We'd be giving up choice which is everything in a so-called free country. We already have enough socialized medicine. The emergency room is free to those who have no insurance. Then there's medicare for low income people. But the idea that we have to give up our choice and let the government make decisions on what treatments we can receive, what doctor we see, etc. is not giving up a little.

It could kill many people. I choose my doctor based on many things and one of those things is if he/she has good sense or not. Doctors are people too and we've all been to some who make strange diagnosis decisions and prescribe the wrong things. As it stands, we have the right to choose another doctor and people have saved their lives in doing so. But in making doctors another government employee we remove the invisible hand of the free market that allows us to choose what products and services are good enough to continue and which people should consider another profession. This is the government taking control of an industry, it's not about "helping the poor."  We already have medicare that's a government run healthcare system and it's not good. So now they want to build on their failure and put us all under an even worse form of medicare. It's madness.  Those of you who are supporting it based on loyality to liberalism or Democrats are only hurting yourselves.

It's not what's in the bill spirit, it's the unintended consequences. I'll say it again slower. U N I N T E N D E D consequences. It is not what's IN the bill necessarily that worries people. Just like it's in the bill that the public option will co-exist alongside the private option. There will soon e no private option if the government doesn't have to show a profit or even be efficient. PLUS there is an 8 percent payroll tax penalty for companies opting for the private plan. no company with any sense will penalize themselves that way. They will simply go the government route. Again, think unintended consequences not just what is in or not in the plan.

You know there is an old saying which goes like this...Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.   Obama already has a stack of lies piled up like a fat kid at a pancake eating contest.  For the life of me, if you objectively look at the evidence, I do not believe why anyone would believe his promises.  Particularly when this bill is written so loosely as to promote administrative interpretation to the fullest.  Time to wake up you liberals and forget trying to defend your  party.  You will all end up beside me in the political camps (that is how Dachau began by the way) if you don't stop this man.

"Dear God, make me dumb, (mute)
that I may not to Dachau come."

This is what Obama want folks.  For you to be QUIET!  You had better speak now, while you still have a voice.

This is the problem I have had with this since day one:  I don't like anyone, especially the government telling me that I have to spend my money on any certain thing.  Not lightbulbs or cable or health insurance.

I have always paid my medical bills and although I understand the need for long-term care insurance or even "catastrophe" insurance I know that I cannot afford any of them.  Working 60+ hours/wk, I still live from pay check to pay check and I know that I cannot afford another bill.

So what's going to happen to me when I am not able to pay for any insurance?  Under BO, I'll be fined and/or jailed. Which, I already know, I won't be able to pay any fines, either. But I guess removing me from the workforce is the best way to go, since I'm a criminal (sarcasm) who deserves to be removed from society for not having the money to pay for insurance. 

All of the supporters of that bill say, "Affordable coverage"... what is "affordable" and by whose definition? I mean, we're talking about a system that says that even though a person is only making minimum wage and (when I did only work 40 hrs) works a 40 hour work week, their income is "Excessive" and disqualifies them for ANY kind of government help... even in an emergency.

I do not trust our government enough ESPECIALLY this admininistration, to define "affordable" for me, make sure that my money isn't going to fund abortions, provide good healthcare or to tell me which procedures, tests or exams are "unnecessary" because they effect the bottom line.

I fully agree that something needs to be done. I just don't agree with what's being proposed.  I REALLY like the idea of only being able to use health insurance for emergencies and catastrophes, instead of for the "small stuff" too. I think it would drive costs WAY down if people were using it less. And as long as you're paying for your own annual checkups, meds (even with insurance assistance), and other visits to the doctor(s), your premiums should stay low and you get to keep your insurance.

If it worked more like that, it would make more sense - like fire insurance, you only use it when you need it, but get "credit" for installing a fire alarm. Want better rates on your health insurance? Use a gym and/or lose weight if you need to. But if "something happens" and you need that insurance, it's there.

With proper competition (opening the state lines to buyers of insurance) and using the insurance only when it's needed, I think it would bring the cost down enough so that even I could afford it (after my car is paid, anyway LOL).

Absolutely wrong though. Unfortunately, there are a lot of lies spreading about what the plan will or will not do. :-/

Curious.. do you have a link to the actual document?

The WHO ranks healthcare qualities and USA comes in at #37... out of 190 countries. inexcusable.  Heh, and countries that DO have a government plan rank ahead of us.

I used to live in one of those countries with "socialised" medicine and i have heard of maybe one or two instances when people have said what you say and literally thousands when everyone goes on about how great it is.

funny fact: 82% of canadians prefer their healthcare system compared to that used here in the U.S.

YES


Caring for the widows orphans is biblically the churches responsibility. As is taking care of 'brothers'   

wither they be old folks, poor, ill.  Never mind Time a one sided rag, read the US Constitution it is very clear on what the federal government is allowed to do.