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« on: January 15, 2003, 10:04:38 AM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I wonder how many vehicles those evil libruls can drive at once no matter how large their garages are, lol?[/quote]

And no matter how big their, ah, behinds are, to enable simultaneous driving.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2003, 11:48:05 AM »
Hatred? Nope. Just like I don't hate atheists. I disagree whole-heartedly with their views and many of their lifestyles. But not hate.

Perhaps I should have stated the sentence as "these liberals" instead of just "liberals." I am really an easy going guy, I get along with most everyone. Even liberals. It's just that this is a discussion forum...so I discuss what I disagree with.  :D

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2003, 11:48:05 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2003, 01:53:42 PM »
that's airplane.  when are you gonna get spellcheck on this thing, Lee?

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2003, 05:40:35 PM »
Hi Shorty. Look's like we have about the same number of posts!

I tend to vote on consertave lines. Mostly over the desire to see govt shrink, and I just don't like the far left special interest. But...the oil dependence and Saudi relationship reallybugs me too. We really need to become independent.

I have to admit though, anytime the Hollywood left gets involved, I tend to tune out :zzzz:

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2003, 10:26:17 AM »
Hey! It looks like I might be the first on the board to have an electric car! What prestige!

A few months ago my 1991 Land Cruiser threw a rod (I know they aren't supposed to do that, but there ya go) and we bought a Camry until we could decide what to do. Now we are out looking. I hate driving low. I've had trucks for years (very clean trucks by California emission standards) and I just need to be way up there so I can see how far the parking lot goes on I-5. So, if I'm very good we might be investing in an electric RAV4 this year.  :clap:

One of our contributions to the environment is to have only one car. We've been a one-car family for six years and it's been great! Not only is our family closer (really close since we got the Camry) and we save an incredible amount of money, but we help by parking our car in the garage and washing it at a recycled water car wash. One the most damaging problems to the environment in California is water runoff -- and the toxins that come off of fuel burning cars parked outside in a heavy rain is the single most controllable environamental hazard. That's where I think the laws should focus -- as well as offering larger incentives to invest in electric.

By the way, I'm a California librul and proud of it!

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2003, 11:25:53 AM »
Particiaredstone,

I am very disappointed that you plan to vote for Ralph Nater. He supports abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, and the new bill wrongly called the "Employment Non-Discrimination Act." The ENDA may sound nice, but it makes homosexuals a legal minority entitled to "Affirmative Action." In fact, under ENDA (proposed by Ted Kennedy), any time a homosexual wasn't hired--or was fired--he or she could sue their employer! That means that a company would have to hire a homosexual JUST BECAUSE they are homosexual. Nader thinks it's great!

He also supports partial birth abortion which murders a full-term viable infant (baby). Full term. Just like my son! For pictures go to http://www.prolife.com.

Now what in the world could possibly encourage you to vote for this guy? His enviromental stance? Does his enviromental stance ourweigh all of the other sludge? Really? :doh:

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2003, 04:50:39 PM »
Hey patriciaredstone-

If your Camry is 1997 or later, you better obey yet another commandment:  Thou shall change your oil
every 3000 miles, (or you may find yourself with another blown engine.)

Toyota doesn't know why, so they claim, but their four and six cylinders engines on their high-end cars (Lexus, Camry, and Avelon), tend to gel oil, and cause premature engine failures, sometimes even while still under their original warranty.

The engine warranties have been extended, but you know that a thrown rod, in certain instances, can be a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2003, 09:40:36 PM »
I was just sharing the story of my great bourgeois Western 4-car wealth.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2003, 08:57:59 AM »
I live in the "sticks" on 200 acres w/two stock tanks of apx two surface acres each (ponds to the rest of the US--stocks tanks in Texas!) about 2 miles from the city limits of a small town on a semi paved road (depending on whether or not the county has money for patching--goes to dirt at the top of the hill), and have deer, turkey, dove, duck, quail, beaver, fox, porcupine, racoons, opossums, cougar, skunk, bobcat, a large selection of reptiles (including lots of Diamond Back Rattler, Copperheads, Water Mocassins, and Coral snakes) and a whole slew of little 4 legged furry critters that seem to want to move into my house every year when it gets cold.   My tanks have native black bass up to about 8lbs that are extremly difficult to catch (smaller ones are easy to catch!), along with several varieties of pan fish, and catfish.  Spring time is an artist's canvas of wild flowers and the fall--well in this part of Texas we are usually a brown color from lack of rain and extreme heat during the summer.  The winter is colder per degree than any other place I have ever been (even though we don't have that much cold!) and the summer is miserably hot & humid--until the heat burns off the humidity in July and it gets just plain hot!
 I LOVE TEXAS!!!!!!!   :inlove:

And now you know why I will always have a 4x4 gas guzzeling SUV.  We plan to buy another one later this year (maybe a Jeep Cherokee Limited). We bought a used one for my oldest daughter and her husband last summer and really like the way it rides with it's full time 4x4 drive.

Patricia,  I know the feeling well about mall shopping---55-65 miles one way whether I go north to Ft. Worth or South to Waco.  I know about the insects in Mississippi also---You can keep them!!!  However, that swamp sounds like it would be a really neat place to get into--especially to do some photography!  The real insect problem around here for the last several years has been fire ant infestation and grasshopper plagues!  We may be also looking at a problem with Africanized Honey bees in the next several years--unfortunately.

Open invitation:  If any forum member ever makes it to Walnut Springs, just stop at the Lumber Yard or the Post Office and they will tell you how to get here!!!  If you have a camper, I have plenty of camping space!



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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2003, 09:06:39 AM »
Everthelass,

No, that's the ironic thing.  The smaller Toyotas, with their smaller four-bangers, seem immune to this problem, while the bigger sedans, and possibly trucks and vans, seem to be much more prone.

But a healthy respect for preventive maintenance is important for safety and economy of  all vehicles, of course. :)
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2003, 07:39:15 PM »
Norm,

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Everthelass,
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You know I love it when you call me that!  At 41 it's pleasant to be thought of as a lass . . .   ;)


[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]But a healthy respect for preventive maintenance is important for safety and economy of  all vehicles, of course.  [/quote]

Ah, yes.  I can't even get her to do her computer maintenance regularly . . .

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2003, 08:16:00 AM »
Norman Lear has founded an anti-SUV group with people like Arianna Huffington and Hollywood leftists like Chevy Chase - whose wife, the story is told, didn't want to move into an apartment building because they used too much wood in the d├ęcor!

Yet for all their weeping over trees cut down for lobbies and SUVs polluting the air, these liberal elitists don't practice what they preach. The New York Post points out that Lear has a 21-car garage! The average American owns about 8 cars in his entire life!

Also on the list are Gweneth Paltrow (Mercedes SUV), Barbra Streisand (multiple SUVs) and the Chevy Chases (SUV that they "hate" but keep.) This doesn't even bring up the cars they ruin in movies, their private jets, etc. :doh:

See, liberals think that they're so much smarter than us "idiots." They think they can exempt themselves from their own restricted policies because they have a greater need. What a bunch of hypocrites - but safe hypocrites, because they drive the safest vehicles they can find.  :crackup:
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2003, 10:27:24 AM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (admin @ Jan. 15 2003,09:16)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]See, liberals think that they're so much smarter than us "idiots."

 - but safe hypocrites, because they drive the safest vehicles they can find.  :crackup:[/quote]
Kind of a sweeping statement, Lee, re: "liberals".      

Even if the peple (that you referred to) are hypocrites...not following their own message....Is there anything wrong with their message?  

Wouldn't it be good for the U.S. (and the world population, in general) if our country could become more energy efficient and less wasteful?  Should we be just be greedy and leave nothing for future generations?  

Also, since when are SUVs safe?

I sense that you "hate" liberals and it wouldn't matter what the message was.   How can a message for energy efficiency be something to hate?

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2003, 01:00:52 PM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (Guest @ Jan. 15 2003,11:27)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--][!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]See, liberals think that they're so much smarter than us "idiots."

 - but safe hypocrites, because they drive the safest vehicles they can find.  :crackup:[/quote]
Kind of a sweeping statement, Lee, re: "liberals".      

Even if the peple (that you referred to) are hypocrites...not following their own message....Is there anything wrong with their message?  

Wouldn't it be good for the U.S. (and the world population, in general) if our country could become more energy efficient and less wasteful?  Should we be just be greedy and leave nothing for future generations?  

Also, since when are SUVs safe?

I sense that you "hate" liberals and it wouldn't matter what the message was.   How can a message for energy efficiency be something to hate?[/quote]
well...it would certainly be more palatable if we could see Babs driving around in a Hyundai :crackup:

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2003, 01:52:17 PM »
I believe that this is the same anti-SUV organization that started the "What would Jesus Drive?" campaign and the "SUV owners support terrorism" campaign where they would have an actor portraying an SUV driver say things like "I helped fly an airplain into the World Trade Center".  Highly offensive stuff.

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