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Jett, the caucus process IS a shouting contest. Voting is exactly how the general election is done. If we have been satisfied with vote counting in the general, it can be achieved in the primaries. No, caucuses are silly.

Jaime please read the following article.  It is much more concise than my ramblings.


http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/reawakening-liberty/2012/mar/19/ron-pauls-caucus-strategy-authentic-republicanism/

Yep.  Debate for long enough to know the candidates then one nation wide vote.  But then it would not take a billion dollars and selling of a candidates soul to the money wagon. 

Yep.  Debate for long enough to know the candidates then one nation wide vote.  But then it would not take a billion dollars and selling of a candidates soul to the money wagon.
 

Are you suggesting there is a politician that hasn't already done that?

Here is another thing to cut off the money tree.  Make being a lobbist a federal offence with a manatory 10 year sentence.

I would never support electronic voting machines unless there was a paper back up to go along with it. Even then I would have trouble trusting them because of how easy it is to game the system. There is just way too much evidence of tampering, or even potential tampering for any rational person of integrity to trust them.

If we can't thoroughly and trustworthily poll the populace to select a leader, then we are a nation to be pitied. If picture ID is too intrusive, then we have no hope. If a dependable and fraud proof means of counting can't be devised, then we have no hope.

We need to change it because from what I have seen so far in this primary season is a lot of fraud. Votes thrown out. Votes mis counted. Votes not counted.

The worst part is the media's influence over the whoe thing but maybe that should be another thread because it's that bad

Capt.
Hope you are not saying that caucus is the way to go.  If so I want to know what you have been smoking.

Last I checked I ain't smoke'in nutt'in :)

I do think the caucus method can protect us from direct democracy and you should know that our system does need protecting from democracy. It's the worst of alll worlds.
We should also fight tooth and nail to keep the electoral college in place for the same reason.

IF we don't then the people who are subject to lobbyiests, monied interests, media influence, peer pressure, propaganda, lies and trends will control the outcome of every election. Thos are usually the ones who reside in large population centers like LA, NYC, Philly, Detriot, Chicago etc. The people on the outskirts will lose out every time as a result and have no representation.

We see it today during this campaign. People who get their information from mainstream media constructs usually vote for the candidate that the media portrays as having the best chance to win (according to the media of course) while they black out the ones the elites and the media don't want us to know about.

The ONLY way to break up the monopoly of the two party crimocracy or at least keep the suckers honest is to be involved, and informed.

They thrive on a dumbed down, ill informed and un-involved electorate.

I hold the media equally complicit in the ruin on this country because they keep promoting only the candidates who favor the same paradign. Federal Reserve controls of our money supply. Internationalism through trans-national "trade agreements" that transfer our production base to third world countries and diminish our sovereignty as a nation. Membership in the United Nations which presides over EVERY trans-national orginization whether World Bank, IMF, WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, SPP, or the EU. They all favor the IRS (I Represent Satan) which arbitrarily takes our money to give to the international bankers of the Federal Reserve to pay tem interest on money they created out of thin air to begin with. They ALL favor policing the world, and engaging in wars that have nothing to do with protection of our freedom or our country. They also favor the candidates who think nothing of taking away our freedoms either in big chunks like the Patriot Act or NDAA but incrementally via passive legislation many times wrapped in bills that would seem unrelated to a rational mind.

Meanwhile they ignore or marginalize ALL opposing views that don't support the globalist agenda.


This should all be both alarming and encouraging to Christians. Alarming because  we see the fullfillment of prophesies that will culminate in the persecution of end times Saints. Encouraging because it will usher in the return of our Savior.

As for me and my house we will not support their agenda in any way shape or form either by voting for one of Satan's candidates or by supporting any part of their agenda.

I know. I know. Pretty strong language. Radical right? "Satan's candidates" ? Huh?

YES! Candidates who are working either knowingly or un-knowingly. Whether directly or indirectly to bring about Satan's plan for the establishment of the one world system (governmental and cashless financial).

IT"S NOT GOD"S PLAN. Jesus WILL destroy the one world government. The antichrist will emerge through the one world government and murder our brethern.

EVERY ONE of the candidates (except for Ron Paul) is in favor of the steps, the plans, the policies and positions that are helping to establish the New World order

I don't care if they proclaim God from the highest hill. I don't care if they say they are "pro life". I don't care if they will fight Obama.

We're being LIED to and I hold the media as responsible as any corrupt politician.