LOL.  So you shouldn't study from the source?  Do you not study from the Bible for Christianity?  Just like with communism I study the Communist Manifesto.  The sorta "bible" of communism.  So should you not believe anything with Christianity then? Your whole thing with that goes a long with Christianity.   Do you not go to church and study with people there? Or should you go to other churches to learn about your specific denomination?  


Uh no hon. It's not some delusion.  It's what it is and what it means and has meant that since it came to be.  LOL the anti-Christ is now communist? LOL and here I thought it was President Obama.  Just joking.  But seriously Jesus was a socialist hon.  If you read through the book of Acts the first Christian's there did communism.  Have you ever read Acts and studied it?

 

And people can easily lie too. People claim all the time they're persecuted here when they're told to play by the same rules as everyone else.  It's called the persecution complex.  We (as a country) persecute Muslims and Jews and pagans and don't forget McCarthyism and that persecution.  



Uh hon did you forget the part that those communist's were fighting for true communism and that's why they were killed?  Please don't twist things.  




But you've been doing that in this thread all a long with communism.  



LOL sorry to disappoint you hon but no I'm not.  As I said before the first Christian's in Acts were practicing what is called communism today.  Google Christian Communist's.  


And I can't stand republican rightwing fascists like George W. Bush.  I do like Fidel, Raul, Che and Lenin.




Only one's who have done any sort of persecuting are people like you.  In communism, guess what? We don't care.


Oh so now you're psychic.  Hmm and here I thought that was supposed to be a Satan sorta thing but you seem to have it down pat.  Hmm maybe you're of Satan?  But seriously communist's do not care.  I've had plenty of theological religious discussions with my communist friends and a lot of them like Jesus even if they don't believe in him they like the idea and story.  LOL oh yes that's so true that in fact Fidel Castro early last year went to an opening of a Catholic Church in Cuba. OMG! LOL.  You're too much.



Wow aren't you holier than thou? How would you like it if I said you didn't serve Christ?  I don't think you would like it very much would you?



They can do that.  They just have to be registered.  I used to know someone who went to Cuba and did some mission work and they were trying to get a church set up.  She said a well known member of the Communist party in Cuba was very supportive of their work and helping them out with the authorities.  This is Church of Christ too.  Psst hon communism is everything opposite of Satan. If you're wanting to find Satan's one world government look to capitalism.


No he is not.  You're not a communist nor know a thing about communism so you can't say.  Such nonsense.  Go to the Communist party website I mentioned (cpusa.org) and read everything there.  Nothing there is anywhere in North Korea.  You're lying and lying is a sin.  




Gee hon weren't you just saying above that people call themselves things all the time but are lying when talking about Castro and being a Christian? So which is it? If Kim Jong-Il is carrying the label of a communist and that makes him one then Fidel Castro is a Catholic Christian. You can't have it both ways.




Oh please.  Look at what capitalism has done in the last 8 years.  Invaded and occupied TWO countries, torture, persecuting people cause of faith (Muslims), making more people poor etc.  Get real.



Psst that's what communism is.  



LOL no they don't.  Only Cuba is pretty close but they still have a lot of work to do.  

 
LOL sorry you've seen too many red scare movies.  Were you around during McCarthyism?  

Communism is a complete fraud. It was devised purely to destabilize the West and destroy Christianity and is the antithesis to Jesus teachings. Its not a viable political or economic system that was designed to work and its creators knew this and its followers still do. Anyone who has embraced this fraud is a criminal and usually an authoritarian fanatic who will murder those who oppose them. Its also very possible that the Communist Manifesto is the False Prophet described in Revelation and its followers are the AntiChrist. Observe;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0By0xbst8
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov

I'm hip.

Joker, there is a MASSIVE difference in communism and what the early church did in the book of Acts. They voluntarily gave up certain things. Some people gave up everything, some people gave some. It was CHOICE. Communism is a government system that forces people to give up what they have and the government is certainly not going to have the same priorities as the early church or God....though a communist government seeks to become God so that there's not any independent thought or questioning of what they're doing.

The early American pilgrims tried communism for a winter and nearly starved (actually, about half died of starvation or disease due to malnutrition). It was because people learned that they could not work and yet still eat and so more and more people decided they didn't want to work. Finally the first governor of the colony instituted a total free market. He gave everyone a plot of land and told them that whatever they got to grow on that land or whatever animal they killed they could do with it whatever they wanted (keep it, sell it, give it away, whatever they wanted). It was a GREAT success and the overfill was shared with the Indians. It was partially from that failed experiment with communism that the American free market was born.

Hello
THough I might try to add some facts to this thread. They seem to be in short supply




Aleksandr Solzhenitsyns who spent 10 years in The Gulag in Communist Russia wrote the Pulitizer and Nobel Prize winning 'The Gulag Archipelago, and used the research of the official Soviet Statistician who had access to secret government files,

 I. A. Kurganov, estimated that between 1918 and 1959, at least 66 million died at the hands of the Communist rulers of Russia.'


These were 66 Million Christians.  
I have lots of Info on this topic and can be as graphic as you like..


"The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the Work of Jewish Brains, Jewish Dissatisfaction and Jewish Planning, whose goal is to create a New Order in the world.
What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish Brains and Jewish planning, shall also, through the same mental and Physical forces, Become a reality all over the world."
-American Hebrew, September 8, 1920


"Some call it Marxism — I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).


"The Communist Movement and ideology played an important part In Jewish life, particularly in the  1920s, 1930s and during and after World War II  
Jews became the leading element in the legal and illegal Communist Parties..
Jews were instructed to change their names so as "not confirm right-wing propaganda that presented Communism as an alien, Jewish conspiracy."
-Front cover Volume 5, 1971  Encyclopedia Judaica, published Jerusalem, Israel
Under the entry for "Communism":Vol. 5, page 792


 The flip side to Communism is not the market based economy based on sound money, but on Capitalism.


 "Capitalism was born from the money loan. Money lending contains the root idea of capitalism. Turn to the pages of the TALMUD and you will find that the Jews made an art of lending money. They were taught early to look for their chief happiness in the possession of money. They fathomed all the secrets that lay hid in money. They became Lords of Money and Lords of the World.'
SOMBART, WERNER. 20th century German economist




And Please spare me the nonsense about invading 2 nations
We invaded them for Israel and an oil pipeline to Haifa Israel as reported by the Israeli Haaretz and Jerusalem Post.


Chief Rabbi Metzger thanks Bush for intervening in Iraq
M. Wagner-Jerusalem Post 1/9/2008

During a short verbal exchange Wednesday at the Ben Gurion Airport Terminal, Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger thanked George Bush for the US military intervention in Iraq.
"I want to thank you for your support of Israel & in particular for Waging a War against Iraq," Metzger told Bush, according to the spokesman
Bush answered that the words "warmed his heart"




"Of course the Iraq war is about oil"
"We've treated the Arab world as a collection of big gas stations,
Our message to them is: Guys, keep your pumps open, prices low, be nice to the Israelis and you can do whatever you want out back. Osama and 9/11 is the distilled essence that represents everything going on out back."
-General John Abizaid (Ret.), the former CENTCOM Commander

I agree with those arguing that the the Bible favors collective ownership and brotherly equality. Not necessarily 19th century Marxism, but definitely little could be found in Scripture to support blanket Christian support for capitalist theory which teaches that if everyone is selfish it will be good for society.

I disagree with those who are arguing that Communism automatically relates to authoritarian, totalitarian dictatorships like Stalin or the Chinese Cultural Revolution. No truly communist country has ever existed and its only ever been attempted by pre-industrial developing nations as a means for authoritarian single-party dictatorships to force industrialization.  None of that is part of Marxist theory.

Could you offer some proof that church is growing in Communist countries.  Be specific.

PS As you insinuated, republicans are just theirs in different clothing.

Bingo!!~!!!

Socialism or any other of the "isms" have an element of central control, central authority. Ultimately as many have pointed out, leads to some sort of system failure.

Commonwealth on the other hand does not include centralized control.

Its the difference between command and control and dialogue.

This is a scriptoral specification as you are discerning.