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« on: October 03, 2005, 01:01:42 PM »
For the group's information, from the The Corner on National Review Online:

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“DEPLORABLE” [Rich Lowry ]
Just talked to a very pro-Bush legal type who says he is ashamed and embarrassed this morning. Says Miers was with an undistinguished law firm; never practiced constitutional law; never argued any big cases; never was on law review; has never written on any of the important legal issues. Says she's not even second rate, but is third rate. Dozens and dozens of women would have been better qualified. Says a crony at FEMA is one thing, but on the high court is something else entirely. Her long history of activity with ABA is not encouraging from a conservative perspective--few conservatives would spend their time that way. In short, he says the pick is “deplorable.” There may be an element of venting here, but thought I'd pass along for what it's worth. It's certainly indicative of the mood right now...

Another Souter? Kennedy? O'Connor?[/color]
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2005, 01:12:26 PM »
Yep.  Bush took the wussy way out.  Really.   :(
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2005, 01:25:05 PM »
Bob,
I know nothing about this woman, but from what I've read so far, she definitely doesn't appear to be a Scalia/Thomas type, which is very disappointing to me. We conservatives have our first chance (and perhaps our only chance) in years to overturn Roe v. Wade. And while I think Bush is a great guy, I this is really a wimpy way for him to handle this. He has claimed to be pro-life, as have all Republican presidents that I'm aware of, but they haven't done much to actually stop abortion. I'm more and more just thinking it is lip service to get the votes of people like me.

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2005, 02:24:23 PM »
I was hoping he would appoint John Ashcroft or the current Attorney General.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2005, 02:52:01 PM »
The reality is that no one, other than those that know her personally, knows what she thinks. We'll have to wait a few years and see.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 03:55:40 PM »
Bush picked her for the same reason he picked Roberts: he wanted someone who would not get Borked.
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2005, 05:17:43 PM »
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I know nothing about this woman, but from what I've read so far, she definitely doesn't appear to be a Scalia/Thomas type, which is very disappointing to me. We conservatives have our first chance (and perhaps our only chance) in years to overturn Roe v. Wade. And while I think Bush is a great guy, I this is really a wimpy way for him to handle this. He has claimed to be pro-life, as have all Republican presidents that I'm aware of, but they haven't done much to actually stop abortion. I'm more and more just thinking it is lip service to get the votes of people like me.
The Miers nomination is probably both surprising and not surprising to the social conservative wing of the Republicans, although I would think that both the Roberts and Miers appointments are quite acceptable to the business wing of the Party. Not only that, but both appointments are very consistent with a protect-Bush-first philosophy. These appointments may be not much more than a form of legal insurance now and after 2008.

One has to realize that the business wing has largely been running the Party since the progressive Republicans got formally read out of the Party after Teddy's third-party effort of 1912. Certainly there's little difference in philosophy between the Republicans of 1928 and those of 2005. And the business wing tends to be more pragmatic, politics-wise, than the social conservatives; for all practical purposes, the business wing of the Republcans is not significantly different in outlook than the business wing of the Democrats, namely the DLC. Truth be told, mainstream Democrats sseem to as frustrated with their business wing as the social conservative Republicans are with theirs.

Where that leaves the social conservatives is problematic. Obviously, they remains the real outsiders on the inner workings of the Republicans, useful for votes by threatening them with the "Democratic boogeyman," just not welcome at the front table. Creation of an American equivalent of the Israeli Likud is probably not viable. Bowing out of politics is would be equivalent of surrender in their own eyes. And a third party movement would just get triangulated by the two major parties.

I really don't want to sound smug (for once), but where does this leave you all for the future? Once again, it looks like the most important person for the future of the American legal system is Justice Stevens' physician.

Anyway, enjoying the discussion.
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2005, 05:19:06 PM »
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Yep.  Bush took the wussy way out.  Really.   :(
So, is it "wussy" to use the word "stupid" or "stupid" to use the word "wussy"?

(Weak attempt at humor.)
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2005, 05:41:55 PM »
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Bob,
I know nothing about this woman, but from what I've read so far, she definitely doesn't appear to be a Scalia/Thomas type, which is very disappointing to me. We conservatives have our first chance (and perhaps our only chance) in years to overturn Roe v. Wade. And while I think Bush is a great guy, I this is really a wimpy way for him to handle this. He has claimed to be pro-life, as have all Republican presidents that I'm aware of, but they haven't done much to actually stop abortion. I'm more and more just thinking it is lip service to get the votes of people like me.

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I've never heard of her, so I don't know her views on important issues like the president being in possession and control of hurricane generation and control technology, but Jay Sekulow says this about her and abortion . . .

http://www.aclj.org/media/audio/Jay_100305_Clip.mp3
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2005, 05:59:54 PM »
Oooooo...they're not gonna like that.
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2005, 06:00:13 PM »
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Bob,
I know nothing about this woman, but from what I've read so far, she definitely doesn't appear to be a Scalia/Thomas type, which is very disappointing to me. We conservatives have our first chance (and perhaps our only chance) in years to overturn Roe v. Wade. And while I think Bush is a great guy, I this is really a wimpy way for him to handle this. He has claimed to be pro-life, as have all Republican presidents that I'm aware of, but they haven't done much to actually stop abortion. I'm more and more just thinking it is lip service to get the votes of people like me.

IHS,
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Barry,

I've never heard of her, so I don't know her views on important issues like the president being in possession and control of hurricane generation and control technology, but Jay Sekulow says this about her and abortion . . .

http://www.aclj.org/media/audio/Jay_100305_Clip.mp3[/color]
My understanding was, and I can't find the blog where I saw it, that she was not so much opposed to the ABA taking a stand on the matter of choice but that the matter wasn't put to the ABA membership as a whole for a vote.

(as far as ABA membership is concerned, it's a bit overrated to me.  Rather expensive for my budget.)
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2005, 06:15:19 PM »
I received an e-mail earlier stating that she is a member of the Christian Church (independent). I don't know how accurate that is.

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2005, 06:17:43 PM »
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I received an e-mail earlier stating that she is a member of the Christian Church (independent). I don't know how accurate that is.

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See if you can find out the source.  The independent Christian Church is very conservative - that would tell me a lot about her (seeing as how I am a member of that movement).
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2005, 06:24:20 PM »
She's a member of the Valley View Christian Church in Dallas.

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2005, 07:05:31 PM »
Didn't Bush say this morning that she was the former Texas Lottery Commissioner?  

Hmmm. . . . now what was that thread up in the Theology section talking about. . . :p
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