Ok, this was absolutely NOT a referendum.  No Way.  No How.

Completely impossible.

It is only a referendum if liberals win.  When they lose, there are a myriad of other reasons.

In Christ,
KP

Chestnutbrowncanary asked if one must be a conservative Christian to be a Republican. I would say no. The GOP fell on hard times because they abandoned conservative fiscal policy (led by George W and the Rinos, not over social issues.

If being a
Christian was the only pre-requisite to being a Republican, most Hispanics would be Republicans. As a group, they are one of the most socially conservative groups demographically in the country.

That worked for Obama!  Only it took the media eight years of scaring Americans and making us feel really bad about everything to work.

Oh wait, the media works for liberals...

Got any other ideas?

In Christ,
KP

Logismo, you might have a point IF the big government policies could possibly work, which most Americans don't believe will work. A lot HOPE it will work, but the national fiscal situation is not all that different than each of our own family's situation we mull over and know what works and what doesn't.We know what unsustainable spending and debt look like on a smaller intimate level. Our nation's level of spending and entitlement obligation (fostered by both parties recently) cannot be sustained. Our generation is screwed and probably our kids. We need to try not to bankrupt our grandkids and great grandkids. If a Democrat exhibits fiscal responsibility, great, re-elect 'em, and if a Republican doesn't, get 'em out. It's really that simple, I believe, in the majority of American's minds.

Here's your problem: to the 11 county GOP chairmen in NY-23 who nominated Dierdre Scozzafava, they didn't see her as a "faux republican" anymore than they saw the predecessor, John McHugh, as a "faux republican."

Because they're not. They just happen not to share your ideological rigidity.  If you're going to call Scozzafava a "faux republican", then you're calling all the committee chairmen "faux republicans," and you're calling John McHugh a "faux republican."

To which the GOP party leadership in NY-23 will tell you where to go.  Who are you to tell them what kind of Republican they're supposed to be? There's been a GOP in that part of NY when there were still slaves in the South, and you're going to call them "faux republicans" and "poseurs." That's trash talk for losers.

How about you just go up there and tell them yourself, dude?  They'll tell you what to do with that that's unprintable on a family website.

Which, of course, is your problem and the problem of people who think like you. They're going to continue to be Republicans, and, odds are, they'll nominate someone like like themselves.  They're going to be Republicans to their satisfaction, and they're really couldn't care less what you think, one way or the other.  Owens will either be replaced by a Republican you don't like or he'll win reelection.

And you're not going to be able to do anything about that. And you, and others like you, will get mad - like all schismatics, secular or sectarian, do - and leave the party and blame them for leaving you.  And we'll all know what that means, but they'll continue to be north country Republicans, and you'll continue to be schismatics.

And losers.

I asked no such thing.

Chestnut, I apologize. I think it was Logismo that asked the question about having to be a conservative Christian in order to be a Republican. I have a hard tume tracking who said what on my blackberry because the thread doesn't display like it does on my PC.

**edited typos**

There was nothing moderate about the R candidate in NY.  That is why the independent almost stole the election.