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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2009, 08:31:30 PM »

There was nothing moderate about the R candidate in NY.  That is why the independent almost stole the election.
The Republican candidate in NY-23 was Republican. And the "independent" didn't steal anything when half the the Republicans there voted for the moderate Democrat instead of the ideological "independent" in a district where Republicans have a 45,000-vote registration edge.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2009, 08:36:40 PM »

I say, you must have conservative values to be a follower of Jesus Christ. Nothing to do with political parties, except you cannot support radical left views, and say you follow Christ, I did not say you cannot be a believer, in the God-man, but, his disciple nope..
The Sadducees were considered conservative, and the Pharisees were considered ideological; neither were followers of Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2009, 09:32:34 PM »

I always thought both were conservative idealogues of the day. Sadducees just didn't believe in a resurrection......As if either had anything to do with this discussion.
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2009, 02:32:51 AM »

I always thought both were conservative idealogues of the day. Sadducees just didn't believe in a resurrection......As if either had anything to do with this discussion.
"lightshineon" mentioned it; thought it needed context.
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2009, 07:16:10 AM »

My point was that neither the D nor the R were moderate.  They were both liberals.  That is why the conservative entered the race and as I said almost stle the election.  It is very difficult for any third party candidate to win and he came within 6000 votes. 

However, it was a win for the democrats. Not nearly as lage as the NJ and VA was for the R.

The public option will go down in flames.
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2009, 08:11:17 AM »

Which would be better (or less worse) for the Dems?

A. The Dems getting skittish and pulling the public option in defeat.

or

B. The Dems slogging forward with the public option and getting it voted down on the floor.

Either one would be fine with me!
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2009, 08:44:45 AM »

My point was that neither the D nor the R were moderate.  They were both liberals.  That is why the conservative entered the race and as I said almost stle the election.  It is very difficult for any third party candidate to win and he came within 6000 votes. 

However, it was a win for the democrats. Not nearly as lage as the NJ and VA was for the R.

The public option will go down in flames.

A small win as it is only a post for 13 months.  Just enough time to start campaigning.
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2009, 09:12:13 AM »

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, not exactly a poster child for the Right Wing, called on voters to support the Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman over Dierdre Scozzafava.

I heard his explanation on a radio interview the other night, and it was pretty interesting.

As a moderate, he believed in the Big Tent concept, and was willing to overlook a few issues, such as abortion rights and gay marriage advocacy, if supporting Scozzafava would have lead to party unity.

However, he said he could find nearly nothing in her philosophy or actions that could be called "Republican", even by his "standards."  And for that reason, he declared that supporting her would in no way stop House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's agenda in Washington.

[How liberal must you be if Rudy calls you a RINO?] I don't know, what do you think?

The interesting thing is that her dropping out may have been the kiss of death for the conservatives' effort.

For those who are not familiar with the history of the  New York Conservative Party, they have not just been "spoilers"...

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[Hoffman's efforts]...lets the mind drift back to the 1970 Senate race in New York.

 The Republican incumbent that year, Charles Goodell, was a moderate-to-conservative congressman from the western part of upstate until he was appointed by Gov. Nelson Rockefeller to succeed Robert Kennedy, who was assassinated while campaigning for president. Not long after his Senate appointment, Goodell shifted drastically to the left, especially on the Vietnam War, on which he became a leading opponent.

Democrats nominated Rep. Dick Ottinger, a Westchester County liberal. Frustrated conservatives saw to it that Jim Buckley, brother of National Review's William F., became the nominee of the Conservative Party. With Republicans split, Ottinger was favored to win.

But with the tacit backing of the Nixon administration, and especially that of Vice President Agnew -- who called Goodell the "Christine Jorgensen of the Republican Party" -- Buckley took advantage of what became a liberal split and won the race in a shocker.
(It was probably the Nixon-Agnew intent to keep attacking Goodell in order to give him credibility among liberals.)
http://forums.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=101810&page=6

I haven't lived in NYS since around that time, but it seems that the majority of the state is still split between upstate "Rockefeller Republicans" and the liberal Dems nested around NYC.

Not a place for a conservative to go one-on-one against a liberal... Frowning





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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2009, 04:00:01 PM »


The public option will go down in flames.

I agree.  Harry Reid must be in a tizzy about now.  He is running for reelection and is already in trouble in Nevada.  I think this is his last year in the Senate.

They are running scared after the election Tues.  They should be.  I have a perfect bumper sticker for those in close districts  Rolling on floor laughing  It gets the point across very well but is not mean.

I have to check out if anyone has thought of it yet.  Maybe able to make  some money off this whole thing  Tipping hat
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