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« on: August 31, 2007, 06:56:48 AM »

Fox graphics falsely asserted Castro "wants" Clinton-Obama as "dream team"

Summary: During a Fox & Friends segment discussing an August 28 column by Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, on-screen text falsely asserted, "CASTRO'S DREAM TEAM: WANTS CLINTON AND OBAMA IN '08," referring to Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Also during the segment, an on-screen graphic depicted Castro, Clinton, and Obama enclosed in a red heart. In fact, at no point in his column did Castro endorse Clinton or Obama. Indeed, he attributed to Clinton and Obama a pro-democratic view that he called an "error," and he said of Clinton and Obama, "They are not making politics: they are playing a game of cards on a Sunday afternoon."

During the August 29 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, during a segment discussing an August 28 column by Cuban dictator Fidel Castro in the Cuban newspaper Granma, on-screen text falsely asserted, "CASTRO'S DREAM TEAM: WANTS CLINTON AND OBAMA IN '08," referring to Democratic presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) and Barack Obama (IL). Also during the segment, an on-screen graphic depicted Castro, Clinton, and Obama enclosed in a red heart. In addition, during the August 28 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, guest host Michelle Malkin previewed an upcoming segment by falsely claiming that "Fidel Castro, of all people, endorses a Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama presidential ticket." Malkin went on to ask, "What is that all about?" In fact, at no point in his column did Castro endorse Clinton or Obama. Indeed, he attributed to Clinton and Obama a pro-democratic view that he called an "error," and he said of Clinton and Obama, "They are not making politics: they are playing a game of cards on a Sunday afternoon."

From Castro's column:

Today, talk is about the seemingly invincible ticket that might be created with Hillary for President and Obama for Vice President. Both of them feel the sacred duty of demanding "a democratic government in Cuba". They are not making politics: they are playing a game of cards on a Sunday afternoon.

The media declares that this would be essential, unless Gore decides to run. I don't think he will do so; better than anyone, he knows about the kind of catastrophe that awaits humanity if it continues along its current course. When he was a candidate, he of course committed the error of yearning for "a democratic Cuba".

Enough of tales and nostalgia. This is written simply to increase the conscience of the Cuban people.

In an August 21 column in The Miami Herald, Obama stated that "[a] democratic opening in Cuba is, and should be, the foremost objective of our policy," and that "f a post-Fidel government begins opening Cuba to democratic change, the United States (the president working with Congress) is prepared to take steps to normalize relations and ease the embargo that has governed relations between our countries for the last five decades." He added: "Cuban-American connections to family in Cuba are not only a basic right in humanitarian terms, but also our best tool for helping to foster the beginnings of grass-roots democracy on the island. Accordingly, I will grant Cuban Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send remittances to the island." Further, the Herald reported in an August 22 article that "Clinton's campaign said she agrees with Obama that exiles should be able to freely send money to their relatives in Cuba but said she does not favor 'any wholesale, broad changes' to the travel restrictions until Fidel Castro falls." The Herald added that according to Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee, Clinton " 'supports the embargo and our current policy toward Cuba, and until it is clear what type of political winds may come with a new government -- if there is a new government -- we cannot talk about changes to U.S. policy.' "

From the August 29 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): Fidel Castro, a dictator.

STEVE DOOCY (co-host): Sure.

KILMEADE: Hasn't lost an election in a long time.

DOOCY: Sure.

KILMEADE: And now he's holding on to life. But before he does that, he's a student of our electoral process, and he thinks he knows who the unbeatable, impenetrable team is.

DOOCY: Impenetrable?

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): I'm surprised he did not only just pick Obama, because it was Obama, recently, who said that, yeah, he would start up any conversation with any dictators around the world, while Hillary Clinton, during that debate, said, "Hmm? Not so fast, I might have to do a little more research before I would do that."

DOOCY: Yeah, and of course anybody running for president of course needs to win Florida. And to win Florida and the very influential, powerful Cuban exile community, you gotta say stuff like, "Well, there should be democracy in Cuba." Anyway, Castro said, quote, "Today, talk is about the seemingly invincible ticket that might be created with Hillary for president and Obama for vice president. Both of them feel the sacred duty of demanding a democratic government in Cuba." All right. Also, let's tell you a little about this, kids.

From the August 28 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

MALKIN: And Fidel Castro, of all people, endorses a Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama presidential ticket. What is that all about? We hope you stay tuned for those reports.

[...]

MALKIN: Very quickly, Laura [Schwartz, Democratic strategist].

SCHWARTZ: Minimum wage, raising it. Energy legislation --

[crosstalk]

SCHWARTZ: I wouldn't discount the working class in this country, Karen [Hanretty, Republican strategist]. That's the problem with the Republican Party today. I know that's another situation, but they've ignored the working class, and that's -

[crosstalk]

SCHWARTZ: Hey, what about those working poor, those families in the inner city that can't even make enough to live -

[crosstalk]

MALKIN: Well, Fidel Castro agrees with you, and he's endorsed the Hillary-Obama ticket, so there you go. Ladies, thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 07:15:02 AM »

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Every liberal and conservative knows Michelle Malkin is a Opinion/Editorial commentator.  She writes columns and appears on shows.  SHE made the comment, and the graphics guys were summarizing what she said.  This happens on every news channel no matter who is speaking.  Fox was NOT reporting that Castro endorsed any ticket.  An OP/ED writer made her opinion known and the graphics guys summarized what she said.

Your hatred of conservatives is quite evident, but please do not resort to lies to bash those you disagree with.

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 08:20:17 AM »

I dare say that YOU, sir, are the liar.

Every liberal and conservative knows Michelle Malkin is a Opinion/Editorial commentator.  She writes columns and appears on shows.  SHE made the comment, and the graphics guys were summarizing what she said.  This happens on every news channel no matter who is speaking.  Fox was NOT reporting that Castro endorsed any ticket.  An OP/ED writer made her opinion known and the graphics guys summarized what she said.

Your hatred of conservatives is quite evident, but please do not resort to lies to bash those you disagree with.

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So, pointing out an alleged liar (Malkin) is itself a lie?  And Malkin is no conservative. A Republican, yes, but not a conservative.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2007, 08:54:32 AM »

Am I the only one who thinks it is terribly inappropriate for one poster to call another a 'liar' on a Christian discussion board?
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2007, 09:06:20 AM »

What communist dictator Fidel Castro wrote, when translated into English was that a Hillary/Obama ticket would be an "invincible" ticket.

It depends on how he meant that as to whether or not it's an endorsement. But a communist dictator endorsing a socialist Democrat is certainly not a stretch. Just like when Osama/Al Qaeda told the U.S. that we'd better elect John Kerry or the "Bush states" would be punished, our enemies seem to prefer candidates from the Democrat party.

The Islamist website Al-Qal'a explained what [Bin Laden's] sentence meant: "This message was a warning to every U.S. state separately. When he [Osama Bin Laden] said, 'Every state will be determining its own security, and will be responsible for its choice,' it means that any U.S. state that will choose to vote for the white thug Bush as president has chosen to fight us, and we will consider it our enemy, and any state that will vote against Bush has chosen to make peace with us, and we will not characterize it as an enemy.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2007, 09:13:53 AM »

I saw the segment that Jim Abb was referring to and thought while watching it that they were taking it out of context.   You have to be careful with any news cast and evaluate the information they are trying to feed you.  This is especially true for the networks and CNN, but it is true to a lesser extent on Fox as well.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2007, 09:34:01 AM »

Who would want a demoncrat in office anyway?
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 07:24:06 AM »

Regarding being called a "liar". The topic of my post was "More Conservative Media Lies" and the comment by Malkin that Castro endorsed Clinton/Obama, as you can see from reading the text, is not what he said. That makes Malkin's statement a lie.

****edited for violation of rule 2.6 publically questioning the decision or integrity of a moderator.****

Also, I do not "hate" conservatives. What I "hate" are the lies that come from many conservative sources for the purpose of character assasination. I have a great deal of respect for conservatives like columnist George Will who argue issues. I may disagree with him, but I always read what he writes because I know that it will be well thought and supported.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 08:06:35 AM »

The important word to connect with LIAR is not "conservative," but the word MEDIA.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 07:21:42 AM »

TV news outlets focused on Clinton fundraiser Hsu but ignored Romney finance co-chair Fabian's indictment for fraud

Summary: In recent days, NBC, CNN, and Fox News have all aired reports or discussed the case of Norman Hsu, who The Wall Street Journal suggested may have funneled illegal campaign contributions to Sen. Hillary Clinton. However, when Mitt Romney's national finance committee co-chairman Alan Fabian was charged with mail fraud, money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, perjury and obstruction of justice, the three networks did not report or discuss it during programs available in the Nexis database.

Between August 28 and August 31, NBC, CNN, and Fox News all aired reports or discussions on Norman Hsu, the Democratic donor known for being a top contributor and fundraiser to the campaigns of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY). The Los Angeles Times reported on August 29 that, in 1991, Hsu "pleaded no contest to grand theft, agreed to serve up to three years in prison and then seemed to vanish. 'He is a fugitive,' Ronald Smetana, who handled the case for the state attorney general, said in an interview." The previous day, The Wall Street Journal had suggested that Hsu may have funneled illegal campaign contributions to Clinton by reimbursing people for contributions made to Clinton under their names. However, there is no evidence that any candidate or committee who received money from Hsu knew anything about the controversies surrounding him, and many campaigns that received money from Hsu -- including Clinton's -- have since said they will donate it to charity. On August 31, Hsu turned himself in to authorities in California. The August 29 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, for example, teased the story with a picture of Clinton with the caption: "Fugitive Link."



By contrast, when Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's national finance committee co-chairman, Alan B. Fabian was, according to an August 9 Associated Press article, "charged in a 23-count indictment unsealed Thursday [August 9] with mail fraud, money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, perjury and obstruction of justice," NBC, CNN, and Fox News did not air reports or discussions about it during programs available in the Nexis database. The AP reported that Fabian "allegedly ran a scheme to make $32 million in false purchases of computer equipment, spending the money instead on beach real estate and private jet travel." Fabian resigned from Romney's finance committee shortly after being indicted, and the Romney campaign said it would return Fabian's $2,300 contribution, but not, however, "contributions from donors who were recruited by or have ties to Fabian," as The Boston Globe reported. While Fabian's indictment has generated some print coverage, it has resulted in no television coverage on news shows airing on NBC, CNN, or prime-time shows broadcast on Fox News, according to a Nexis database search conducted by Media Matters for America on August 31.

Fabian, a former Bush Pioneer, has also made donations to other Republican candidates and committees, including to Rudy Giuliani, according to the Federal Election Commission's searchable donor database. Giuliani's campaign said it would return Fabian's contribution. At least one other campaign did not immediately return the money. The Hill reported on August 15: "'We have no intention of returning the contribution,' said Matt Leffingwell, spokesman for [Rep. Jon] Porter [R-NV], who received nearly $1,500 from Fabian in 2004. 'Until the individual is convicted in a court of law, we don't return contributions.' " Fabian's arraignment is scheduled for Sept. 28.

According to Media Matters' review, the following shows included reports on or discussions about Hsu, but none reported or discussed Fabian:

CNN Newsroom, August 31
CNN's American Morning, August 31
CNN's The Situation Room, August 30
NBC's Nightly News with Brian Williams, August 30
CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, August 30
Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, August 30
NBC's Today, August 30
American Morning, August 30
Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, August 29
Special Report, August 29
Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson, August 29
The Situation Room, August 29
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 11:12:32 AM »

Any political system will work (communism, socialism, democracy, empire dictatorship) as long as there are good leaders who put the people needs first.

The problem is that the leaders are not good and the people needs take a back seat to personal power and glory.

I vote republican because their agenda takes into consideration people like me.  The demon-crates have nothing to offer people like me.

I am not a minority
I am not a homosexual
I am against abortion
I believe in the freedom of religion
I believe in the right to keep and bear arms
I understand that diplomacy prevents war it doesn't win war.

The demon-crates have nothing to offer so why vote for them?
Behind all the "smoke and mirrors," the Republican policies are designed to represent the best interests of the top 5 to 10% of America's wealthiest citizens.

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The top 5% of Americans own just under 70% of all financial wealth.

The top 1% of Americans now claim more income per year than the bottom 100 million Americans taken together.

The top 0.5% makes more on the sale of stocks and bonds in one year than everyone else combined.

The distribution of wealth ownership in America is truly feudal--and deeply corrosive of our democracy...........[/b]
Republican positions on minority rights, gays, abortion, religious freedom, right to bear arms and foreign policy are all designed to appeal to the other 90 to 95%. 

Despite a Republican president, Congress and conservativeSupreme Court from 2000 to 2006, how much progress was made in these areas.

MONEY = POWER 

True democracy and freedom can't exist when 5% of the population own 70% the nation's financial wealth.

Those who virtually own the nation are never going to be content to follow a "hands-off" approach when it comes to who and how the nation is governed.

Wealthy individuals and coorporations have established "private" institutes and "think tanks" to provide the conservatice right with its own pseudo science. 

These institutes have also set up their own network of media outlets that attempt to disseminate "tabloid" attacks against the Left as fact through  the mainstream media.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 11:10:12 PM »

But you get all your info from Media Matters.  Their goal is to create conservative media bias because they know it doesn't exist.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 11:26:08 PM »

But you get all your info from Media Matters.  Their goal is to create conservative media bias because they know it doesn't exist.

Well, you know it's conservative media bias when they call the president "Bush" instead of "Beelzebush".  It's a dead give away.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2007, 11:33:32 PM »

But you get all your info from Media Matters.  Their goal is to create conservative media bias because they know it doesn't exist.

Well, you know it's conservative media bias when they call the president "Bush" instead of "Beelzebush".  It's a dead give away.

The conservative media never mentions the Risian Hurricane Generator either.  Go figure.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 12:28:13 AM »

But you get all your info from Media Matters.  Their goal is to create conservative media bias because they know it doesn't exist.

Well, you know it's conservative media bias when they call the president "Bush" instead of "Beelzebush".  It's a dead give away.

The conservative media never mentions the Risian Hurricane Generator either.  Go figure.

And there you have it, sports fans.  Absolute and undeniable proof that the MSM is actually packed to the gills with drooling henchmen who await their talking points from the very bowels, bowels I say(!), of Beelzebush's Whitehouse that has been turned into a fetid den of vile iniquity.
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They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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