Author Topic: High tax rate damages UK, say economists (Read 1211 times)

tennman · « **on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 09:02:49 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14810323

UK economists state that the tax rate makes the UK "less competitive internationally, and is making us less attractive as a destination for both foreign investment and talented workers".

It does and is doing the same thing over here. I wish Obama would admit that as Bill Clinton did. But Obama refuses to even humor the idea. He'll bow to his socialistic philosophy no matter what it does to our economy.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 09:02:49 »

crowcamp · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 10:02:55 »

Quote from: tennman on Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 09:02:49

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14810323

UK economists state that the tax rate makes the UK "less competitive internationally, and is making us less attractive as a destination for both foreign investment and talented workers".

It has does and is doing the same thing over here. I wish Obama would admit that as Bill Clinton did. But Obama refuses to even humor the idea. He'll bow to his socialistic philosophy no matter what it does to our economy.

Thought you were following a different path, tennman, until I see this post is just like all the others. Obama, Obama, Obama.

Consider golf, fishing, mall walking, contemplating the lint in your bellybutton. Anything to break the spell Barry has on you!

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 10:02:55 »

tennman · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 10:28:04 »

Why would I talk about economists saying that corporate taxes should be lowered without mentioning the man who has the power to lower them but says he won't?

Again, Crowcamp, this is a discussion forum. Perhaps you should participate in the discussion instead of derailing the topic and mocking me.

crowcamp · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 10:47:01 »

Quote from: tennman on Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 10:28:04

Why would I talk about economists saying that corporate taxes should be lowered without mentioning the man who has the power to lower them but says he won't?

Again, Crowcamp, this is a discussion forum. Perhaps you should participate in the discussion instead of derailing the topic and mocking me.

Why?

1- Because you come across as an intelligent person who has much more to offer than a fixation on one man.

2- Because that one man does not have the power to do anything on his own.

3- Because it you combine your suspected intelligence with the facts on the ground (the power of the presidency is limited- even for Barry), you might contribute to the movement of any discussion in a positive direction.

4- Because no matter how much you rail against Barry in this forum reality is that 99.9% of those reading this forum would never vote for BO! Basically, you're using up all your energy stomping grapes in the wrong vat.

5- Because I try my best to get others to expand their thought processes lest they be trapped in idealogic, never changes a thing, clap trap.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 10:47:01 »

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tennman · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 11:22:40 »

Crowcamp,

You're right, most of the people who visit this forum won't be voting for Obama. But they have contact with people who might. I'm doing some good if I keep those informed who are already against Obama's destructive policies. They're much more likely to talk about his latest assault on our country than people who call themselves Democrats and use their mental energy to dream up excuses for him. My strategy is to inform those who are passionate about kicking him out of office because they are more likely to spread the message and that way I'm arming them for debate with their liberal friends.

Now can we please get back to the actual topic?

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 11:22:40 »

crowcamp · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 13:07:02 »

Quote from: tennman on Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 11:22:40

Crowcamp,

You're right, most of the people who visit this forum won't be voting for Obama. But they have contact with people who might. I'm doing some good if I keep those informed who are already against Obama's destructive policies. They're much more likely to talk about his latest assault on our country than people who call themselves Democrats and use their mental energy to dream up excuses for him. My strategy is to inform those who are passionate about kicking him out of office because they are more likely to spread the message and that way I'm arming them for debate with their liberal friends.

Now can we please get back to the actual topic?

Tennman, you don't have to inform those that are passionate about kicking him out of office. That's what I'm sayin'.

As for the topic, yes, let's get to that. America is not competitive, but Barry alone can do nothing about it. In fact, public opinion is so against him, it's time for our reps to just ignore and go around. IMO, our focus needs to be on congress. Pre August vacation, they had done nothing to improve the situation in this country- on anything. There is the opportunity for some good ol' give and take that could do some real good- including tax policy to make us more competitive in the global economy. But it does take that give and take. No one can simply demand their way or the highway, and the inflexible expressions of a particular idealogy, knowing those expressions will never become policy, is a complete waste of everyone's time. We need our reps to be smart and productive, not rigid and useless.

tennman · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed Sep 07, 2011 - 16:54:34 »

Crowcamp, I'll say it again, I want to inform those who are passionate about kicking him out of office so that they have more amunition when they are debating their liberal friends and because they are more likely to tell others through email forwards, Facebook, etc. I do marketing for a living and I can tell you that that's how it works. Why do you think Obama makes speeches to supporters about how wonderful he is and how eeeeeevil the Republicans are? Because they are the ones who are most likely to spread the message he wants them to.

And of course, we need representatives to be smart and productive instead of regid and useless. But doing things for the sake of doing things is not the answer. Sometimes rejecting a proposal (like should have been done with the Obamacare nightmare) is what needs to be done.

In the case of lowering the corporate tax rate, the vast majority of Republicans want to do that but the vast majority of Democrats do not. So Republicans would need Obama to get the Senate to write and go along with such a bill. But you and I both know that Obama has bipassed Congress several times to do what he's wanted to do so he could lower corporate tax rates by executive order if he wanted. After all, his first act as President, after months of claiming he'd be the most open President ever, was to make an executive order to seal and lock his college and professional records. So he could do it one of two ways if he wanted. But he doesn't. That's the point.

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