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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #175 on: Fri Jun 03, 2011 - 19:48:44 »
Politics for a Christian is in the Middle East today. Where false prophets will tell you Moses is the savior when he was nothing more than a murder who murders a man in cold blood. The Pharaoh charges Moses for this crime and Moses then gathers his followers and flees. That episode is now referred to as  the great Exodus.

Are you re-writing the Exodus? Moses wasn't fleeing Pharaoh. Get your story straight.

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Then Moses joins with David and attacks an unarmed city called Jerusalem and slaughters many within. They stay and rule by force over the city until the Romans kick them out. Today it is a repeat only it will not be the Romans who kick them out it will be.,,..,/:\.,.,

It is all there in the scriptures, I hope you check it out.

Yeah, right. Moses and Davy were pals.

Who wrote your Bible? Even a Braille bible refutes you.


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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #176 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 08:44:44 »
we should approach politics with God on our heart.  Will the canadit running honor the ways of our God.  Will he/she try to dictate or be a person who values the constitution and our freedoms.

The only canadits that fit this criteria is the Libertarian party.  If you vote Democrat or republican you are voting for the government to tell you how to run your life, and the worlds.

Our founding fathers wanted a very small government, to create laws that protect, and armed forces that protect...it has gone passed this simple formula, now we have troops all over the world, and the government taking my money, and telling me they know how to spend it better than I do... ::frustrated::

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #177 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 08:48:19 »
If you vote Libertarian, you are effectively voting for the Democrat party, unintentionally. I hate it, but it's the truth. Just like any Green Party vote is an inadvertant Republican vote. I pray for much success for Ralph Nader!

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« Reply #178 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 10:06:05 »

How should Christians approach politics? I just can't contain myself; by believing they're all crooks, and that the truth is not in them?

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #179 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 10:08:12 »
No candidate is perfect, but there is a scale of gooder to worser. As in any human endeavor, we make a choice. I didn't marry a perfect woman, but I got as close as humanly possible, recognizing her remaining flaws.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #180 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 10:11:49 »
If you vote Libertarian, you are effectively voting for the Democrat party, unintentionally. I hate it, but it's the truth. Just like any Green Party vote is an inadvertant Republican vote. I pray for much success for Ralph Nader!

The blame is not on the voter. It is on the majority party to put up a candidate worth voting for. That is not to demand perfection but it is to demand a reasonable candidate. Vote for the best candidate from your conscience.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #181 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 11:20:45 »
If you vote Libertarian, you are effectively voting for the Democrat party, unintentionally. I hate it, but it's the truth. Just like any Green Party vote is an inadvertant Republican vote. I pray for much success for Ralph Nader!

The blame is not on the voter. It is on the majority party to put up a candidate worth voting for. That is not to demand perfection but it is to demand a reasonable candidate. Vote for the best candidate from your conscience.

I would add to vote for the candidate from your conscience with recognition of what that vote might do apart from one's intentions. If a good vote of conscience for a third party candidate that might garner 5% of the more conservative voters that might vote against the Obama type candidate (the worst of the worst), then that consequence must be considered. All votes impact more than just who we vote FOR.

As always, it is a case of the least worst must get the most votes, or the most worst will be elected. The perfect candidate has never run.
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« Reply #182 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 19:05:46 »
Voting based soley on conscience is not looking for the perfect candidate. Voting for the least worst has gotten us no where. History proves your theory is not working. Everyone needs to vote for conscience rather than the least evil. And that vote must start with us.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #183 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 19:10:11 »
No we must defeat Obama or facilitate his re-election. That is my conscience. Yes by all means vote your absolute conscience in the primary and vote to win the general election. That is IF you are against another Obama term.

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« Reply #184 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 00:54:57 »
No candidate is perfect, but there is a scale of gooder to worser. As in any human endeavor, we make a choice. I didn't marry a perfect woman, but I got as close as humanly possible, recognizing her remaining flaws.

ROFLMBO!  I love it!

On one side we have the "gooder" canididate, and on the other side we have the "worser" candidate.  Either way, we are pretty much screwed....but the gooder one is more betterer!
 ::laughinghisterically::




(PS..the last sentence, does your better half recognize your remaining flaws or have you gotten them all ironed out?  Would this make you gooder than you were before? (snicker...giggle)


Thanks Jaime, I got so tickled reading that and now I'm gonna have trouble going to sleep from laughing, lol.

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« Reply #185 on: Mon Jun 20, 2011 - 10:21:48 »
Christians living in Democracies must understand that you can be held accountable for the anti-Christian laws you agree to live under.

You must be actively, re-actively and proactively resisting ungodliness in your Democracies when Jesus Christ returns or otherwise you can be held accountable for capitulating with anti-Christian governments.

Perhaps we all need to be reminded that Christian Government is an Empire where Jesus Christ is KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS.

Christian Government is not Democratic or Capitalistic.

You should be actively attempting to change your Constitutions to the New Covenant Laws of Jesus Christ or you can be held accountable for capitulating with a Satanic form of government.

Perhaps we all need to be reminded that King Nebuchadnezzar's Statue still stands.

What are you doing to tear down that statue? Nothing? Well, you'll have to explain it to Jesus when that time comes...

Read Rev 12 and you will see how Satan is Defeated.

The Apostasy is the great rebellion against the evil and Satanic World System we live under. 

We are still living under a divided and pagan Roman Empire.

The proof is that the Empire of GOD has not yet come.  ::tippinghat::


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« Reply #186 on: Mon Jun 20, 2011 - 11:20:23 »

Christians living in Democracies must understand that you can be held accountable for the anti-Christian laws you agree to live under.


Oh brother, then Jesus must be in trouble with our Father. Though He did not live in a democracy, He paid taxes to Caesar and a government which supported everything unholy. If you pay taxes today, you also in effect support an ungodly democracy.

My thoughts.


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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #187 on: Wed Sep 14, 2011 - 10:54:42 »

"It will never be better unless we make it better. Ignoring a flawed process will make it more flawed. Change comes from involvement, not boycott."


I couldn't agree more.  If we want God-fearing representatives in our government again, we have to get involved in some way.  Doing nothing is why America is falling from God's grace.  ::smile::
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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #188 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 12:40:37 »
Could I just say on the last point,....... America has never been in "God's Grace",......... all earthly Kingdoms are in the hands of the Devil,....... we have to understand that ,...... but , we can by our vote influence affairs to the benefit of the poor and oppressed,....... those that are foremost in God's heart,......... as long as we remember the old saying,...... " when you sup with the Devil use a long spoon"!!.

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« Reply #189 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 13:24:01 »

"It will never be better unless we make it better. Ignoring a flawed process will make it more flawed. Change comes from involvement, not boycott."


I couldn't agree more.  If we want God-fearing representatives in our government again, we have to get involved in some way.  Doing nothing is why America is falling from God's grace.  ::smile::


I only read in one place of scripture of falling from God's grace, and that is Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." I wonder if we could add "Whosoever of you are justified by voting," as being fallen from grace?

Yeah, I voted for Bush, and there's no more abortion, prayer is in the schools again, and all is right in the world; in fact as I try to recall what it was he was gong to do, I don't know why I voted for him.
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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #190 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 13:29:34 »
Until we go to heaven, we are a citizen of this world we live in.  We have obligations to pray for our leaders, our government and to vote according to our beliefs and our consciousness.  America has fallen from God's grace because we have fallen away from Him as well as taking His Name from anything public.  A nation can fall from God's grace as well as an individual.  Not voting, not praying or getting involved with the election of our officials is the same thing as not working for God.  The right to vote is a privilege given to Americans through the shed blood of our forefathers.  Not being involved in the process is taking that same blood and ignoring it.


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« Reply #191 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 14:07:18 »

Until we go to heaven, we are a citizen of this world we live in. We have obligations to pray for our leaders, our government and to vote according to our beliefs and our consciousness. America has fallen from God's grace because we have fallen away from Him as well as taking His Name from anything public. A nation can fall from God's grace as well as an individual. Not voting, not praying or getting involved with the election of our officials is the same thing as not working for God.  The right to vote is a privilege given to Americans through the shed blood of our forefathers. Not being involved in the process is taking that same blood and ignoring it.


America's privilege of voting negates the following way of doing God's will? 2 Chronicles 7:14  If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

What you suggest is that because I pray for those spiritually starving of the world I should participate with them in their folly? Romans 13:5 says we are to be subject to them God puts over us "Not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake," but I do not see even the suggestion of voting for them. Wouldn't that be akin to wishing them "Godspeed?" 2 John 1:11. "For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
 ::bracingmyself::

Now you've got me on Jaime's bad side again, and he'll probably have to come and make a counter to this. Though he isn't posting for the time being, I see him peeking in; oh the humanity.
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« Reply #192 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 18:27:48 »
If you really believe that voting in this country's elections is wrong, then you definitely should not vote. 

I would like for you to show me where it is evil to vote and that by voting we are adding to the folly of evil doers? 

Are you without sin?   

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« Reply #193 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 19:17:47 »

If you really believe that voting in this country's elections is wrong, then you definitely should not vote. 

I would like for you to show me where it is evil to vote and that by voting we are adding to the folly of evil doers? 

Are you without sin? 

  

Romans 8:1. "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus," and I do not think it is a sin to vote. I do think if I believed they were not going to do what they say they will, I would be wrong in voting for them and presently I do not see any I would vote for. Who do you think is the God graced candidate?

1 John 5:18. "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not . ." 

Now this is our new nature in Christ that God sees us this way, but I do have a question. When was Romans 13:1 or Daniel 4:17 rescinded?

Romans 13:1. "There is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." Dose this pertain to only those that have not got the right to vote?

Daniel 4:17  "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men." Some think our present president is the basest of men; did you put him into office and if you did, would God be displeased with you?

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« Reply #194 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 19:28:12 »
You are a sinner yet saved just like me.  You are not without sin as long as you live and breathe on this earth.  I do not judge the heart of any man but I vote for whomever I feel has or seems to have the most morals.  If you are waiting to vote for a sinless person, you will never vote again.

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« Reply #195 on: Thu Sep 22, 2011 - 19:47:09 »

You are a sinner yet saved just like me.  You are not without sin as long as you live and breathe on this earth.  I do not judge the heart of any man but I vote for whomever I feel has or seems to have the most morals.  If you are waiting to vote for a sinless person, you will never vote again.


So you don't believe God can put into power whom He wants in power? And then according to the statement "The basest of men" such as Pharaoh was, they do not have to have morals at all.

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« Reply #196 on: Fri Sep 23, 2011 - 13:13:44 »
 The Devil offered Christ all the Kingdoms of the Earth for they are his to give,........ as in so many things I canot understand why God has given the Devil power over the kingdoms of this world save for the expression of our so sinful " free will",.......... but that's how it is,....... and anyone looking at the actions of any country in this world can only conclude this to be true in that they are driven by self interest and a desire for power and wealth,....... but we are all participants in this sinful world ,........ and participation in Politics gives us a direct opportunity to express our values as Christians,......... the only problem being of course defining those Christian values,...... and recognising the inherent sinfulness both of ourselves and the politicians and institutions that govern us,....... like every decision we make in life it's a minefield ,....... but one that we must traverse with God's help to the best of our ability.

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« Reply #197 on: Sat Oct 01, 2011 - 06:41:02 »
Politics is different from places to places. Politics in my country is not fair at all. It is a dirty game. Anyway, seek God's direction in anything you do

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« Reply #198 on: Sat Oct 01, 2011 - 08:30:50 »

Politics is different from places to places. Politics in my country is not fair at all. It is a dirty game. Anyway, seek God's direction in anything you do.


That's good advice at any time.  ::tippinghat::

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« Reply #199 on: Tue Dec 20, 2011 - 21:03:48 »
There is a book called, "Jesus for President" by Shane Claiborne that is an excellent read about Christians and politics. I highly recommend it - I'm sure it will surprise you on it's well researched perspective.

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« Reply #200 on: Tue Jan 24, 2012 - 02:21:16 »
As a Christian I believe it is crucial to seek God for the right perspective when it comes to politics, much like any other area of our lives.

We all know the political arena can be such a controversial and propagated scene. It can be much like watching gladiators slugging it out. There are battles of pride and reputations on the line. As well as, egos at war. Much of which is taking place right now! Leading many to lose focus and rethink their initial thoughts on candidates involved. With all the drama, its a wonder how anyone can keep their head straight!

In regards to my approach to politics, as both a Christian and American, for starters, I find it necessary to evaluate the current conditions we are in as a people and the path of our country thus far in light of scripture...much like I would my own life before the Lord. Because doing so will determine two very important things.

1)Are we on the right path?

If, we are NOT:

2)How do we get on the right path?

In light of scripture, I must say, we are WAY OFF BASE!

While so many are distracted by the repercussions of the financial crisis in our country, (Christians, included) they are failing to notice the root of the problem.

-"Our heart as a nation before the eyes of our God!"

We have a president who claims Christianity as his faith, yet, his decisions and directives for this country show his heart couldn't be any farther from Christ.

Our lack of right relationship as a country w/the nation of Israel. How many times have we attempted to beguile Israel to surrender to it's enemies what God said, is theirs.

We can't forget God did say to Israel:

I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you
Gen 12:3 (NKJV)

And well, we've been more like a THORN in their side!

Not to mention, the perversions and abominations of abortion, same sex marriage, pornography infested media and a pharmaceutically induced society, the list goes on.

Plainly put, these are just SOME of the issues we are up against and it is w/these issues in mind that I approach politics.




 

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« Reply #201 on: Thu Jan 26, 2012 - 11:46:16 »
The Devil offered Christ all the Kingdoms of the Earth for they are his to give,........ as in so many things I canot understand why God has given the Devil power over the kingdoms of this world save for the expression of our so sinful " free will",.......... but that's how it is,....... and anyone looking at the actions of any country in this world can only conclude this to be true in that they are driven by self interest and a desire for power and wealth,....... but we are all participants in this sinful world ,........ and participation in Politics gives us a direct opportunity to express our values as Christians,......... the only problem being of course defining those Christian values,...... and recognising the inherent sinfulness both of ourselves and the politicians and institutions that govern us,....... like every decision we make in life it's a minefield ,....... but one that we must traverse with God's help to the best of our ability.

Very insightful statements. Bravo.
We don't have much of a choice to stay out of our political system because Jesus told us "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's and unto God what is God's". Well since we live in a system that is for the people of the people and by the people we are actually obligated to take part in our system.
But we also know from the above statement that the world system is ruled by the powers and principalities of the air until the fullness of the gentiles is complete then the Father sends His Son to gather His Wife the Church.

We also know that the world will fall into a one world system of government and a one world financial system that the antichrist will come into power through and start to murder the end times saints who refuse to receive the Mark of the Beast..

We also know that this will come about in the context of our modern reality. "They were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage until the flood came". In other words, things will seem normal to us in our reality. We need to be careful then how we vote because we may either directly or indirectly cast our vote for those who are woring either knowingly or unknowingly to bring about a Satanic plan for the establishment of that one world system. "Satan's plan"? YES. Though our God makes HIs plan come about in the end, in the meantime since this world is ruled by the powers and principalities the one world govenrment is Satan's plan. We also know that he tried it before when the people built the Tower of Babal so we know that God doesn't want mankind in a fallen world system to run the entire world. Only when Jesus sits on the throne in Jerusalem does God allow a one world system.

Modern reality means United nations and central banking structures like the Federal Reserve. The bankers have been trying for many years to bring baout this one world system through control of the money supplyof every country in the world. Our own Federal Reserve bankers set up a think tank in NYC way back in 1916 called The Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) to act as a liason between those who control our money supply and the policy makers in our government. Soon thereafter their first attempt to establish a system that could bring about their plan for a one world government was called The League Of Nations. That charter was written in the CFR. The League failed but the CFR tired again by drafting the United Nations charter. If you can find it the first opening address to the UN by Robert Muller the 1st Secretary General of the UN, he made it clear and was verr proud that the UN was sety up specificially to some day become a one world government. The World Bank was set up to be a global bank.

OK so we know that a one world government will be established but we also know that God hates it and the first thing Jesus does when He returns is destroy it. We know that the context of our modern reality is that this one world govt will come about through the UN. We know that the antichrist will head the one world govt and murder untold millions of Christians until Jesus come back to rescue them in the Rapture. For those who hold to a pre-trib rapture position based on "God doesn't take His wrath out on His children" know this. For the time that the antichrist persecutes Christians that is him taking his wrath out on God's children NOT God. GOd then raptures (rescues) His Church "unless those days were cut short no flesh would be saved but for the sake of the elect those days were cut short". THEN God takes His wrath out on those who rejected the Savior and followed the evil one.

So when we vote in ANY election if we vote for a candidate who wants to allow the Federal Reserve (a corporation that is registered in the state of Delaware) to remain in control of our money supply they are either knowingly or unknowingly doing the work to bring Satan's plan come about.

When we vote for a candidate who wants to keep us in the United Nations and even spill blood for that one world organization they are either knowingly or unknowingly working to bring about a Satanic plan.

Foreign policy. Israel. We KNOW from our bible that the Jews would be scattered through the world for a period of time then come back into their own country. We also KNOW that once they do come back into their own country they WILL NEVER AGAIN BE DESTROYED. That means with or without the USA.

We KNOW from our bible that God and God ALONE is the protector of Israel. NOT the United States.

We KNOW that to apply to anyone or anything the attributes of God is blasphemy.

So to vote for a candidate who says he's a Christian or anything else who says things like "I will never stand by and allow Israel to be destroyed" is taking part in blasphemy. Who is this candidate who thinks he or the United States can prevent Israel from being destroyed? Who is this blasphemer who takes on the attributes of our Most High God who WILL NOT allow HIS people to be destroyed? Don't they know? That even if EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY INCLUDING the USA tries to destroy Israel it will not succeed? Where is the faith of God's people? Don't we believe in our own scriptures? Don't we trust our Lord?

Open your eyes children. Don't be like those who were deceived in the end. Be the elect of God when you vote.
Did you know that the CFR controls our media and they WANT only the candidates who will work to bring about their one world system and they control our elections by controlling the flow of information? THEY are the ones telling us who to vote for. THEY are the ones telling us this opr that candidate in the ONLY ONE to beat the candidate that is more evil while BOTH candidates are working for the same thing. The New World Order (the plan to bring about a one world govt).

Foreign policy War. Search Christian Just War Principles

There are only FOUR instances in our bible that allow a person to kill another and not be in violation of the Commandment that is correctly translated "thou shall not murder".

1. Capital punishment

2. by accident

3. self defense

4. defense of your family.
ALL other killing is murder ESPECIALLY when the government in a fallen world system that is ruled by the power and principalities of the air tell you to kill.

But the early Church wrestled with this matter when Rome was under attack by invaders. But they realized that if the invaders penetrated their border they would kill them and their family so in that case it was justified to take up arms and join the army because you would be defending your own family. But you wouldln't be justified to after fending off the invasion to go into that other country and start killing them and their family. You shouldn't take pleasure in killing or increase or prolong their suffering. And if your enemy is wounded you must tend to their wounds. If thirsty give them water. If hungry feed them. If our in the elements-cover them.
ALL attempts to forge peace must first be exhausted. If that failed your country must put them on notice with a declaration of war to give them a chance to change their minds about invading.

What which is our candidates wants to keep us out of the UN and NEVER send our sons to kill fo rthat one world organization?
Which of the candidates trusts God to protect Israel and is not a blasphemer?
Which of the candidates adheres to the Christian Just War Principles?
Which of the candidates has authored Bills to get us out of the UN?
Which of the candidates opposes the Federal Reserve and ALL of their attempts to establish a one world system financially and globally?

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #202 on: Sat Jan 28, 2012 - 04:18:43 »
Does God care who wins? I don't think so. Whether National or Labour won the election last year, both had good and bad about them. Both have believers in the parties. Labour claims more caring policies. National claims better economic policies. What's that got to do with God? Neither party will address abortion irrespective of the posturing over the issue. I don't think God cares. So why do Christians go at politics like its WW3. Christians debate what candidate is more 'christian'? What is that to God - what so called 'Christian' has overturned abortion - none.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #203 on: Sat Jan 28, 2012 - 17:54:58 »
Prolife Presidents nominate likely prolife justices and the Senate confirms. Since the Supreme Court is the only entity that can reverse the law of the land, wouldn't it behoove us to elect people that would likely appoint prolife justices?

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #204 on: Sat Jan 28, 2012 - 18:12:08 »
Prolife Presidents nominate likely prolife justices and the Senate confirms. Since the Supreme Court is the only entity that can reverse the law of the land, wouldn't it behoove us to elect people that would likely appoint prolife justices?
Yeah I can't answer for your country. From afar we are amused over the fixation on Presidents and who might be a pseudo-Christian. Doesn't seem to make one scrap of real difference. I think that for any Christian to be a wholehaearted supporter of one political party they have to switch off a lot of their faith. In our coutry we had a Christian Party a while ago but christians didn't vote for it because it was too shallow. It took stances on moral issues but you can't run a country on this - they had no strong economic policy. And later the party leader ended up in prison for child molestation. Horrid experiement.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #205 on: Sat Jan 28, 2012 - 19:22:18 »
I know I am NOT amused by Obama.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #206 on: Sun Jan 29, 2012 - 13:59:28 »
The thread is: 'How should christians approach politics.'

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #207 on: Sun Jan 29, 2012 - 23:59:13 »

I think that Christians should approach politics by making a priority list of the issues and vote for the one that you think best comes close to your top priorities.

 Frankly I think that most voters do that and it does not matter if they are Christian or non-Christian. Also, they will vote on their self interest but Christians are taught to not be selfish and look out for your fellow man.

To some abortion or homosexual marriage is the most important. Others it maybe the war or the economy. Still some maybe it is the social agendas.


Now you have another problem. Christians will focus on the parts of the Bible that support their priorities.

Is our government supposed to lay down laws that are based on the literal translation of the Old Testament laws?

Is our government supposed to act in war when another country does not have our form of government (Korea, Viet Nam)?
Does the Bible back this up?

Is our government supposed to do for their citizens like the Good Samaritan did?

I sour government supposed to favor capitalism because it appears to be the best way to advance the economy?
Does the Bible back this up?



You are sure to get a lot of different views

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #208 on: Mon Jan 30, 2012 - 00:11:02 »

I think that Christians should approach politics by making a priority list of the issues and vote for the one that you think best comes close to your top priorities.Frankly I think that most voters do that and it does not matter if they are Christian or non-Christian. Also, they will vote on their self interest but Christians are taught to not be selfish and look out for your fellow man.To some abortion or homosexual marriage is the most important. Others it maybe the war or the economy. Still some maybe it is the social agendas.Now you have another problem. Christians will focus on the parts of the Bible that support their priorities.Is our government supposed to lay down laws that are based on the literal translation of the Old Testament laws?Is our government supposed to act in war when another country does not have our form of government (Korea, Viet Nam)? Does the Bible back this up?Is our government supposed to do for their citizens like the Good Samaritan did?I sour government supposed to favor capitalism because it appears to be the best way to advance the economy?
Does the Bible back this up?
You are sure to get a lot of different views
Wow - a thoughtful post addressing the thread! Well done. I think that Christians should make up their minds based on what the Lord is showing them. That they are more passionate about social issues domestically, or international style and policy, (or whatever) is great. God has made us to be passionate about these things to get us involved in them and praying for them. So, whether you guys falls fall on the R or D of your political spectrum, why not celebrate each other and the input you can each have in the different parties.

And why not pray for leaders instead of criticising them. I am shocked at the blatant disobediance of many posters here to Jesus' commands about supporting your leaders. I think many in their hearts have passed judgement of Mr Obama and broken Jesus' commands in doing so. I don't get how that could possibly lead to an outpouring of blessing on your country.

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Re: How should Christians approach politics?
« Reply #209 on: Mon Jan 30, 2012 - 11:07:44 »
Prolife Presidents nominate likely prolife justices and the Senate confirms. Since the Supreme Court is the only entity that can reverse the law of the land, wouldn't it behoove us to elect people that would likely appoint prolife justices?

No. Not necessarily. We need judges that will uphold the Constitution. If we did that then they would know that the federal government has no authority to make laws or to rule in cases like abortion. Secondly, we don't want our judges to make laws or reverse laws. ONLY Congress has that authority under our Constitution. The Courts are supposed to interpret the laws that Congress makes. Before Roe V Wade there are a lot less abortions and it was illegal in most states but now since the SC overstepped their authority it's legal in every state and nearly impossible to reverse. This method will NEVER change ANYTHING. There was a Bill that was authored by Ron Paul that could have ended abortion on demand with a simple majority vote and circumvent the SC all togeher.