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Re: I'm voting for...........(President)
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 05:53:01 AM »
Effectively, you are voting for Obama.

What a bunch of Ga Ga.

I have ONE vote to cast. The person I vote for is the person I voted for. Period.

NO ONE owns my vote or deserves my vote except for the candidate that I think deserves it according to my own conscience.

My issues are freedom.
Get us out fo the United Nations
End the Federal Reserve's control over our money supply and allow competing currencies to put this country back on a path toward prosperity
Limited Constitutional government.
Secure our borders and THEN reform our immigration laws
NO MORE government education, housing, food stamps, social security, medical treatment for illegal immigrants
End abortion on demand once and for all by taking it out of the hands of the federal government where they NEVER had the authority to begin with and reverting it back to the individual states and declaring that life begins at conception
Stop the practice of corporate welfare whether they call it incentives, investments, grants, tax breaks, subsidies or no bid contracts
Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS
End the war on drugs at the federal level
Stop policing the world and sticking our noses into the business of other countries
Repeal the New Deal and all of the unconstitutional entitlements
Repeal the Patriot Act IMMEDIATELY
repeal the TSA
Repeal the DHS
Repeal NDAA
Abolish the NAFTA, CAFTA, SPP, and get us out of the IMF and WTO


There is only one candidate who even comes close to those issues that I find important


Ron Paul

That is all well and good, but what is the point of voting for him if you know that voting for him would virtually guarantee election of one who will do almost the exact opposite?  There is a difference between standing up for the things that you believe, even shouting them from the roof tops, and voting.

The interesting thing here is that even Ron Paul is not running because he thinks he can be President. He is a lot smarter than that.  It is not certain that he even wants to be President although I think that he probably would like that.  What he is really after is a voice in the setting of the Republican platform.

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 11:11:27 AM »
Effectively, you are voting for Obama.



yeah, right.........................sigh.......... .......



It is exactly right, and you should sigh at the consequences of your choice to throw your vote away.

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Re: I'm voting for...........(President)
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 01:30:46 PM »
Effectively, you are voting for Obama.


What a bunch of Ga Ga.

I have ONE vote to cast. The person I vote for is the person I voted for. Period.

NO ONE owns my vote or deserves my vote except for the candidate that I think deserves it according to my own conscience.

My issues are freedom.
Get us out fo the United Nations
End the Federal Reserve's control over our money supply and allow competing currencies to put this country back on a path toward prosperity
Limited Constitutional government.
Secure our borders and THEN reform our immigration laws
NO MORE government education, housing, food stamps, social security, medical treatment for illegal immigrants
End abortion on demand once and for all by taking it out of the hands of the federal government where they NEVER had the authority to begin with and reverting it back to the individual states and declaring that life begins at conception
Stop the practice of corporate welfare whether they call it incentives, investments, grants, tax breaks, subsidies or no bid contracts
Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS
End the war on drugs at the federal level
Stop policing the world and sticking our noses into the business of other countries
Repeal the New Deal and all of the unconstitutional entitlements
Repeal the Patriot Act IMMEDIATELY
repeal the TSA
Repeal the DHS
Repeal NDAA
Abolish the NAFTA, CAFTA, SPP, and get us out of the IMF and WTO


There is only one candidate who even comes close to those issues that I find important


Ron Paul


That is all well and good, but what is the point of voting for him if you know that voting for him would virtually guarantee election of one who will do almost the exact opposite?  There is a difference between standing up for the things that you believe, even shouting them from the roof tops, and voting.

The interesting thing here is that even Ron Paul is not running because he thinks he can be President. He is a lot smarter than that.  It is not certain that he even wants to be President although I think that he probably would like that.  What he is really after is a voice in the setting of the Republican platform.


Allow yourself the information that will dispell tha myth in your thinking. Ron Paul CAN stil win the GOP nomination.

http://runronpaul.com/interest/reality-check-the-real-republican-delegate-numbers/

Contrary to what the establishment media liars are telling the American people, Ron Paul is actually second in delegates.
This isn't about him "having a voice" at the convention. It's not about some mythical alliance with Romney so Rand Paul can be the VP. Ron Paul NEVER said that he doesn't want to be our president or that he doesn't think he can win. What he did say was that being president is just as important as changing the direction of our country and bringing back freedom. It's not about a power trip with him. In fact, he pledges to not take any more power than what the Constitution allows him and he WILL repeal all of the presedential signing orders that previous presidents signed that gave to them extra power and allowed them to circumvent Congress.
This is the guy we need whether you know it or not. We've been waiting a long time for a man like this to come along who is honest, and takes his oath seriously. THAT is why the establishment is terrified of him and the media either blacks him out or lies or marginalizes him. "They" don't want you and me to vote for Ron Paul giving us proof that he's the right one.

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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 04:20:04 PM »
I said I would not talk with RP groupies any more but this is just crazy.  How do you figure RP is second in delicate count.  He has 46 and is dead last.  You have to win some states to get a lot of delegates and he has not done that.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 04:21:33 PM »
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I said I would not talk with RP groupies any more but this is just crazy.  How do you figure RP is second in delicate count.  He has 47 and is dead last.  You have to win some states to get a lot of delegates and he has not done that.

Did you watch the video?

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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 05:16:04 PM »
Yes and RP is still dead last even in your video.  It is based on fuzzy math and has nothing to do with reality.  In your video RP has only 11 delegates which is dead last.  He will not be the GOP nominee.  You are living in a make believe world.
Notice in the link I posted those super delegates have already expressed a preferance and contray to your video almost none have said RP.  While they can change their mind nothing indicates that tey will vote for a guy who can not win a race.
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 08:50:08 PM »
I do not know who I am voting for. The "anyone but Obama" canidate has not yet been decided.  ::giggle::

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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2012, 09:14:37 PM »
Yes and RP is still dead last even in your video.  It is based on fuzzy math and has nothing to do with reality.  In your video RP has only 11 delegates which is dead last.  He will not be the GOP nominee.  You are living in a make believe world.
Notice in the link I posted those super delegates have already expressed a preferance and contray to your video almost none have said RP.  While they can change their mind nothing indicates that tey will vote for a guy who can not win a race.

It wasnt my video.  Calm down.   ::doh::

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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 04:31:47 AM »
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I am calm it just seems that the RP supporters live in a make believe world where he is either going to win without winning or that there is some great conspiracy against him so they will vote for him regardless.  It just wears thin. I just like to deal in facts and reality.  None of the folks running are my first choice.  However I will not write in some one in the general election.  I will vote for the most conservative who is electable.  I love my country to much to see Obama get another 4 years.

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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2012, 05:35:44 PM »
Alfred
I am calm it just seems that the RP supporters live in a make believe world where he is either going to win without winning or that there is some great conspiracy against him so they will vote for him regardless.  It just wears thin. I just like to deal in facts and reality.  None of the folks running are my first choice.  However I will not write in some one in the general election.  I will vote for the most conservative who is electable.  I love my country to much to see Obama get another 4 years.

Between the other three candidates, I honestly don't see how any of them would be an improvement over Obama.

Can some non-RP supporters remind me? I totally forgot.  ::doh::

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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2012, 11:49:32 PM »
The ones living in the make believe world are the ones blindly supporting the GOP nominee and expecting to get reduced spending, reduced debt and a more limited constitutional government.

Seems like only 3 groups here.

1. Support Obama.
2. Support Ron Paul.
3. Blindly support whoever the GOP shoves down your throat.

I don't know why the GOP doesn't run a Dole/McCain ticket and get it over with already.

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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2012, 06:17:29 AM »
Right that is why no candidate has a lock on the GOP nomination right now. (sarcasm intended)  It is because folks are voting and their is no clear choice right now.  It is not the GOP establishment cramming one candidate down our throat.  It is a hard choice because folks voting are not crazy about any of those running.  From real votes they are the least excited about Ron Paul. 

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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2012, 10:07:07 AM »
Right that is why no candidate has a lock on the GOP nomination right now. (sarcasm intended)  It is because folks are voting and their is no clear choice right now.  It is not the GOP establishment cramming one candidate down our throat.  It is a hard choice because folks voting are not crazy about any of those running.  From real votes they are the least excited about Ron Paul. 

Most folks aren't very smart.  If they were, they would vote Paul.

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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2012, 01:21:23 PM »
They are smart enough to know that all running are career politicians including Paul.  That is why they are not excited.  But the real battle is still to get conservatives (notice I did not say republicans) in charge of both houses.

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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2012, 05:01:39 PM »
The only conservative running for President is Ron Paul.