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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 05:00:04 PM »
Got your e-mail, thanks!  I have also posted our threads in their entirety where the moderators can see what you have done.
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 05:11:49 PM »
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Got your e-mail, thanks!  I have also posted our threads in their entirety where the moderators can see what you have done.
And what you have done as well.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 06:58:22 PM »
My daddy can beat up your daddy.
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 07:07:50 PM »
Quote from: zoonance on November 06, 2009, 06:58:22 PM
My daddy can beat up your daddy.
I don't want any daddy beating up anyone else's daddy. That would be garbagely.
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 07:17:35 PM »
 Ha, the irony of it all is how the Islamic Religion treats women like second class citizens, and a brave woman took him down. Poetic justice, thank you Jesus, for that, Canary he who has ears let him hear, what is wrong with you? That's crazy
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2009, 07:25:37 PM »
Quote from: lightshineon on November 06, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Ha, the irony of it all is how the Islamic Religion treats women like second class citizens...

As does fundamentalist Christianity. Ironic, but not to Martin Marty.  Fundamentalism permeates all major religions. Characteristics:

    * Men are to lead and women and children follow. Wives are to be subservient to their husbands. Often, this subservience applies to sisters toward their brothers. A woman's role in life is to be a homemaker.
    * The rules of their religion are complex and rigid and must be followed. Therefore, to avoid any confusion, children of fundamentalists must be sequestered in an environment of like-minded adherents to the corresponding fundamentalist religion. Especially so in their schooling.
    * There is no pluralism. Their rules apply to everyone everywhere.
    * There is a distinct group of insiders and all others are outsiders. Insiders are nurtured and cared for. Outsiders are cast off and fought.
    * They pine for an older age and wane for a past time when their religion was pure, as largely they no longer see it as such. Often times, this time period never truly existed, but they have a nostalgic view of a Utopian past and they long to acquire this past.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 07:33:05 PM »
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Quote from: lightshineon on November 06, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Ha, the irony of it all is how the Islamic Religion treats women like second class citizens...

As does fundamentalist Christianity. Ironic, but not to Martin Marty.  Fundamentalism permeates all major religions. Characteristics:

    * Men are to lead and women and children follow. Wives are to be subservient to their husbands. Often, this subservience applies to sisters toward their brothers. A woman's role in life is to be a homemaker.
    * The rules of their religion are complex and rigid and must be followed. Therefore, to avoid any confusion, children of fundamentalists must be sequestered in an environment of like-minded adherents to the corresponding fundamentalist religion. Especially so in their schooling.
    * There is no pluralism. Their rules apply to everyone everywhere.
    * There is a distinct group of insiders and all others are outsiders. Insiders are nurtured and cared for. Outsiders are cast off and fought.
    * They pine for an older age and wane for a past time when their religion was pure, as largely they no longer see it as such. Often times, this time period never truly existed, but they have a nostalgic view of a Utopian past and they long to acquire this past.


 Nope, you are wrong, husbands are commanded to love their wife's, as Christ does the church. We are to submit to our husbands as to the Lord, not out of fear. Men and women submit to one another. In the Koran they may beat their wives. Jesus had women disciples. And  Christian men do not honor kill their women.  They are not muslim wuss men, who kill women for no reason.You evidently do not know the Christian religion verses the evil Islamic religion brown canary. maybe some good theological training might help. Islam is  evil and violent, blood thirsty, false religion, and Jesus Christ will judge you for speaking against him.  I ask again who are you for?
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 07:35:41 PM »
Quote from: lightshineon on November 06, 2009, 07:33:05 PM
Jesus Christ will judge you for speaking against him.

Says who, fundamentalist?
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 07:41:51 PM »
Quote from: Logismos on November 06, 2009, 03:50:06 PM
CNN and Fox are competitors but they are both fundamentally conservative. I heard those same exact facts from other sources as soon as they were available. The real differences is that Fox is willing to immediately draw conclusions from unconfirmed data. As far as why Fox was willing to focus on religion so early on? They have no class and because of their ultra nationalistic perspective and their largely fundamentalist audience. So focusing on that gets more ad revenue. Its like when a crazed American rapes and kills a some Iraqis the most irrational elements in the Islamic world use it as ammo for their political agenda.

So the real question isn't about why CNN and Fox are different, the question that should be be asked why Fox News and radical Islamic news sources so are so similar.

So during a time when we're at war within 2 Islamic nations against multiple Islamic terrorist groups and both of those wars came after Islamic terrorists attacked our homeland, it is irrelevant to point out that someone who opened fire on a military base was in fact Islamic? And pointing that out makes Fox like Islamic extremists?

Shazam! I wish I could scholarship you to a "being-objective" seminar or something.
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2009, 07:47:31 PM »
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Quote from: Logismos on November 06, 2009, 03:50:06 PM
CNN and Fox are competitors but they are both fundamentally conservative. I heard those same exact facts from other sources as soon as they were available. The real differences is that Fox is willing to immediately draw conclusions from unconfirmed data. As far as why Fox was willing to focus on religion so early on? They have no class and because of their ultra nationalistic perspective and their largely fundamentalist audience. So focusing on that gets more ad revenue. Its like when a crazed American rapes and kills a some Iraqis the most irrational elements in the Islamic world use it as ammo for their political agenda.

So the real question isn't about why CNN and Fox are different, the question that should be be asked why Fox News and radical Islamic news sources so are so similar.

So during a time when we're at war within 2 Islamic nations against multiple Islamic terrorist groups and both of those wars came after Islamic terrorists attacked our homeland, it is irrelevant to point out that someone who opened fire on a military base was in fact Islamic? And pointing that out makes Fox like Islamic extremists?

Shazam! I wish I could scholarship you to a "being-objective" seminar or something.


 Rolling on floor laughing Rolling on floor laughing Rolling on floor laughing pray for some reality from above, for these so brain washed.
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2009, 07:52:09 PM »
Quote from: Logismos on November 06, 2009, 03:50:06 PM
CNN and Fox are competitors but they are both fundamentally conservative.

Oh my heavens. CNN conservative? Wow...

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I heard those same exact facts from other sources as soon as they were available. The real differences is that Fox is willing to immediately draw conclusions from unconfirmed data. As far as why Fox was willing to focus on religion so early on? They have no class and because of their ultra nationalistic perspective and their largely fundamentalist audience.

No, they report it because it is truth. I realize it doesn't fit in with the muslim loving agenda, but it is truth nonetheless. That is why they report it. Fox is not and will not be Obama's mouth piece. And they have been labelled negatively because of it by the administration.

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Its like when a crazed American rapes and kills a some Iraqis the most irrational elements in the Islamic world use it as ammo for their political agenda.

No it isn't. Not even close. I have never seen masses of American running through the streets firing weapons and screaming to murder all the muslims because of what they have done. How can you even compare the two?

If an American GI rapes and kills an Iraqi, they will pay. Our government will make sure of it.

We, as a nation, have went out of our way to make the muslims like us. "Look at us, we really are fair".... But for the terrorist, who are muslims, they continue to murder and their own people do nothing about it.

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So the real question isn't about why CNN and Fox are different, the question that should be be asked why Fox News and radical Islamic news sources so are so similar.

Only in a twisted mind would that be the real question to be asked.
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2009, 11:09:06 PM »
Thanks Mac. You must be having a festive Saturday night because certainly a sober person didn't just write that last post filled with complete non-responses. I wish there was some legitimate quality thought there to respond to.
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2009, 11:36:04 PM »
Quote from: Johnb on November 06, 2009, 04:40:39 PM
CNN conservative?  You need a new dictionary. Rolling on floor laughing

Yes CNN is fundamentally conservative. Perhaps it isn't in bed with Republican Party and conservative ideologues the way that Fox is. But CNN does have a conservative slant in a larger systemic sense. They work to maintain the status quo. They provide a voice almost exclusively to the elite (usually wealthy) gatekeepers of our society. When it comes to war, they work to promote and even encourage US militarism. Meanwhile like any other corporate TV news product, they deliberately ignore a great many significant topics within the US and around the world on a day to day basis and focus on a small handful of issues that the gatekeepers choose are important (even though they typically are meaningless fluff in the grand scheme of things).
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2009, 03:22:46 PM »
 Wow, Log is Al-jazeera Tv, the only news liberal enough for you. (LOL)
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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2009, 03:34:49 PM »
Quote from: Logismos on November 07, 2009, 11:36:04 PM
Quote from: Johnb on November 06, 2009, 04:40:39 PM
CNN conservative?  You need a new dictionary. Rolling on floor laughing

Yes CNN is fundamentally conservative. Perhaps it isn't in bed with Republican Party and conservative ideologues the way that Fox is. But CNN does have a conservative slant in a larger systemic sense. They work to maintain the status quo. They provide a voice almost exclusively to the elite (usually wealthy) gatekeepers of our society. When it comes to war, they work to promote and even encourage US militarism. Meanwhile like any other corporate TV news product, they deliberately ignore a great many significant topics within the US and around the world on a day to day basis and focus on a small handful of issues that the gatekeepers choose are important (even though they typically are meaningless fluff in the grand scheme of things).


This post, if spoken, would require the following affectations

1. a Brahman east coast accent, "grey poupon?"
2. A long nose, for nasal tonality and to
3 Perch reading glasses at the tip and peer over them

Sort of like Bill buckley but he deserved and earned his stature.
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