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Can you believe this man won! Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman victory proves without any disputation that no longer do people care about a person's qualification of fulfilling the office, they just want their vote within their party ranks to support their agendas ~that's called corruption at its worse.
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I think they were going for the D as in control of the Senate. Not for any of his “attributes”. I do understand that unfortunately. I don’t think my  “least worst” theory can apply there. Fetterman was easily THE WORST, by far.
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Red wave?? Nah, maybe, just maybe, a ripple.  As I said, most people aren't looking to be free, they are looking to be taken care of, at least until the find out that they have lost their freedom.

It is really sad.  America, the last really great country, is going down the tubes.

Today, I am feeling really old.

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John Fetterman's win proves something else....Trump isn't very good at picking the right people for the job.  We should have known that from the swinging doors of his Cabinet.

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https://rumble.com/v1spxkc-illegal-electioneering-for-fetterman-and-shapiro-caught-on-undercover-video.html

Isn't it amazing that these things turn up after the fact.

We know that Philly is corrupt beyond measure... but showing this now is for what purpose? It cannot change anything.

Like after the elections of Obama where they showed the black panthers standing at the doors of the voting places.....

No wonder 59 precincts in the heart of Philly had not one vote for Romney.... those voters were frightened to death to enter.

It is done. I am sick about it.... as well as the country.

Voting Hockle in and Whitmer?

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Red wave?? Nah, maybe, just maybe, a ripple.  As I said, most people aren't looking to be free, they are looking to be taken care of, at least until the find out that they have lost their freedom.

It is really sad.  America, the last really great country, is going down the tubes.

Today, I am feeling really old.

That was one of the questions on the screen on Fox. About government taking more control of lives etc, and more then 50% chose that.

Don't think they care about real freedom as long as they can coast through life with the minimum effort and have no one interfere with their sensual pleasures.

Feeling old? Yep, I got that. Unfortunately not old enough for me cause I cringe at what the next 2 years will bring... and after that as well because they have found their way to control the political end of things... possibly through the jabs?

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John Fetterman's win proves something else....Trump isn't very good at picking the right people for the job.  We should have known that from the swinging doors of his Cabinet.

Funny that.  DT had 60 or 70 primary wins for people he endorsed... and less then a handful that lost the primary.

Why then do you suppose those people could not get across the finish line?

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Funny that.  DT had 60 or 70 primary wins for people he endorsed... and less then a handful that lost the primary.

Why then do you suppose those people could not get across the finish line?

Trump pushing Oz in the primary was an absolute failure on Trump's part.  Same thing in endorsing Tudor Dixon in Michigan. 

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I think Democrats get it. Senate control is way more important than electing an imbecile in Fetterman. Republicans need to get on board with that. Control of the houses of congress hinges on the tally of Rs vs Ds. It matters not one iota if an individual candidate is ideal or not. Also, if we didn’t get maximum GOP turnout this time around, it will never happen. It wouldn’t have mattered who Trump supported in PA, the Dems were all about the sum of Ds vs Rs in each house individually. It was no consideration to them that the individual Fetterman was a terrible candidate. The PA Dems demonstrated a simple concept in our imperfect 2 party system. I salute their common sense in looking at the big picture. I don’t know if that was a party effort or just widespread common sense. Ideological purity will lose Republicans a whole lot of elections as they ignore the simple message on the Jumbotron. >>>> ELECT MORE REPUBLICANS IN EACH HOUSE. THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS in this goofy two-party system. Until we change the system, we must understand how to capitalize our efforts with what we have. The Dems sure have. They took what should have been a monstrous defeat for them and did amazingly well by using their heads.
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They're saying the 18-24 year olds came out in record numbers and voted Democrat.

Why? Not for economic reasons.


The girls want to kill their babies and the guys are happy to let them. Period.

They're also all in on the tranny kid mutilation movement.


They don't care about inflation, 401k plummeting, gas prices, utility prices,  food priced, etc, because they're financially secure due to mommy and daddy paying the bills.

Yes, this all boiled down to girls wanting to kill their unborn babies sexually mutilate children - and the people who support that.

https://twitter.com/imheathergraham/status/1589633573933424641


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You're probably right Mommydi, the Roe vs Wade SCOTUS leak was epic from the Left. No one was concerned about overturn until the leak. I assumed it would likely never happen. But the leak was pivotal. Another reluctant high five to the dastardly Left. You gotta give it to them. They ARE better at this "game" than we are.

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Turnout was bad.  In my county, only just under 52% of registered voters showed up.

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The over-confidence of the Red Wave jumped up and bit us. I talked to 4 of my close friends who are about as politically rabid as I am and all 4 did not vote! I'm surprised they admitted that. I scolded them of course and said, next time even 3 time loser Beto might luck out if enough GOP'ers stay home. Even in Florida if the stay at home virus catches on, Charlie Crist the one time Republican, Independent and Democrat might get elected to something. The Dems helping gin up the Red Wave, was kryptonite to the fickle GOP voters. Another kudos for the Dems understanding the game.
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John Fetterman's win proves something else....Trump isn't very good at picking the right people for the job.  We should have known that from the swinging doors of his Cabinet.

Could be right 4WD, but a proven conservative woulda gotten eviscerated in PA. We needed Oz's R, not his idealogy. Kinda like the Dems recognized they needed Fetterman's D rather than any of his pitiful non-existent personal qualities. Gotta hand it to them, they GET the 2-party system. We don't.

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Could be right 4WD, but a proven conservative woulda gotten eviscerated in PA. We needed Oz's R, not his idealogy. Kinda like the Dems recognized they needed Fetterman's D rather than any of his pitiful personal qualities. Gotta hand it to them.

Wrong.  You run a Democrat as a Republican, the Republicans stay home.  Trump failed in pushing Oz.

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That means the Republicans are stupid. When they realize how the R's and D's are tallied for deciding all important control of the houses of congress, we will start to make progress. The Dems schooled us on how it works with Fetterman. We learn or we perish as meaningful participants.

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That means the Republicans are stupid. When they realize how the R's and D's are tallied for deciding all important control of the houses of congress, we will start to make progress. The Dems schooled us on how it works with Fetterman. We learn or we perish as meaningful participants.

In the case of Oz, it also applies to Trump.  Trump was stupid with this choice.  It wasn't some grand plan.  He made a stupid choice.  Not everything with Trump is some kind of 3-D chess where he will eventually reveal his plan and come back triumphant like he is Aslan.

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In what parallel universe would a bonafide conservative have been a better GOP nominee in PA? The 3D chess was played by the Democrat voters in PA. They may keep control of the Senate because of that, even though Fetterman is an empty suit or...........hoodie. We were ONLY as close as we were BECAUSE of the uber moderate OZ. PA isn't Oklahoma or Texas where conservatives have a chance in H E double hockey sticks.

Take Michigan for example. Who would have given Cruella Whitmer a chance to remain governor as the Draconian Queen of the Covidians?
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Wrong.  You run a Democrat as a Republican, the Republicans stay home.  Trump failed in pushing Oz.
Except Republican turnout in Pennsylvania was high.


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Funny that.  DT had 60 or 70 primary wins for people he endorsed... and less then a handful that lost the primary.

Why then do you suppose those people could not get across the finish line?
The Democrats strategy worked exactly the way it was supposed to.  They wanted everyone with Trump ties to win the primaries.  They even put money into campaigns for those candidates in the primaries.

Then they campaigned against them in the main election portraying them as extremists.  It worked.  Trump is radioactive, and he just hasn't realized it yet.

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Except Republican turnout in Pennsylvania was high.

They must have failed to employ the simple R must be greater than D principal for the Senate. If they left the Senate Race blank because of OZ they are morons of the highest order in the two party universe of Bizarro World. Republicans are like the 5 year old getting beat over and over in tic-tac-to. Let's get a clue people.
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The Democrats strategy worked exactly the way it was supposed to.  They wanted everyone with Trump ties to win the primaries.  They even put money into campaigns for those candidates in the primaries.

Then they campaigned against them in the main election portraying them as extremists.  It worked.  Trump is radioactive, and he just hasn't realized it yet.

Jarrod

Dems understand GOPers better than GOPers understand themselves. R's must be greater than D's. It ain't exactly the Pythagorean theory. Until they cast off the expectation of perfect candidates, they are doomed to defeat at the hands of the wily Democrats. And as much as I like Rand Paul, a perfect candidate such as him cannot win in a lot of places. That could happen if the GOP learn to play for keeps in the game of the 2-party system. Case in point - without the highly imperfect Donald Trump and his judicial appointments, Roe vs Wade would have zero chance of getting overturned. That leak had a lot to do with this tepid Republican result and great Democrat response to a potential Red Wave.
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The Democrats strategy worked exactly the way it was supposed to.  They wanted everyone with Trump ties to win the primaries.  They even put money into campaigns for those candidates in the primaries.

Then they campaigned against them in the main election portraying them as extremists.  It worked.  Trump is radioactive, and he just hasn't realized it yet.

Jarrod
You left out the Uniparty leaders who worked together with the Dems on that scheme - Mitch McConnell, McCarthy, and Ronna Romney McDaniel.





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In what parallel universe would a bonafide conservative have been a better GOP nominee in PA? The 3D chess was played by the Democrat voters in PA. They may keep control of the Senate because of that, even though Fetterman is an empty suit or...........hoodie. We were ONLY as close as we were BECAUSE of the uber moderate OZ. PA isn't Oklahoma or Texas where conservatives have a chance in H E double hockey sticks.

Take Michigan for example. Who would have given Cruella Whitmer a chance to remain governor as the Draconian Queen of the Covidians?

Turnout in Michigan was not high.  And abortion was on the ballot.

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If it was not high across the board, Dems still come out on top. The Red Wave Mirage swooned the GOP voters. The Dems had every angle covered!
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