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« on: April 05, 2009, 01:15:43 PM »

This is a copy of an email I received from Walid Shoebat's organization:


I am a former causer of man made disasters and now involving myself in the project of overseas contingency plans.

If I were making a speech instead of writing it I might need a teleprompter to speak the title of this article. Does anyone understand what our government is doing?  For those that cannot work it out or need help in deciphering President Obama's code  for the new word or words for a terrorist and the latte elitist language for "War on Terror," you just got it in the title of the article.

Our most understanding president sends a love video to Iran; I just hope he sent it in the right format so they could actually see it. The Iranians must have seen it because there were comments from the mad mullahs that were not exactly encouraging.

As a person who in my youth was steeped in terrorism and hatred we would sneer at such talk from Israelis or Americans.  The current NON-politics of fear will bring death and destruction, or "man made disasters."  If the truth is to be known is that our President will be the true cause of the man made disasters with the policies of appeasement that are beyond irresponsible.

As a former Jihadist (which is a word that according to our President is the "politics of fear), let me tell you what will defeat the terrorists.  First we must identify the problem, which in itself is politically incorrect.  The issue is not terrorism, which is the symptom but the real problem is the ideology of Islamic Fundamentalism.  In the Middle East and even in America Islamic Fundamentalism is the prevalent and dominant within the Muslim world. This is what needs to be defeated or blunted heavily before we can stop the violence.

For those that do not understand the meaning of Islamic Fundamentalist as a former Muslim terrorist let me give you it exactly: "Religious conditioning taught to Muslim masses, by using illusions of misery, historic manipulation, and illusion of the virtues of a distant past by continual reflection on glory days long ago, in order to convert the masses into angry, pride filled, remorseless killers and seekers of salvation by death. The goal is to intimidate non-Muslims by fear and threats, in order to re-establish a utopian theocratic world order in which Islam and Muslims are dominant and all non-Muslims are subservient. This conditioning becomes the sole focus of both the spiritual leaders, and the followers in every aspect of their daily lives."

I experienced the Friday prayers when the Imam would spew from the pulpit the hatred of Jews, Christians and Americans, the evidence of which is all over the Internet but not on our mainstream media. Today it is a hundreds times worse than when I was a terrorist in the 1970s and early 1980s.  In America there is overwhelming evidence that the same hatred is being propagated at epidemic proportions in the United States within the mosques and no one in our government is willing to speak on it let alone do something about it. 

Many in our media and even some of our most conservative voices wish to believe that the problem of terrorism is based on a minority of extremists but this I tell you as a former Muslim and a former terrorist is far from the truth.  When I lived in the West Bank our whole society was steeped in this hatred from the school, the mosque, the media and even in our family, this is the way it is right across the Middle East which is hidden from us by the mainstream media.

If we are to defeat the evil of Islamic Fundamentalism and the scourge of "man made caused disasters" we need to first recognize the problem as I have identified if we are even to start to defeat it. 

We need to educate ourselves, recognize the deceptions that we as a society are willing to accept for the sake of political correctness but in the long term will only create an even bigger disaster if we do not begin to deal with them today.  The parallel comparison is our unwillingness to deal with the Nazis until it was too late. We have the potential for twenty, thirty or more Nazi states to emerge with the dominance if Islamic Fundamentalism. Churchill was regarded as a Naziphobe, he was one of the few who sounded the alarm bells.  I am an Islamaphobe can I and a few others be right and the rest of the world wrong?  History says yes.

The current policies and ideas from this new presidential administration will only bring more and bigger "man caused disasters" both to our shores and to our allies.
 
Walid Shoebat and Keith Davies

Leader and Executive Director Walid Shoebat Foundation
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 02:38:53 PM »

I'll take his word over that of any democrat or European leader any day of the week.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 07:28:18 PM »

This is an excellent testimony from one who would know but Americans are no longer listening to reason apparently it is too hard to believe that some might just hate us.

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 01:30:54 AM »

I invited Walid to speak at my university this past school year, it was a pleasure and an honor to hear him and Kamal Saleem, they are both remarkable men and are truly on fire for Christ.  I hope more start listening to their words, they're in a much better position to tell us what terrorism is really about then the elitists at our universities who claim to be experts

I was met with a lot of opposition in bringing him to my Univ., but it was worth it, we had a great turnout (over 1200) and caused quite a stir, making people who hate their message very angry.  But I guess if the apostles died for their beliefs the least I can do is take some grief from university punks and bureaucrats!
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2009, 07:24:54 AM »

I was met with a lot of opposition in bringing him to my Univ.,

Opposition from who?
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Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 06:56:37 PM »

The Muslim Student Association, the on-campus "peace center," university administration, and local mosques tried to get over a hundred tickets in one large block so they could disrupt the event.  A student activities administrator tried to revoke the funding I'd received from the school on a technicality, he was receiving a lot of loud complaints from campus leftists and he was trying to please them, even though they had issued an official and signed letter guaranteeing the money, once we contacted a higher administration official and told them what happened the money was re-issued within an hour (but the bureaucrat who revoked it claimed he chose to reinstate it on his own, he didn't know I knew about the call to the higher official). 

Our posters for the event were torn down multiple times a day and the same student activities guy claimed our posters didn't meet posting guidelines (which are NEVER enforced on other student organizations, like the Muslim Student Association who were the ones complaining about the posters, and I have photo evidence showing how they violated posting guidelines in the exact same manner.  The administration for student activities simply made it as difficult as possible to promote the event on campus, and when we had new posters printed that were the right size (the originals were two inches too large, heaven forbid) he refused to do anything to ensure they not be torn down.  He also told me that "as a person of color" he found the posters, depicting two men wearing kafiyas (terrorist garb) unsettling, and later denied he made this statement when confronted by a rep. from the Shoebat foundation (he can deny it all he wants, I have both his original statement and subsequent denial on tape, ha!).  Best part was he got caught in the lie in front of his boss and left the meeting with his head down humiliated, I would feel sorry for him but his own imprudent behavior is what caused it.

There were protesters at the event calling Walid and Kamal fakes citing a bunch of bogus evidence to support their allegations.  Their credentials obviously checked out enough to satisfy the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, because both men are consultants to both agencies on issues of counter-terrorism, and I think they're a little better at background checks then some politically motivated yuppies at a college peace center.

But the event was a success, we had a great turnout and got in two local newspapers and on the radio.  The whole point was simply to get Walid and Kamal's message out, so the opposition actually helped us, the newspapers would never have gotten interested if it hadn't been for things like our posters getting torn down several times a day.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 07:07:30 PM »

Poverty, corrupt governments (britain and america like to whine about police state and corruption respectively but try living in a real police state) breed extremism. I wouldnt be surprised to walk through any slum in the world and feel the hate.  I fully agree this is not a war against a minority. It is a war against a culture.  But it is a culture they seem to want to live in (the whole region blows each other up more than they do us).

Look at india for example. Very poverty stricken, but through hard work India is rising to become a world power. So the liberal excuse of 'it is our fault they are like that because we abused them doesnt apply. Or it can only apply up to a certain extent, there comes a time, when a nation has to let go of its hate and climb up on its own two feet.

I know well enough the extremism in the middle east (not rife, but it is more common than in the west) and I am sick of the PC attitude about it as well.  For the west to win this one we have got to look at the situation in a much larger viewpoint.


but how can we turn around a culture of hate?
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 07:07:46 PM »

It's interesting and very telling how the leftists and muslims work together.
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They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 07:20:07 PM »

but how can we turn around a culture of hate?

Three ways come to mind:

1  Build a time machine, go back in time, put a cap in Muhammed's head.

2  Do what we did to two milder versions in the 1940s

3  persuade them


Number 1 is impossible, number 3 looks impossible since the west, especially Europe, is currently doing nothing more than negotiating a surrender.  I hope it is just a 1930s mindset that will change.

If you remember some of my other posts about US energy development, this is one of the reasons why, to gut the Islamic economy.   
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Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 07:23:44 PM »

killing muhammed would have jack effect. Like I have said, the culture of hate has nothing to do with Islam, it is just islam is being used to generate hate, just like every religion has at some point.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 08:04:54 PM »

killing muhammed would have jack effect. Like I have said, the culture of hate has nothing to do with Islam, it is just islam is being used to generate hate, just like every religion has at some point.

Islam is bigotry codified.
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They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 09:10:53 PM »

I agree Nick. The true believers, the west calls "radical" are the one's who live in a country where Islam has achieved oolitical control. In the West, followers appear moderate UNTIL Islamification is achieved in a given country. It'sd just part of the process, according to Walid Shoebat, a convert out of the systemic incubator of hate.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 09:33:13 PM »

I read this in a Ketcherside book:

"The right to be wrong in matters of religious belief must be accorded, otherwise we produce hypocrites instead of persons with an enlightened belief that is fully their own. If the truth be might and God all-powerful, His children need not fear that disaster will follow freedom of thought."-- Francois De Fenelon, Archbishop of Cambrai.

It stands Islam on it's head.  I don't have a problem with strict fundamentalists as long as they treat their faith as private property and not try to make me buy it.  Look at the Amish.
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They turned me loose from the nervous hospital.  Said I was well.  Mmm hmm.

Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

His cross, like the ark in the wilderness, is the center around which his people are to encamp; so that they cannot separate into factions, or withdraw from each other, without retiring at the same time from the presence of the cross.
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