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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #35 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 11:02:55 »
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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #36 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 11:24:22 »
McCain is the epitome of a RINO, Erm. He has voted with the Dems to thwart so many good GOP bills, it is mind boggling. His Coup de Gras of course was casting the final no vote (thumbs down) on repealing Obamacare. A disappointment to Republicans for over a decade. A maverick yes, that mostly sides with Dems. In other words, Republican In Name Only.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #37 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 12:25:07 »
Erm, the Trump phenomenon is almost singularly the result of the GOP electorate’s LONG frustration with the GOP Establishment or the GOP Insiders continually campaigning for issues and then getting all squigly in the Congress. We are sick of it. To heck with all of them. Enter the outsider FIGHTER Trump. Not to mention looking back since the election at the astonishing accomplishments of Trump in the face of staggering opposition. “Can do” always trumps unfulfilled campaign promises.
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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #38 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 12:42:07 »
Erm, the Trump phenomenon is almost singularly the result of the GOP electorate’s LONG frustration with the GOP Establishment or the GOP Insiders continually campaigning for issues and then getting all squigly in the Congress. We are sick of it. To heck with all of them. Enter the oitsider FIGHTER Trump. Not to mention looking back since the election at the astonishing accomplishments of Trump in the face of staggering opposition. “Can do” always trumps unfulfilled campaign promises.

I would concur and say it is a bigger middle finger to Republicans running on a Republican agenda and governing like a minority party and not keeping their promises, as it was a middle finger to Obama and the Dems.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #39 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 12:48:05 »
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I understand that. But the Trump phenomenon seems more than that to me. There's a psychological component as well as political.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #40 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 13:07:17 »
Psychologically we are SICK of getting shafted by the Establishment RINOs, lead by McCain and about 5 other alpha RINOS.

Heck yes! We are sick of the same ol’ same ol’. Republicans have a hard time even when they control congress because of the defacto Democrat votes by the RINOs.

Republicans in name only = BAD. A Republican that will do or cause to get done what he promised = GOOD.

Trump has some things left to accomplish, but he WILL get them done in spite of the opposition. We wanted a “can do guy” and we have one, even if he is offensive to some. Heck I’ve been offended by the RINOs for decades. I am confident as we look back Trump will undoubtedly be one of the most successful GOP Presidents in history. And if he can drain the swamp of Rinos and Obama’s insidious DEEP state, it will be a historic Presidency. Will he again insult Little Rocketman? I imagine so. Will he callnout fake news? He darned sure better. Will he pay Kim billions in crated unmarked bills as Obama did with his worthless Iran deal? I don’t think so. In my opinion there was something overwhelmimgly psychologically sick about the Obamamania phenomenon.
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« Reply #41 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 13:47:14 »
Jamie,
I understand that. But the Trump phenomenon seems more than that to me. There's a psychological component as well as political.

Psychologically I am comfortable with the fact that I believe that with him in office he will keep his campaign promises.

That is something that no other pro politician even tries to.

And that he will have the best intentions for all of the US.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #42 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 13:48:35 »
It would be good if I were emperor for life.  Anyone who disagrees sins.

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« Reply #43 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 13:50:43 »
It would be good if I were emperor for life.  Anyone who disagrees sins.

If you are emperor for life would you appoint POTUS to be {POTUS for life.... If so.... I agree  rofl

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #44 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 13:58:32 »
Jaime,
Thank you for explaining your side. You and Texas Conservative have given a better description and explanation than most (and I don't mean just on this forum). I think I have a better understanding as a result. From the discussions I'd had in my area, I think just about any republican would have beat Clinton because she was so bad. But that's just my area. Oh and yes, Obama's cash delivery to Iran was bad!
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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #45 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 14:01:27 »
Ginger Rella,
I agree with that, he sure has kept his campaign promises. I would like for him to also keep the one about releasing his taxes, because that was a campaign promise.
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« Reply #46 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 14:03:16 »
Ginger Rella,
I will grant you that, he sure has kept his campaign promises. I would like for him to also keep it one about releasing his taxes, because that was a campaign promise.

Yes it is.  But why is that important? I do not want to see anyones taxes, myself

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #47 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 14:06:35 »
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For two reasons. It's important because he promised it, since keeping campaign promises is so important, and because it shows he does not think he's above due process.
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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #48 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 14:34:42 »
It would be good if I were emperor for life.  Anyone who disagrees sins.

No, it would not.  You are no longer smug and self satisfied.  I have a septic tank.  I am the one who should be ruler for life.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #49 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 14:49:31 »
Erm, not just any Republican would have beaten Hillary. First off they would have had to win the GOP nomination. Secondly if they were Establishment types like most were, i think a big part of the GOP electorate would’ve stayed home in frustration.

Hillary was destined and actually won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Not to mention that Dems stick together much more than Republicans. Trump energized the Republicans and independents just enough in the right places to win the electoral college vote. Trump won states that Republicans had written off for 30 + years. He was the energizer bunny and Hillary coasted. I honestly don’t know of any of the other GOP candidates that would’ve faired as well. Thankfully Trump worked hard enough to win and keep Hillary away from any SCOTUS nominations, which is why the Left has lost its collective mind over in the past year and 1/2.
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For two reasons. It's important because he promised it, since keeping campaign promises is so important, and because it shows he does not think he's above due process.

First, is his audit over? He said after it was over.

Next , where does due process come in? I was not aware that it was a legal requirement to release your taxes.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #51 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 15:02:30 »
It would be good if I were emperor for life.  Anyone who disagrees sins.

but those who believe you shouldn't be emperor sin if they let you become emperor.


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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #52 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 15:09:50 »
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            I don't know if it's over. It appears to that he never intended to release it from the beginning. I leave it open that my impression can turn out to be incorrect and if he does, I will be the first to admit I was wrong.

Regarding the due process, I think you're right. I was remembering after I posted that it was done voluntarily for so long in response to something that had happened in the past, so I retract that one. In which case he should have said, "I don't have to and am not going to."

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #53 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 15:10:35 »
Jamie,
Good point. You seem to know more about the numbers than I do.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #54 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 15:10:41 »
I want to stress this portion of the OP

Remember James wrote that failing to do the right thing is a sin.  So, is voting the right thing? Is not voting a sin? I’ll let you make the final decision on that.
I think I’ve made a pretty good case for voting.  I believe it is our civic duty, as well as our God-given privilege, to cast our vote in the election.  (It is a sin not to vote), However, with that said, remember that God loves you. He loves you whether or not you vote.  He won’t love you more if you vote.  And, He won’t love you less if you do not vote.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #55 on: Fri Jun 29, 2018 - 13:34:04 »
Texas Conservative is correct.  Since we moved to where we are on a sewer system and no longer have a septic tank, I'm no longer qualified to be emperor. He has a septic tank, so he's the man! 

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  but those who believe you shouldn't be emperor sin if they let you become emperor.
  You're right.  Not having a septic tank disqualifies me.  I feel like less of a man without one.  I now support Texas Conservative as our Rightful Emperor For Life.  He's smug, self-satisfied and ready to serve!  Are you now supporting his rightful claim, or are you going to pridefully glory in apostasy? 

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« Reply #56 on: Fri Jun 29, 2018 - 17:14:39 »
Texas Conservative is correct.  Since we moved to where we are on a sewer system and no longer have a septic tank, I'm no longer qualified to be emperor. He has a septic tank, so he's the man! 

godsquadgeek said   You're right.  Not having a septic tank disqualifies me.  I feel like less of a man without one.  I now support Texas Conservative as our Rightful Emperor For Life.  He's smug, self-satisfied and ready to serve!  Are you now supporting his rightful claim, or are you going to pridefully glory in apostasy?

well if this were a real election I would read the voter guide mailed to me on the stances of texas conservative, and if they were pro christian, pro life, and pro family, I would vote for him.  If his answers were abstained (which is a bad sign), or if his stances are sinful, then it would be sinful to vote for a sinful person (sin of commission, or doing the wrong thing).  Or on another note it would be the sin of omission (not doing the right thing), if I abstained from voting at all.

see what I mean?

for further reading, some voter guide sites that I use:



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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #57 on: Fri Jun 29, 2018 - 17:31:35 »
Ginger Rella,
I agree with that, he sure has kept his campaign promises. I would like for him to also keep the one about releasing his taxes, because that was a campaign promise.

but that is personal.  Tell me one democrat that makes millions, that released anything close to resembling their taxes.  it's personal, that a no no.

you don't make someone give their taxes, unless you actually have evidence of wrong doing.  And by evidence I don't mean fake news.

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« Reply #58 on: Fri Jun 29, 2018 - 19:30:29 »
but that is personal.  Tell me one democrat that makes millions, that released anything close to resembling their taxes.  it's personal, that a no no.

you don't make someone give their taxes, unless you actually have evidence of wrong doing.  And by evidence I don't mean fake news.

that is true... but I am certain that was the reason they wanted to see his. Looking for something wrong.

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« Reply #59 on: Sat Jun 30, 2018 - 07:35:51 »
that is true... but I am certain that was the reason they wanted to see his. Looking for something wrong.

yes, but like I said taxes are extremely personal.  no one wants the world to see personal information about themselves.  There is a small thing, called privacy. 

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« Reply #60 on: Sat Jun 30, 2018 - 07:58:05 »
yes, but like I said taxes are extremely personal.  no one wants the world to see personal information about themselves.  There is a small thing, called privacy.

Absolutely  +1

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #61 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 13:47:36 »
read this interesting preface.  I'm not going to question someone else's decision to vote or not.  It is wrong, imo, to say someone sins by abstaining.  Being a good Christian, and all, I will simply admit to the truthfulness of Texas Conservative's rightful claim to be emperor for life.  I won't say someone will be cast into the gaping maw for denying his rightful claim.  I will ask you, though, why take the chance?

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« Reply #62 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 15:04:01 »
read this interesting preface.  I'm not going to question someone else's decision to vote or not.  It is wrong, imo, to say someone sins by abstaining.  Being a good Christian, and all, I will simply admit to the truthfulness of Texas Conservative's rightful claim to be emperor for life.  I won't say someone will be cast into the gaping maw for denying his rightful claim.  I will ask you, though, why take the chance?


what if everyone abstained?  What would be the implications of the verse that says "be the light of the world?"  At this point one may say that not everyone abstains.  But at that point we may ask How is it right for some and not for all to abstain?  The comment above has serious logical errors in my opinion. 

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #63 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 16:57:28 »
If you are a liberal and you don't vote, then you are doing a righteous thing.

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« Reply #64 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 17:46:03 »
If you are a liberal and you don't vote, then you are doing a righteous thing.

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however we welcome all people to do the right thing and vote their conscience. 

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #65 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 20:28:52 »
::laughinghisterically::

however we welcome all people to do the right thing and vote their conscience.

I hate "get out the vote" campaigns.  Most of those that need encouragement to vote are morons.

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« Reply #66 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 20:49:52 »
I hate "get out the vote" campaigns.  Most of those that need encouragement to vote are morons.

only 35% to 45% of evangelicals voted for Trump (total evangelicals in america).  If you modify evangelical, as "white evangelical"  then the number goes to 80%.  But the point is that you are calling millions of evangelicals morons here.  I don't think they are moronic, as much as they simply don't understand the importance of their vote, and/or are in the crowd that says "I don't like any candidate 100% therefore God excuses me from voting"

which is wrong.

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Re: Not voting is a sin of omission
« Reply #67 on: Wed Jul 04, 2018 - 08:38:06 »
I agree. Somewhere along the line voting for some became a 100% agree thing or nothing and that makes absolutely NO sense to me. EVERY selection (election) in life we participate in daily never involves 100% or nothing. When we go to the grocery store, we never find the perfect banana. We settle for something less than ideal, yet when we select a leader among imperfect humans, some think they are affronting God himself if the candidate is not Jesus reincarnated. And that their vote for this imperfect human is forever engraved in the Lamb’s book of life, open for all eternity for the heavenly hosts to give an eternal thumbs up or thumbs down.
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« Reply #68 on: Wed Jul 04, 2018 - 08:52:59 »
I agree. Somewhere along the line voting dor some became a 100% agree thing or nothing and that makes absolutely NO sense to me. EVERY selection (election) in life we participate in daily never involves 100% or nothing. When we go to the grocery store, we never find the perfect banana. We settle for something less than ideal, yet when we select a leader among imperfect humans, some think they are affronting God himself if the candidate is not Jesus reincarnated. And that their vote for this imperfect human is forever engraved in the Lamb’s book of life, open for all eternity for the heavenly hosts to give an eternal thumbs up or thumbs down.

it's the all or nothing mentality, which can be deceiving.

good post.

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« Reply #69 on: Thu Jul 05, 2018 - 14:19:59 »
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what if everyone abstained?  What would be the implications of the verse that says "be the light of the world?"  At this point one may say that not everyone abstains.  But at that point we may ask How is it right for some and not for all to abstain?  The comment above has serious logical errors in my opinion.


So what if everyone abstains?  That doesn't tell me about the people abstaining but what they think about the candidates.  How is it right for some and not for all to abstain?, you ask.  The answer is rather simple.  Some will see someone they'd like to vote for and others won't.  I find the idea that one was being the light of the world by voting for Clump to be rather asinine.  All it meant was that someone voted.  both of Clump lost me when they agreed that your name being on a secret list means your constitutional rights can be violated.  article  And someone sinned by just staying home instead of voting for this excrement?  Yeah, right.
 



 

     
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