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« on: March 01, 2008, 10:57:01 AM »

Obama's Mentor was Former Communist Leader

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.

However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.

Obama's communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency. In the latest Real Clear Politics poll average, Obama beats Republican John McCain by almost four percentage points.

AIM recently disclosed that Obama has well-documented socialist connections, which help explain why he sponsored a "Global Poverty Act" designed to send hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S. foreign aid to the rest of the world, in order to meet U.N. demands. The bill has passed the House and a Senate committee, and awaits full Senate action.

But the Communist Party connection through Davis is even more ominous. Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. Government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union.

Full article at http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 03:39:39 PM »

So that makes Obama a communist?

 
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The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 04:08:24 PM »

So that makes Obama a communist?

 
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The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."

I realize that you are mezmorized by Barack Hussein Obama and that in your eyes he can do no wrong. But I choose to keep a close walk with reality and look at what he says he'll do and what his history is. Look at his policies and you'll see that it's not at all a stretch. It's not like it's against the law to be a communist. He is what he is. You act like what I'm saying is so awful that it can't be true, but I'm convinced that if he called a press conference and said, "I am a communist" that you and others who think he's so wonderful would simply embrace communism rather than turn away from Barack.

You need to read the entire article and also look at what Obama proposes. Remember, this is the guy who wants the U.S. to pay a global tax to the U.N. His idea of creating jobs is government programs as he said in a speech last week. He said he will raise taxes. Those things are giant leaps toward socialism/communism. Then of course, you have to read and learn about Obama's history. The article I linked to from Accuracy in Media had that information, but you must not have read it (I'm not getting onto you for that, but you shouldn't have posted that question when the article answered your question). Is Obama a philosophical communist? Apparently so. This is from the article:

The communists knew who "Frank" was, and they know who Obama is. In fact, one academic who travels in communist circles understands the significance of the Davis-Obama relationship.

Professor Gerald Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, talked about it during a speech last March at the reception of the Communist Party USA archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University. The remarks are posted online under the headline, "Rethinking the History and Future of the Communist Party."

Horne, a history professor at the University of Houston, noted that Davis, who moved to Honolulu from Kansas in 1948 "at the suggestion of his good friend Paul Robeson," came into contact with Barack Obama and his family and became the young man's mentor, influencing Obama's sense of identity and career moves. Robeson, of course, was the well-known black actor and singer who served as a member of the CPUSA and apologist for the old Soviet Union. Davis had known Robeson from his time in Chicago.

As Horne describes it, Davis "befriended" a "Euro-American family" that had "migrated to Honolulu from Kansas and a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from Kenya East Africa who goes by the name of Barack Obama, who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago."

It was in Chicago that Obama became a "community organizer" and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International (SI), and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), William Ayers and Carl Davidson.

The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization. Ayers was a member of the terrorist group and turned himself in to authorities in 1981. He is now a college professor and served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Davidson is now a figure in the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, an offshoot of the old Moscow-controlled CPUSA, and helped organize the 2002 rally where Obama came out against the Iraq War.


There's more....just bother to read the article.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 08:25:24 AM »

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Decades ago, the CPUSA had tens of thousands of members, some of them covert agents who had penetrated the U.S. Government. It received secret subsidies from the old Soviet Union.

Fascinating article up until I read that part.  Geez, McCarthyism went out of fashion years ago.   Rolling on floor laughing
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 09:18:48 AM »

So are you saying that is not true? If so, what quantifiable information do you have to say that soviets were not providing some money to the Communist Party USA?
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2008, 11:00:39 PM »

So are you saying that is not true? If so, what quantifiable information do you have to say that soviets were not providing some money to the Communist Party USA?

It IS true.  FBI - Operation Solo.  It started back in the early 1950's....I'm not sure how long or if it's still going on.  I would imagine so.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 08:49:02 AM »

Anyone supporting Obama, and/or considering voting for him, is obligated to the free country they live in and know as America to thoroughly, and with an open mind, investigate these claims. To do otherwise is sheer stupidity and foolishness.

The fact is that all of the general American public doesn't know enough about this man Obama to place him in the office President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of our military. Not nearly enough.  "We didn't know..." ignorance will be no excuse in hindsight.

One thing to consider: if this man Barak Hussein Obama is elected, and he does more to harm this country than to aid her (a sure thing, IMO), it will permanently damage the relationships between races in this country and destroy all future hope for legitimate leaders of color. Is he worth that? No, of course not. No one person is worth that.

Don't throw it all away on some unknown charismatic speaker.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 09:50:56 AM »

Anyone supporting Obama, and/or considering voting for him, is obligated to the free country they live in and know as America to thoroughly, and with an open mind, investigate these claims. To do otherwise is sheer stupidity and foolishness.

The fact is that all of the general American public doesn't know enough about this man Obama to place him in the office President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of our military. Not nearly enough.  "We didn't know..." ignorance will be no excuse in hindsight.

One thing to consider: if this man Barak Hussein Obama is elected, and he does more to harm this country than to aid her (a sure thing, IMO), it will permanently damage the relationships between races in this country and destroy all future hope for legitimate leaders of color. Is he worth that? No, of course not. No one person is worth that.

Don't throw it all away on some unknown charismatic speaker.


How do you come to this conclusion? Any black person trying to run for president in the future will be destroyed just like they are trying to destroy Obama now.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 10:04:30 AM »

Anyone supporting Obama, and/or considering voting for him, is obligated to the free country they live in and know as America to thoroughly, and with an open mind, investigate these claims. To do otherwise is sheer stupidity and foolishness.

The fact is that all of the general American public doesn't know enough about this man Obama to place him in the office President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of our military. Not nearly enough.  "We didn't know..." ignorance will be no excuse in hindsight.

One thing to consider: if this man Barak Hussein Obama is elected, and he does more to harm this country than to aid her (a sure thing, IMO), it will permanently damage the relationships between races in this country and destroy all future hope for legitimate leaders of color. Is he worth that? No, of course not. No one person is worth that.

Don't throw it all away on some unknown charismatic speaker.


How do you come to this conclusion? Any black person trying to run for president in the future will be destroyed just like they are trying to destroy Obama now.

WHOA! That is SO not true! There are MANY trustworthy candidates who happen to be people of color who would receive huge support. I've been waiting for JC Watts to get back into politics in a serious way. He has "President" written all over him! Condi has always had my vote. Alan Keyes has a small, but solid, following here. So many more.

Don't give us that whiney victim stuff. It simply isn't true.


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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 10:07:13 AM »

Anyone supporting Obama, and/or considering voting for him, is obligated to the free country they live in and know as America to thoroughly, and with an open mind, investigate these claims. To do otherwise is sheer stupidity and foolishness.

The fact is that all of the general American public doesn't know enough about this man Obama to place him in the office President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of our military. Not nearly enough.  "We didn't know..." ignorance will be no excuse in hindsight.

One thing to consider: if this man Barak Hussein Obama is elected, and he does more to harm this country than to aid her (a sure thing, IMO), it will permanently damage the relationships between races in this country and destroy all future hope for legitimate leaders of color. Is he worth that? No, of course not. No one person is worth that.

Don't throw it all away on some unknown charismatic speaker.


How do you come to this conclusion? Any black person trying to run for president in the future will be destroyed just like they are trying to destroy Obama now.

Support and vote for the person because they have good things to offer, not because of color, gender, or even religious affiliation. Supporting Obama just because he is black is reverse racism. And not very smart.
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2008, 12:20:27 PM »

Anyone supporting Obama, and/or considering voting for him, is obligated to the free country they live in and know as America to thoroughly, and with an open mind, investigate these claims. To do otherwise is sheer stupidity and foolishness.

The fact is that all of the general American public doesn't know enough about this man Obama to place him in the office President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of our military. Not nearly enough.  "We didn't know..." ignorance will be no excuse in hindsight.

One thing to consider: if this man Barak Hussein Obama is elected, and he does more to harm this country than to aid her (a sure thing, IMO), it will permanently damage the relationships between races in this country and destroy all future hope for legitimate leaders of color. Is he worth that? No, of course not. No one person is worth that.

Don't throw it all away on some unknown charismatic speaker.


How do you come to this conclusion? Any black person trying to run for president in the future will be destroyed just like they are trying to destroy Obama now.

Support and vote for the person because they have good things to offer, not because of color, gender, or even religious affiliation. Supporting Obama just because he is black is reverse racism. And not very smart.


Why would obama being president affect or damage race relationships in this country?
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2008, 04:43:45 PM »

just happen to see this post on the home page.
I usually avoid political discussions, but ...

what about these two men?

Alan Keyes

J. C. Watts

how do they enter into this discussion?

either would make a great running mate for McCain, and next be groomed for later president?!
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2008, 10:16:24 PM »

Anyone supporting Obama, and/or considering voting for him, is obligated to the free country they live in and know as America to thoroughly, and with an open mind, investigate these claims. To do otherwise is sheer stupidity and foolishness.

The fact is that all of the general American public doesn't know enough about this man Obama to place him in the office President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of our military. Not nearly enough.  "We didn't know..." ignorance will be no excuse in hindsight.

One thing to consider: if this man Barak Hussein Obama is elected, and he does more to harm this country than to aid her (a sure thing, IMO), it will permanently damage the relationships between races in this country and destroy all future hope for legitimate leaders of color. Is he worth that? No, of course not. No one person is worth that.

Don't throw it all away on some unknown charismatic speaker.


How do you come to this conclusion? Any black person trying to run for president in the future will be destroyed just like they are trying to destroy Obama now.

Support and vote for the person because they have good things to offer, not because of color, gender, or even religious affiliation. Supporting Obama just because he is black is reverse racism. And not very smart.


Why would obama being president affect or damage race relationships in this country?

Because he isn't walking the talk.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2008, 10:19:00 PM »

just happen to see this post on the home page.
I usually avoid political discussions, but ...

what about these two men?

Alan Keyes

J. C. Watts

how do they enter into this discussion?

either would make a great running mate for McCain, and next be groomed for later president?!

I was disappointed when J.C. took time away from politics for his family. I'm hoping he was preparing for stepping back in. Anytime he's ready...
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2008, 06:16:26 PM »

I really like J C Watts.  Here's a link to the current petition going around to aks McCain to pick him as the VP candidate:

 http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/draftjcwattsforvp2008/

He debates well and is a master at economics. 
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