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Obama's speech to the schools
« on: Sat Sep 05, 2009 - 18:39:00 »
This is about to happen.   Just wondering what people around here are thinking/feeling about this. 

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« Reply #1 on: Sat Sep 05, 2009 - 20:48:16 »
 He is not worthy of our trust.

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« Reply #2 on: Sun Sep 06, 2009 - 22:02:51 »

Romans 13:6  For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

Romans 13:7  Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

I reckon we could enter a court and not remove our hat, not stand when the judge entered and so on just because we didn't like the judge.

And we do this not because of the person, but because God told us to. Romans 13:5  Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
 
We can cover the children's ears, we can put our heads in the sand and ban to ourselves what is coming to pass, but why are we reading of these things ourselves? Oh the shame of it all.  ::cryingtears::

My thoughts in Jesus' name - larry2 


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Re: Obama's speech to the schools
« Reply #3 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 09:39:35 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".


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« Reply #4 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 12:18:13 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?

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« Reply #5 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 14:21:55 »
Because the law does not require our children listen to this I don't believe there is anything wrong with our having our children "skip" this event.

So far in this country the beauty of this government is that we have freedom.


As a Parent God commands me to raise my children in the way they should go.    I don't believe the indoctrination is the way I want them to go.   
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« Reply #6 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 15:05:48 »
Because the law does not require our children listen to this I don't believe there is anything wrong with our having our children "skip" this event.

So far in this country the beauty of this government is that we have freedom.


As a Parent God commands me to raise my children in the way they should go.    I don't believe the indoctrination is the way I want them to go.   

So, who's suggested you don't have that right? 

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« Reply #7 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 15:08:28 »
I cannot figure out why Larry2 posted the scripture he did.  It really has no place on this thread.   ???


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« Reply #8 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 15:11:08 »
Well, The text of the speech has been released, and it's chock full of communist Nazi propaganda.  


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Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama
Back to School Event

Arlington, Virginia
September 8, 2009
 

The President: Hello everyone – how’s everybody doing today? I’m here with students at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. And we’ve got students tuning in from all across America, kindergarten through twelfth grade. I’m glad you all could join us today.

I know that for many of you, today is the first day of school. And for those of you in kindergarten, or starting middle or high school, it’s your first day in a new school, so it’s understandable if you’re a little nervous. I imagine there are some seniors out there who are feeling pretty good right now, with just one more year to go. And no matter what grade you’re in, some of you are probably wishing it were still summer, and you could’ve stayed in bed just a little longer this morning.

I know that feeling. When I was young, my family lived in Indonesia for a few years, and my mother didn’t have the money to send me where all the American kids went to school. So she decided to teach me extra lessons herself, Monday through Friday – at 4:30 in the morning.  

Now I wasn’t too happy about getting up that early. A lot of times, I’d fall asleep right there at the kitchen table. But whenever I’d complain, my mother would just give me one of those looks and say, "This is no picnic for me either, buster."

So I know some of you are still adjusting to being back at school. But I’m here today because I have something important to discuss with you. I’m here because I want to talk with you about your education and what’s expected of all of you in this new school year.

Now I’ve given a lot of speeches about education. And I’ve talked a lot about responsibility.

I’ve talked about your teachers’ responsibility for inspiring you, and pushing you to learn.

I’ve talked about your parents’ responsibility for making sure you stay on track, and get your homework done, and don’t spend every waking hour in front of the TV or with that Xbox.

I’ve talked a lot about your government’s responsibility for setting high standards, supporting teachers and principals, and turning around schools that aren’t working where students aren’t getting the opportunities they deserve.

But at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world – and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.

And that’s what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education. I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself.

Every single one of you has something you’re good at. Every single one of you has something to offer. And you have a responsibility to yourself to discover what that is. That’s the opportunity an education can provide.

Maybe you could be a good writer – maybe even good enough to write a book or articles in a newspaper – but you might not know it until you write a paper for your English class. Maybe you could be an innovator or an inventor – maybe even good enough to come up with the next iPhone or a new medicine or vaccine – but you might not know it until you do a project for your science class. Maybe you could be a mayor or a Senator or a Supreme Court Justice, but you might not know that until you join student government or the debate team.

And no matter what you want to do with your life – I guarantee that you’ll need an education to do it. You want to be a doctor, or a teacher, or a police officer? You want to be a nurse or an architect, a lawyer or a member of our military? You’re going to need a good education for every single one of those careers. You can’t drop out of school and just drop into a good job. You’ve got to work for it and train for it and learn for it.

And this isn’t just important for your own life and your own future. What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. What you’re learning in school today will determine whether we as a nation can meet our greatest challenges in the future.

You’ll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free. You’ll need the creativity and ingenuity you develop in all your classes to build new companies that will create new jobs and boost our economy.

We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don’t do that – if you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country.
Now I know it’s not always easy to do well in school. I know a lot of you have challenges in your lives right now that can make it hard to focus on your schoolwork.
I get it. I know what that’s like. My father left my family when I was two years old, and I was raised by a single mother who struggled at times to pay the bills and wasn’t always able to give us things the other kids had. There were times when I missed having a father in my life. There were times when I was lonely and felt like I didn’t fit in.

So I wasn’t always as focused as I should have been. I did some things I’m not proud of, and got in more trouble than I should have. And my life could have easily taken a turn for the worse.

But I was fortunate. I got a lot of second chances and had the opportunity to go to college, and law school, and follow my dreams. My wife, our First Lady Michelle Obama, has a similar story. Neither of her parents had gone to college, and they didn’t have much. But they worked hard, and she worked hard, so that she could go to the best schools in this country.

Some of you might not have those advantages. Maybe you don’t have adults in your life who give you the support that you need. Maybe someone in your family has lost their job, and there’s not enough money to go around. Maybe you live in a neighborhood where you don’t feel safe, or have friends who are pressuring you to do things you know aren’t right.

But at the end of the day, the circumstances of your life – what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you’ve got going on at home – that’s no excuse for neglecting your homework or having a bad attitude. That’s no excuse for talking back to your teacher, or cutting class, or dropping out of school. That’s no excuse for not trying.

Where you are right now doesn’t have to determine where you’ll end up. No one’s written your destiny for you. Here in America, you write your own destiny. You make your own future.

That’s what young people like you are doing every day, all across America.
Young people like Jazmin Perez, from Roma, Texas. Jazmin didn’t speak English when she first started school. Hardly anyone in her hometown went to college, and neither of her parents had gone either. But she worked hard, earned good grades, got a scholarship to Brown University, and is now in graduate school, studying public health, on her way to being Dr. Jazmin Perez.

I’m thinking about Andoni Schultz, from Los Altos, California, who’s fought brain cancer since he was three. He’s endured all sorts of treatments and surgeries, one of which affected his memory, so it took him much longer – hundreds of extra hours – to do his schoolwork. But he never fell behind, and he’s headed to college this fall.
And then there’s Shantell Steve, from my hometown of Chicago, Illinois. Even when bouncing from foster home to foster home in the toughest neighborhoods, she managed to get a job at a local health center; start a program to keep young people out of gangs; and she’s on track to graduate high school with honors and go on to college.

Jazmin, Andoni and Shantell aren’t any different from any of you. They faced challenges in their lives just like you do. But they refused to give up. They chose to take responsibility for their education and set goals for themselves. And I expect all of you to do the same.

That’s why today, I’m calling on each of you to set your own goals for your education – and to do everything you can to meet them. Your goal can be something as simple as doing all your homework, paying attention in class, or spending time each day reading a book. Maybe you’ll decide to get involved in an extracurricular activity, or volunteer in your community. Maybe you’ll decide to stand up for kids who are being teased or bullied because of who they are or how they look, because you believe, like I do, that all kids deserve a safe environment to study and learn. Maybe you’ll decide to take better care of yourself so you can be more ready to learn. And along those lines, I hope you’ll all wash your hands a lot, and stay home from school when you don’t feel well, so we can keep people from getting the flu this fall and winter.

Whatever you resolve to do, I want you to commit to it. I want you to really work at it.

I know that sometimes, you get the sense from TV that you can be rich and successful without any hard work -- that your ticket to success is through rapping or basketball or being a reality TV star, when chances are, you’re not going to be any of those things.

But the truth is, being successful is hard. You won’t love every subject you study. You won’t click with every teacher. Not every homework assignment will seem completely relevant to your life right this minute. And you won’t necessarily succeed at everything the first time you try.

That’s OK.  Some of the most successful people in the world are the ones who’ve had the most failures. JK Rowling’s first Harry Potter book was rejected twelve times before it was finally published. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team, and he lost hundreds of games and missed thousands of shots during his career. But he once said, "I have failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."

These people succeeded because they understand that you can’t let your failures define you – you have to let them teach you. You have to let them show you what to do differently next time. If you get in trouble, that doesn’t mean you’re a troublemaker, it means you need to try harder to behave. If you get a bad grade, that doesn’t mean you’re stupid, it just means you need to spend more time studying.

No one’s born being good at things, you become good at things through hard work. You’re not a varsity athlete the first time you play a new sport. You don’t hit every note the first time you sing a song. You’ve got to practice. It’s the same with your schoolwork. You might have to do a math problem a few times before you get it right, or read something a few times before you understand it, or do a few drafts of a paper before it’s good enough to hand in.

Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Don’t be afraid to ask for help when you need it. I do that every day. Asking for help isn’t a sign of weakness, it’s a sign of strength. It shows you have the courage to admit when you don’t know something, and to learn something new. So find an adult you trust – a parent, grandparent or teacher; a coach or counselor – and ask them to help you stay on track to meet your goals.
And even when you’re struggling, even when you’re discouraged, and you feel like other people have given up on you – don’t ever give up on yourself. Because when you give up on yourself, you give up on your country.

The story of America isn’t about people who quit when things got tough. It’s about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best.

It’s the story of students who sat where you sit 250 years ago, and went on to wage a revolution and found this nation. Students who sat where you sit 75 years ago who overcame a Depression and won a world war; who fought for civil rights and put a man on the moon. Students who sat where you sit 20 years ago who founded Google, Twitter and Facebook and changed the way we communicate with each other.

So today, I want to ask you, what’s your contribution going to be? What problems are you going to solve? What discoveries will you make? What will a president who comes here in twenty or fifty or one hundred years say about what all of you did for this country?  

Your families, your teachers, and I are doing everything we can to make sure you have the education you need to answer these questions. I’m working hard to fix up your classrooms and get you the books, equipment and computers you need to learn. But you’ve got to do your part too. So I expect you to get serious this year. I expect you to put your best effort into everything you do. I expect great things from each of you. So don’t let us down – don’t let your family or your country or yourself down. Make us all proud. I know you can do it.

Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.


Scary, scary stuff.  ::droppingjaw::

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« Reply #9 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 15:16:06 »
"You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free."

THANK YOU MARC!!!!

Above is a direct quote. 

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« Reply #10 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 15:22:00 »
"when you give up on yourself, you give up on your country." ::headscratch::

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« Reply #11 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 16:06:33 »
Sometimes, sarcasm ain't enough.  ::shrug::

I guess the pro-crime, pro-homelessness, pro-discrimination, and pro-poverty lobbies are just going to have to be unhappy.

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« Reply #12 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 17:13:08 »
make our nation more fair and more free."
Here is the part you forgot to mention and the part I am being abused by.

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« Reply #13 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 17:24:52 »
Fairness and freedom are terrible, terrible things.  And goodness knows we don't have any room for improvement!

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« Reply #14 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 17:54:43 »
Obama's idea of fair,

A grown  married woman's decision to have her baby aborted in the 9th month because she want to go to Hawaii next month and forcing me to pay for it.  

Obama's idea of freedom,

I work outside in the Mississippi sun 60-70 hrs per week.   I have the "freedom" to keep less than half of what I earned.  If I am fortunate enough to put aside some wealth Obama does not want me to do decide to give it to my children he wants to decide who gets my savings.  

Example of the two combined,

A doctor is a christian and is forced to both preform an abortion and pay for it.

Yep Obama's fair and free country
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« Reply #15 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:09:44 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued. 

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« Reply #16 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:31:31 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued. 


It sounds as though you prefer to do as you wish rather than as God has commanded.

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 Gee John the Baptist, Elijah, and Jesus himself sure spoke against wrong authority. Please you people spirit of the law, or a commentary for help. We do not obey the Government.

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« Reply #18 on: Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 23:04:41 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued. 


It sounds as though you prefer to do as you wish rather than as God has commanded.


Hum, Hum, Hum, kMV, I guess Rosa Parks, MLK, and others that marched in civil disobedience were sinning too?

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Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued. 


It sounds as though you prefer to do as you wish rather than as God has commanded.


Hum, Hum, Hum, kMV, I guess Rosa Parks, MLK, and others that marched in civil disobedience were sinning too?

I don't think that's true.  Nonetheless, I sure wouldn't deny that Paul's commandment to obey and respect the civil authorities applies to me.

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« Reply #20 on: Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 10:42:03 »
I sent my son to school with a straight jacket and a block of wood to gnaw on.

he can be restrained, have eyes sewn open a la Clockwork Orange and SEEEEEEEEE The Ultra Violence

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« Reply #21 on: Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 10:53:48 »
I sent my son to school with a straight jacket and a block of wood to gnaw on.

he can be restrained, have eyes sewn open a la Clockwork Orange and SEEEEEEEEE The Ultra Violence



 rofl

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« Reply #22 on: Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 11:44:43 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued.  


It sounds as though you prefer to do as you wish rather than as God has commanded.


Hum, Hum, Hum, kMV, I guess Rosa Parks, MLK, and others that marched in civil disobedience were sinning too?

I don't think that's true.  Nonetheless, I sure wouldn't deny that Paul's commandment to obey and respect the civil authorities applies to me.

So KMV, why do you think it was okay for Martin Luther King, Jr. and Rosa Parks to disobey the government because they thought the government was wrongly using their authority but not for those who disagree with Obama?

That's clearly a double standard.

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« Reply #23 on: Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 12:10:58 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued. 


It sounds as though you prefer to do as you wish rather than as God has commanded.


Hum, Hum, Hum, kMV, I guess Rosa Parks, MLK, and others that marched in civil disobedience were sinning too?

I don't think that's true.  Nonetheless, I sure wouldn't deny that Paul's commandment to obey and respect the civil authorities applies to me.

So KMV, why do you think it was okay for Martin Luther King, Jr. and Rosa Parks to disobey the government because they thought the government was wrongly using their authority but not for those who disagree with Obama?

That's clearly a double standard.

I'm not saying that obedience to the authorities is never superceded by a more basic command (although civil disobedience isn't the first resort).

I'm saying that reflects a bad understanding of the scriptures to teach that Paul's command to obey and honor the civil authorities was only a cultural thing and not obligatory for us today.

Lee, do you really think that Romans 13 was only cultural?

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« Reply #24 on: Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 08:32:00 »
Honor is earned, not owed.

Paul was speaking to the Roman church, not even to all Romans.  Be very careful when attempting to transfer what was spoken to the Roman church to all Christians everywhere for all time.

It also says "fear to whom fear".



You truly believe that God, through Paul, commanded the church to honor & obey the very authorities who were murdering them, but does not expect us to honor & obey the authorities He has placed on us?



I believe Paul wanted the church to be safe from persecution.

I don't think he told them to honor those who were killing them.  "Fear to whom fear" tells me there were some of whom they were to be very afraid.  History tells us this was a fact.  "Honor to whom honor" lets me know that there are some who were simply not worthy of honor.  If I honor the unworthy, then honor has lost all meaning, all integrity, and has been completely devalued. 


It sounds as though you prefer to do as you wish rather than as God has commanded.


Nice try.

IMO, Paul is saying 'Use the God-given brain in your head.  Obey the laws of the land and you will be safe.  If the leaders are worthy, honor them.  If they are not worthy, fear them"

Sorry the whole counsel of Paul to the Roman church doesn't fit neatly into your liberal agenda.

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Re: Obama's speech to the schools
« Reply #25 on: Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 10:09:10 »
All the speach did was to give people something to talk about  (a distraction from service)
Obama's speach was no big deal....You have just been sucked into a meaningless debate.
Obama's message was simple and the same one parents should give to their children about school.

And if anyone reads my post....I am very critical of our leaders actions

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Re: Obama's speech to the schools
« Reply #26 on: Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:05:46 »
All the speech did was to give people something to talk about (a distraction from service)
Obama's speach was no big deal....You have just been sucked into a meaningless debate.
Obama's message was simple and the same one parents should give to their children about school.

And if anyone reads my post....I am very critical of our leaders actions

Well, you maybe correct, but, the speech was changed I am sure,as was the mandatory indoctrination packets given to the children after the speech. You know the packets the president did not know about?

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Re: Obama's speech to the schools
« Reply #27 on: Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:25:34 »

Wouldn't watching something a person didn't want their children to watch be sort of hypocritical?

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Re: Obama's speech to the schools
« Reply #28 on: Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:32:57 »

Wouldn't watching something a person didn't want their children to watch be sort of hypocritical?

In Jesus' name - larry2



 Hi Larry, no not exactly. Children are the most impressionable, innocent minded. The part of their brain dealing with judgment, and critical thinking is not fully developed until after twenty one Why do you think children under eighteen, cannot work with dangerous machinery? That is the same reason, before you let your kids here from the dangerous political machine, parents review if it is harmful or not. ::tippinghat::