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« on: November 06, 2009, 07:23:58 PM »

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cb3f2e32-cb16-11de-97e0-00144feabdc0.html

Wouldn't want to "insult or offend" Muslims would we?.. He would have to go apologize across the world again..


Although the guy said his goodbyes and scream Allahu Akbar while shooting, we need not rush to judgement. Although he is a Muslim who is against the "criminal" war against Islam, we mustn't react to this... Yea, right. I can't help but to think, why Obama is reacting this way.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 09:27:59 AM »

Just because one man went off the deep end is no reason for the rest of us to follow.

Remember Whose you are, and let your words reflect that.

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 10:12:38 AM »

 Yes Phoebe you are right, I just hate how he acts, and how people buy into it, but , I need to remember my station in life. BTW, the man did not go off the deep end it was an act of terrorism.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 01:21:50 PM »

Take notice of when major events like this occurs as far back as the presidency goes, every president has  said something about prayer for the familes/victims when things like this happens. 

Have you heard Obama mention prayer or the word prayer during these castastrophes?. I have not, and neither have my friends.   Think about that one.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 01:38:24 PM »

Yes Phoebe you are right, I just hate how he acts, and how people buy into it, but , I need to remember my station in life. BTW, the man did not go off the deep end it was an act of terrorism.


I think the reality may be more along the lines of both.  Since we don't have all the facts, are not privy to classified information, I think it is wise not to make judgments either way.

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 01:46:43 PM »

The perp is dead, whether his actions were caused by Muslim rage or mental illness.  The question should be "how come this guy wasn't taken care of before this happened?"  From the news, the guy had issues.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 03:40:46 PM »

And the President would be quite right. When we jump to make assumptions about someones motives we make fools of ourselves. Do you remember the Oklahoma city bombing, how quickly people jumped to assume it was a Muslim Terrorist act? Let's withhold judgement and  see what we learn, eh?
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 03:58:50 PM »

The perp is dead, whether his actions were caused by Muslim rage or mental illness.  The question should be "how come this guy wasn't taken care of before this happened?"  From the news, the guy had issues.

My understanding is that the perpetrator is still alive, and in military custody.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 05:28:59 PM »

The perp is dead, whether his actions were caused by Muslim rage or mental illness.  The question should be "how come this guy wasn't taken care of before this happened?"  From the news, the guy had issues.

My understanding is that the perpetrator is still alive, and in military custody.


Right you are.  I think he is in the hospital.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 10:08:43 PM »

Take notice of when major events like this occurs as far back as the presidency goes, every president has  said something about prayer for the familes/victims when things like this happens.  

Have you heard Obama mention prayer or the word prayer during these castastrophes?. I have not, and neither have my friends.   Think about that one.

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You and your friends would do well to do more research before you condemn those God has placed in authority over you.

The text of the President's remarks on Ft Hood:

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"I had planned to make some broader remarks about the challenges that lay ahead for Native Americans as well as collaboration with our administration.

But as some of you might have heard, there has been a tragic shooting at the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. We don't yet know all the details at this moment. We will share them as we get them.

What we do know is that a number of American soldiers have been killed, and even more have been wounded in a horrific outburst of violence.

My immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen and with those who live and serve at Fort Hood.

These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk and at times give their lives to protect the rest of us on a daily basis.

It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas.

It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an Army base on American soil.

I've spoken to Secretary Gates and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, and I will continue to receive a constant stream of updates as new information comes in.

We are working with the Pentagon, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, all to ensure that Fort Hood is secure and we will continue to support the community with the full resources of the federal government. In the meantime, I would ask all Americans to keep the men and women of Fort Hood in your thoughts and prayers. We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident, and I want all of you to know that as commander-in-chief, there's no greater honor, but also no greater responsibility for me than to make sure that the extraordinary men and women in uniform are properly cared for an that their safety and security when they are at home is provided for.

So we are going to stay on this, but I hope in the meantime that all of you recognize the scope of this tragedy and keep everybody in their thoughts and prayers. Again, thank you for your participation here today. I am confident that this is going to be resulting in terrific work between this government and your governments in the weeks, the months and years to come.

God bless you and God bless the United States of America."

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 10:55:44 PM »

You and your friends would do well to do more research before you condemn those God has placed in authority over you.

That is laughable.

God did place Kings and "rulers" in the bible. That is a fact.  But I highly doubt God placed a man like B.O. in the office of the President of the U.S. It was allowed to happen.

If I am wrong, I am wrong. God will let me know. But nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, will convince me otherwise until then.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 11:10:25 PM »

Perhaps the author of the original post could post a short sample of what the president should say about the perpetrator that would be relevant and useful as well as accurate
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 11:18:23 PM »

Perhaps the author of the original post could post a short sample of what the president should say about the perpetrator that would be relevant and useful as well as accurate

Instead of standing in front of the American people and say "Don't rush to judgement", he should have condemned the cowardly act perpetrated by a MUSLIM against our troops on an AMERICAN base on US soil.

It took all of about 1 hour for the Muslim groups here in this country to denounce his action. Our own president couldn't do that hours later. Told us not to rush to judgement.

He is the President Of the United States of America. He should care more about what happens in this country and care less about what the Muslims will think about his "Harsh" words. Well, the muslims and terrorist agree with him anyway. I am sure they were running through the streets firing their AK's screaming Allahu Akbar all night....


This is added later:

This adds to my point of Obama going out of his way to make sure we don't overreact.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225944/Barack-Obama-calls-calm-Muslim-community-voices-fears-Fort-Hood-killings-backlash.html
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2009, 11:49:26 PM »

Okay so your only beef is that Obama didn't adequately condemn this as a Muslim terrorist attack?
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 12:09:31 AM »

You and your friends would do well to do more research before you condemn those God has placed in authority over you.

That is laughable.

God did place Kings and "rulers" in the bible. That is a fact.  But I highly doubt God placed a man like B.O. in the office of the President of the U.S. It was allowed to happen.

If I am wrong, I am wrong. God will let me know. But nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, will convince me otherwise until then.

God has already let you know.  As best I can tell, you just reject His words.

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