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« on: June 17, 2002, 10:41:27 PM »
O.k., Chrischar, you hire all of the blacks and minorities when affirmative action ends and lots of places will not hire them anymore.

P.s. I believed your dog story. :D  :p

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2002, 07:48:44 AM »
Heard about this--apparently scientists agree that animals CAN have racist tendencies, though no one is sure why, particularly given their color-blind nature.  Who knows.  Different characteristics tend to trigger different reactions in animals.  I've never had a problem with animals disliking me for no reason, but sometimes little kids I have never seen come up and hit me for no reason.  Without fail, they say this is because I'm "silly" or some such thing.  As Kiwi philospher Tim Finn said (okay, he was a rock musician) "nobody takes me seriously anyway."

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2002, 02:23:01 AM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (patriciaredstone @ June 18 2002,03:01)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]. I was a victim of racism while living in Naples, Italy as a teenager. I was attacked by a group of communists -- I stood out as American because of my blonde hair and lack of an escort -- they threw bricks and rocks at me ... they didn't even give me a chance to tell them that I would grow up to be a Libertarian which is not too far from where they are, politically speaking.

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The Libertarian Party and Communist Party are on opposite ends of the political spectrum as far as economics, politcal thought, and social theory go.  At least, that is what I gather from reading their literature.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2002, 05:05:44 AM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (patriciaredstone @ June 18 2002,8:31)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Of course you are right, B. H[/quote]
Hey, she learned quick didn't she? :D  :p  ;)

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2002, 07:34:28 PM »
Hi B.H.

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I have heard the argument that the word "women" in Greek used in these "women speaking in the assembly" contexts really should be translated "wives".  Anyone want to start a thread in the "Theology" section to discuss it?[/quote]

There is already a thread in progress that is on women and your question would fit nicely into that thread (theology-women praying).  Why not post it to Bob and let him explain it.  He is quite a Greek scholar and I think he could explain it much better than any of us non-scholars who know just enough to get ourselves in trouble :D

[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Women preachers in the Church of Christ?[/quote]


We've already got one (1-uno-ein-I-.......) -----Katie Hayes.  GO KATIE!!!!!!  We could use a whole lot more like her.  I'm hoping she will be at ACU Lectureship in 2003.  It has been suggested to the powers that be!

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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2002, 06:12:56 PM »
As many of you know, I think it is racist to hire someone just because they are a certain color. Therefore, the joke of a policy that Bill Clinton passed, Affirmitive Action, in my opinion is racist.

With that in mind, I give you this TRUE story.

It happened in McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania, outside of Pittsburgh, a place not far from where I used to live and work. The Associated Press reported that the five-year-old German shepherd, Dolpho, is the lone police dog in the community.

"Dolpho can tell the difference between marijuana, heroin and cocaine. But a borough councilwoman (black) said the dog targets blacks and should be put to death. Dolpho made a mistake last week. While a K-9 officer wrestled with a drug suspect, a door to the K-9 wagon was inadvertently opened. The dog bolted out and bit a 9-year-old boy on the leg, and not the suspect. The boy is black. Police said the dog became confused because there was a lot of noise and yelling. The incident was brought up during a council meeting Monday. No decision was made about Dolpho's fate."

Yes, I know dogs are colorblind, but this story is sad, stupid, and silly enough without even going there. Accusing a colorblind dog of being a racist? Nothing surprises me anymore.

Is it not racial profiling to NOT hire me JUST because I am white. And then, turning around and hiring a black person, JUST because they are black. It's twisted, sad, and, in all honesty, wrong.

Think I am making up the story about the dog? Shame on you! Here is the address to the story http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55010,00.html

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2002, 06:38:54 AM »
I believed your dog story also.

We own a racist dog.  Why?  We have no idea.  We were given him by someone my husband worked with.  He is a perfect, well behaved dog in every way, except this one area.  He either is scared or just doesn't like African-Americans or Hispanics.  It is awful and terribly embarassing.  We have to keep him put up when either is at our house.  He definitely knows the difference.  He acts like he wants to tear their heads off and he has never bitten anyone nor acted this way with anyone else, but blacks and Hispanics, even little kids.

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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2002, 09:01:52 AM »
My dogs love everyone, but I did have a cockatoo who hated men ... and he was a male himself. After I married, my husband presented me with "the choice" (my bird tried to kill him several times ... he still has scars) and I gave him to a single woman. It was hard ... I had to give her instructions on how to fix his coffee, peel his grapes and to never, NEVER give him grub worms even though the books say to because he barfs them up as a love offering on the side of your neck. I miss him so much! After 20 years he is still alive and living in a ritzy Manhattan high-rise apartment. He will not mate. I think he is still carrying the torch ... and so am I.

But, to continue the conversation -- After high-school, I was the first American-born white person -- hired by a Japanese company which had newly opened operations in the United States -- under a very early equal-opportunity act in California. I was the only mother-tongued-English-speaking person in the company! WOW! What an experience! Before OSHA stepped in there were pep-talks (in Japanese) every morning along with mandatory calisthenics and lots of bowing to the guys in suits. It was a great cultural experience even though the lunch room smelled like raw fish.

This was not the first time I have been a minority. I was a victim of racism while living in Naples, Italy as a teenager. I was attacked by a group of communists -- I stood out as American because of my blonde hair and lack of an escort -- they threw bricks and rocks at me ... they didn't even give me a chance to tell them that I would grow up to be a Libertarian which is not too far from where they are, politically speaking.

Also, while living in Seattle, Washington, I was discriminated against for having southern accent. The principal, a state senator, even asked me how it felt to be born in a racist society.

In my church I am discrimated against for my gender. I am not allowed to serve on any committees that decide how my contributions will be spent. I am never consulted about hirings and firings. My thoughts are not considered valid enough to share with males over twelve years old. I have been going to church for 40 years and have never been invited to pray in the assembly.

We ALL know how it feels to be left out. This is why the words of Jesus touch us so, "Fortunate are you when men hate you, and when they exclude you and denounce you ...." We have ALL been there. So much the more, that we should never exclude others. We should "give to everyone who asks and require nothing in return."

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2002, 02:31:40 AM »
Of course you are right, B. H. I was just trying to be funny. Most of my relatives and friends seem to align the two parties though ... I might as well be a communist to them! ???

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2002, 05:19:11 AM »
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (patriciaredstone @ June 18 2002,03:01)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]In my church I am discrimated against for my gender. I am not allowed to serve on any committees that decide how my contributions will be spent. I am never consulted about hirings and firings. My thoughts are not considered valid enough to share with males over twelve years old. I have been going to church for 40 years and have never been invited to pray in the assembly.[/quote]
You go Patriciaredstone!!!!  Show them conservative preachers, elders, deacons, and laymen where the Bible commands women to preach from the pulpit, for women to NOT be silent in the assembly, and where elders and deacons are referred to as "she" in their qualifications (Titus 2, I Timothy 2, I Corinthians, ect.)

I have heard the argument that the word "women" in Greek used in these "women speaking in the assembly" contexts really should be translated "wives".  Anyone want to start a thread in the "Theology" section to discuss it?

Women preachers in the Church of Christ?

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2002, 04:52:53 PM »
My dog gender-profiles.  

She has never, never ever bitten anyone in anger.  It's all a bluff and show, and it works, so she's never needed to.

She knows it's her job to answer the door with me when there's any stranger there, especially a male larger than me, or as in the case of one guy once in Sioux City, a male smaller than me but obviously high on something and carrying a length of pipe in his hand... He suddenly didn't need to speak with me when he saw the dog.

She is extra-watchful of men, even men we love such as relatives and church members.  Male or female doesn't matter, though, if they're drinking or drugging.  She hates that even worse.

She was allowed out to "go pee-pee" once (sorry, that's the verbal command we use; real adult, I know...) about 2 a.m. on a frigid, deep-snow Iowa night, and, disobeying me, bounded down the hill to deliberately knock the beer out of the hand of an inebriated lady who was staggering to her home up the hill from a bar.  She bounced triumphantly back through the drifts, trotted up the walk and came in, head high, ears up, tongue lolling... I hadn't the heart to cuff her.  I'm ashamed now that I didn't leash her & follow the woman up the hill to make sure she got home... It turned out for the best, though, she made it.  No corpse on the sidewalk in the morning.

Something about the "evil" yellow eyes in that red-nosed pit bulldog face really turns away potential evildoers.  Probably turns away others, too, but I trust a dog's sense of smell to pick up drugs, alcohol and misdirected testosterone long before I can...