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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2011, 03:21:49 PM »
Quote from: Johnb on July 02, 2011, 03:10:55 PM
Ron Paul is a Libertarian who runs as a republican to be elected.  He understands the shortcomings of a third party.  That is what will also keep him from being elected president or even getting the republican nomination.  He would not win many conservative dems nor independents and you can not win the presidency with just the votes of either party.

Ron Paul has the independents in his pocket.

Why do people keep saying that he is unelectable without even making valid points.
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2011, 04:35:58 PM »
He won every straw poll last time around and maybe got 5 percent of the primary vote. Straws don't count.
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2011, 04:35:58 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2011, 04:56:45 PM »
Quote from: Jaime on July 02, 2011, 04:35:58 PM

He won every straw poll last time around and maybe got 5 percent of the primary vote. Straws don't count.


At a loss of more than two to one in electoral votes, I do not see that you voted right last time around since I assume you voted for a republican. Didn't God give you the responsibility to get the right person into office, and you didn't? You might as well have just voted for Mickey Mouse. Wouldn't it be better to have voted as a Trojan Horse Democrat or Dino and foul up their plans instead?

Electoral Votes

Obama    365    

McCain   173
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2011, 04:57:12 PM »
Quote from: larry2 on July 02, 2011, 03:08:15 PM
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War is he'll, and we didn't want this one. Even Obama understands we can't wait to be attacked. He and any President with half a brain understands they are sworn to protect the citizens of the US.


A good offensive is the best defense I've always been taught. Let's only vote for someone who will strike first against all those dudes that have even looked wrong at our flag, let alone burned it, all their land, and all their relatives. Every country that cheered when 911 occurred, and anyone affiliated with them. Do we have anyone sworn to do that at the forfeiture of their lives? Otherwise we're wasting our time; they're going to win.

We will win. Especially with the best young people in the world that understand that freedom is not free. And yes an offense IS the best defense, though sometimes offensive especially fighting an entity that doesn't wear uniforms. We will and we must win. And it ain't gonna happen by retreating to our borders and sucking our thumbs holding placards that say, "We're sorry."
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2011, 04:57:12 PM »

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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2011, 05:02:49 PM »
Quote from: larry2 on July 02, 2011, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Jaime on July 02, 2011, 04:35:58 PM

He won every straw poll last time around and maybe got 5 percent of the primary vote. Straws don't count.


At a loss of more than two to one in electoral votes, I do not see that you voted right last time around since I assume you voted for a republican. Didn't God give you the responsibility to get the right person into office, and you didn't? You might as well have just voted for Mickey Mouse. Wouldn't it be better to have voted as a Trojan Horse Democrat or Dino and foul up their plans instead?

Electoral Votes

Obama    365    

McCain   173


It would have been better for you to have voted period. Obama's electoral votes were tallied because of either direct popular votes for him or effective votes for him such as non-votes, or third party votes. Every person in America agrees that the Electoral College system needs to be done away with, especially Al Gore!
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2011, 06:53:41 PM »
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Ron Paul has the independents in his pocket


In what warped alternate universe?  Where is a credible poll showing independents favor Ron Paul? 
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2011, 03:07:11 PM »
Quote from: Johnb on July 02, 2011, 08:39:09 AM
Here are Rick Perry's stated views. http://www.ontheissues.org/rick_perry.htm

Compare that with Obama.  He may not be the most conservative or the ideal candidate for an ultra conservative but he is much better than Obama.  He is also better than throwing your vote away on a third party and getting Obama for another 4 years! ::frustrated::


Seems like a rather self-promotion type site for Perry.  Believe me, it does not cover 1% of the "views" of this idiot.  Rick Perry has been the most corrupt governor in Texas history and has thrown education of Texas children under the bus.  Not even to mention our $25 billion deficit.   Of course, he does not mind mandating that all 14 year old girls receive a vaccine for the HPV virus, even against their parents' consent.  Yep, that is some type of conservatism!!
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2011, 03:30:05 PM »
He's only been elected multiple times because the alternative is Democrats.
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2011, 04:56:29 PM »
Jaime, you are right.  In 2008, he won with a whopping 36% of the vote!  I saw a recent poll which indicated that 56% of Texans would NOT vote for him for President.
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2011, 04:59:18 PM »
I would in a New York minute, if he were the GOP nominee against Obama.
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2011, 04:03:30 AM »
Quote from: wave runner on July 04, 2011, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: Johnb on July 02, 2011, 08:39:09 AM
Here are Rick Perry's stated views. http://www.ontheissues.org/rick_perry.htm

Compare that with Obama.  He may not be the most conservative or the ideal candidate for an ultra conservative but he is much better than Obama.  He is also better than throwing your vote away on a third party and getting Obama for another 4 years! ::frustrated::


Seems like a rather self-promotion type site for Perry.  Believe me, it does not cover 1% of the "views" of this idiot.  Rick Perry has been the most corrupt governor in Texas history and has thrown education of Texas children under the bus.  Not even to mention our $25 billion deficit.   Of course, he does not mind mandating that all 14 year old girls receive a vaccine for the HPV virus, even against their parents' consent.  Yep, that is some type of conservatism!!


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Do you have any information supporting these statements?  Such as articles from the Houston Chronical or the papers in Dallas or Austin?  Would really like to read them if you do.............
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2011, 07:28:02 AM »
To get you started, here is article about the HPV virus vaccine mandate, try this link:  http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/02/06/6hpv.html

Regarding the huge deficit:  http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/texas-legislature/headlines/20101023-Legislature-likely-to-cut-deep-to-571.ece

You can google any of these topics to learn more.  By the way, Perry later amended his "executive order" to allow parents an option to opt out, but he did that very reluctantly.  There are many, many things about Perry that are rotten.  How about his attempt to toll every interstate highway in Texas?  How would that go over to "conservative" voters?
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2011, 08:30:51 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2011, 01:04:01 PM »
Let us concentrate on the statement below:



Rick Perry has been the most corrupt governor in Texas history


Where is the evidence of this?
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Re: Rick Perry
« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2011, 02:12:20 PM »
Quote from: p.rehbein on July 05, 2011, 01:04:01 PM
Let us concentrate on the statement below:



Rick Perry has been the most corrupt governor in Texas history


Where is the evidence of this?
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Yes let's see if he compares to IL where all their recent governors get 2 terms.  One as governor and the second in federal prison. rofl  IL. Folks know the meaning of corruption.
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