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« on: November 11, 2008, 08:07:29 AM »

It made me sick to see Arnold speak out in favor of the vile sin of homosexuality.  Weak!
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/10/schwarzenegger_proposition_8_fight_isnt_over/

GOD has already spoken.  HE has already declared homosexuality an ABOMINATION!!!  IT IS AN ABOMINATION.  GOD hates homosexuality, just like HE hates murder, kidnapping, adultery...ect..

Arnold says he wants Prop 8 overturned; here is my rebuttal to him and all who think like him:

"Your wickedness makes you as it were heavy as lead, and to tend downwards with great weight and pressure towards hell; and if God should let you go, you would immediately sink and swiftly descend and plunge into the bottomless gulf, and your healthy constitution, and your own care and prudence, and best contrivance, and all your righteousness, would have no more influence to uphold you and keep you out of hell, than a spider's web would have to stop a falling rock. Were it not for the sovereign pleasure of God, the earth would not bear you one moment; for you are a burden to it; the creation groans with you; the creature is made subject to the bondage of your corruption, not willingly; the sun does not willingly shine upon you to give you light to serve sin and Satan; the earth does not willingly yield her increase to satisfy your lusts; nor is it willingly a stage for your wickedness to be acted upon; the air does not willingly serve you for breath to maintain the flame of life in your vitals, while you spend your life in the service of God's enemies. God's creatures are good, and were made for men to serve God with, and do not willingly subserve to any other purpose, and groan when they are abused to purposes so directly contrary to their nature and end. And the world would spew you out, were it not for the sovereign hand of him who hath subjected it in hope. There are black clouds of God's wrath now hanging directly over your heads, full of the dreadful storm, and big with thunder; and were it not for the restraining hand of God, it would immediately burst forth upon you. The sovereign pleasure of God, for the present, stays his rough wind; otherwise it would come with fury, and your destruction would come like a whirlwind, and you would be like the chaff of the summer threshing floor.
The wrath of God is like great waters that are dammed for the present; they increase more and more, and rise higher and higher, till an outlet is given; and the longer the stream is stopped, the more rapid and mighty is its course, when once it is let loose. It is true, that judgment against your evil works has not been executed hitherto; the floods of God's vengeance have been withheld; but your guilt in the mean time is constantly increasing, and you are every day treasuring up more wrath; the waters are constantly rising, and waxing more and more mighty; and there is nothing but the mere pleasure of God, that holds the waters back, that are unwilling to be stopped, and press hard to go forward. If God should only withdraw his hand from the flood-gate, it would immediately fly open, and the fiery floods of the fierceness and wrath of God, would rush forth with inconceivable fury, and would come upon you with omnipotent power; and if your strength were ten thousand times greater than it is, yea, ten thousand times greater than the strength of the stoutest, sturdiest devil in hell, it would be nothing to withstand or endure it.
The bow of God's wrath is bent, and the arrow made ready on the string, and justice bends the arrow at your heart, and strains the bow, and it is nothing but the mere pleasure of God, and that of an angry God, without any promise or obligation at all, that keeps the arrow one moment from being made drunk with your blood. Thus all you that never passed under a great change of heart,
by the mighty power of the Spirit of God upon your souls; all you that were never born again, and made new creatures, and raised from being dead in sin, to a state of new, and before altogether unexperienced light and life, are in the hands of an angry God. However you may have reformed your life in many things, and may have had religious affections, and may keep up a form of religion in your families and closets, and in the house of God, it is nothing but his mere pleasure that keeps you from being this moment swallowed up in everlasting destruction. However unconvinced you may now be of the truth of what you hear, by and by you will be fully convinced of it. Those that are gone from being in the like circumstances with you, see that it was so with them; for destruction came suddenly upon most of them; when they expected nothing of it, and while they were saying, Peace and safety: now they see, that those things on which they depended for peace and safety, were nothing but thin air and empty shadows.
The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked: his wrath towards you burns like fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing else, but to be cast into the fire; he is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in his sight; you are ten thousand times more abominable in his eyes, than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours. You have offended him infinitely more than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince; and yet it is nothing but his hand that holds you from falling into the fire every moment. It is to be ascribed to nothing else, that you did not go to hell the last night; that you was suffered to awake again in this world, after you closed your eyes to sleep. And there is no other reason to be given, why you have not dropped into hell since you arose in the morning, but that God's hand has held you up. There is no other reason to be given why you have not gone to hell, since you have sat here in the house of God, provoking his pure eyes by your sinful wicked manner of attending his solemn worship. Yea, there is nothing else that is to be given as a reason why you do not this very moment drop down into hell."  --'Sinners In The Hands Of An Angry God' by Jonathan Edwards.

All those words of villainy against GOD'S Word has been terminated!!!

GOD wins, Schwarzenegger loses.   Taking picture
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 09:26:43 AM »

I wonder what it would look like if those who did not vote for Obama took to the streets in protest, demanding that McCain be put in office?   

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 09:28:19 AM »

I wonder what it would look like if those who did not vote for Obama took to the streets in protest, demanding that McCain be put in office?  

That's diffferent, dontcha know?
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 12:54:43 PM »

That's diffferent, dontcha know?

Oh hai, is that you Governor Palin?
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 12:59:43 PM »

I wonder what it would look like if those who did not vote for Obama took to the streets in protest, demanding that McCain be put in office?  

That's diffferent, dontcha know?

Makes you want to get a sign that says....  "Obama is not my president"...  doesn't it? 
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 01:31:54 PM »

I think God has grander plans for America other then just providing a nice safe and sound place so pretend christians can act holier then thou before the masses.

In the grand scheme of things we will be held accountable for our individual actions and what we have done with the chances God has provided to us.

Christianity is about reforming someones heart so they have the ability to understand and obey the gospel... its not about forcing our interpretation of God's morality on the unwashed masses.

In this respect, I think the OP is just as doomed as the Ahnuld is.



 
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 03:06:30 PM »

I think God has grander plans for America other then just providing a nice safe and sound place so pretend christians can act holier then thou before the masses.

In the grand scheme of things we will be held accountable for our individual actions and what we have done with the chances God has provided to us.

Christianity is about reforming someones heart so they have the ability to understand and obey the gospel... its not about forcing our interpretation of God's morality on the unwashed masses.

In this respect, I think the OP is just as doomed as the Ahnuld is.

So someone takes a public stand on God's Word and they are a pretend Christian?
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 03:51:21 PM »

Tell us how you really feel WhoIsLikeUntoGod...... Whistling
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 03:51:57 PM »

I think God has grander plans for America other then just providing a nice safe and sound place so pretend christians can act holier then thou before the masses.

In the grand scheme of things we will be held accountable for our individual actions and what we have done with the chances God has provided to us.

Christianity is about reforming someones heart so they have the ability to understand and obey the gospel... its not about forcing our interpretation of God's morality on the unwashed masses.

In this respect, I think the OP is just as doomed as the Ahnuld is.

So someone takes a public stand on God's Word and they are a pretend Christian?

Are they preaching the word and asking for repentance?

Nope.

Pretty easy criteria.

Why is it so hard for christians to understand the following.

1.) Harping on godly principles to the unsaved is futile (the darkness hides from the light).

2.) Doing so, hurts our witnessing chances.

Sounds pretty much what Wormwood would do in the screwtape letters.. doesn't it?

Satan wants to deflect us just enough so that we fell good about what we are doing but working against God at the same time.

God has already mandated what we are to take a stand on... JESUS.. and his work on the croos.. the GOSPEL.!


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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 03:53:23 PM »

I think God has grander plans for America other then just providing a nice safe and sound place so pretend christians can act holier then thou before the masses.

In the grand scheme of things we will be held accountable for our individual actions and what we have done with the chances God has provided to us.

Christianity is about reforming someones heart so they have the ability to understand and obey the gospel... its not about forcing our interpretation of God's morality on the unwashed masses.

In this respect, I think the OP is just as doomed as the Ahnuld is.



 

Believe it or not Tantor...I actually agree with this.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 04:26:09 PM »

I think God has grander plans for America other then just providing a nice safe and sound place so pretend christians can act holier then thou before the masses.

In the grand scheme of things we will be held accountable for our individual actions and what we have done with the chances God has provided to us.

Christianity is about reforming someones heart so they have the ability to understand and obey the gospel... its not about forcing our interpretation of God's morality on the unwashed masses.

In this respect, I think the OP is just as doomed as the Ahnuld is.



 

There is nothing wrong with rebuking evil.   Preach it!
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2008, 04:39:02 PM »

There is nothing wrong with rebuking evil.   Preach it!

Of course not, but showing someone what the Word says about evil is far more effective than condemning them for their evil deeds.

It comes down to two things:
1) Is this about you and your holiness?
2) Is this about God and His desire that all should be saved?

No one is questioning your morals, just the delivery of said morals. What is more affective to the non-believer? "Your going to hell sinner" or "Let me show you a Higher calling and a Power greater than all your faults. Let me introduce you to the great 'I AM' and how if all the world turned to sin the very rocks would praise His name!"
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 05:27:25 PM »

Wait a minute... THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN IN CALIFORNIA... this was not Christians or pretend Christians...  I'm not bothered by that statement, I know I am not one. 

We have a vote... and Christian or not we have a right to exercise that vote in the booth.  The majority ruled that "NO NO TO HOMOSEXUAL"... was the game.  Like it or not. 

Calling people pretend Christians who don't want their kids taught that marriage is with WHOMEVER or WHATEVER you want is just silly.  You accuse them of judging, with your very judging words.  It's funny. 

Infact, I see what the voters did as the opposite of what you accuse.  They are not the ones shouting in the streets, they are not yelling "Sinner, sinner, going to Hell"... they VOTED.  It was quiet, clear and to the point.  The ones yelling trying to force their morals is the Gay side. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 06:42:46 PM »

Wait a minute... THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN IN CALIFORNIA... this was not Christians or pretend Christians...  I'm not bothered by that statement, I know I am not one. 

We have a vote... and Christian or not we have a right to exercise that vote in the booth.  The majority ruled that "NO NO TO HOMOSEXUAL"... was the game.  Like it or not. 

Calling people pretend Christians who don't want their kids taught that marriage is with WHOMEVER or WHATEVER you want is just silly.  You accuse them of judging, with your very judging words.  It's funny. 

Infact, I see what the voters did as the opposite of what you accuse.  They are not the ones shouting in the streets, they are not yelling "Sinner, sinner, going to Hell"... they VOTED.  It was quiet, clear and to the point.  The ones yelling trying to force their morals is the Gay side. 

I thought the vote was fair just like any other vote. Here are three follow up questions for pondering:

1) If the homosexual community does not want the blessing of God on their marriage than why not just invent some alternate, state-mandated union (why does it have to be natural marriage)?

2) The "will of the people" (voting) will always negatively affect people, usually in larger masses than Prop 8 does, so why are they complaining that it affects them? The arguments for gay marriage aren't, and never will be, logical.

3) All mankind in CA (gay & straight) already have equal rights according to the domestic partnership clause. And as soon as the gay community is physically capable of naturally conceiving & birthing a child, then they can be parents.

What is so confusing about this issue? Christian or non-christian...if you take a logical standpoint on this, it simply doesn't make any sense at all.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 07:45:53 PM »

So someone wants Prop 8 overturned.  So what?
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