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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2008, 07:32:11 PM »


Quote from: Ezekiel 18
21 "But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. 22 None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?

and:

Quote from: Ezekiel 33
13 If I tell the righteous man that he will surely live, but then he trusts in his righteousness and does evil, none of the righteous things he has done will be remembered; he will die for the evil he has done. 14 And if I say to the wicked man, 'You will surely die,' but he then turns away from his sin and does what is just and right- 15 if he gives back what he took in pledge for a loan, returns what he has stolen, follows the decrees that give life, and does no evil, he will surely live; he will not die.

and finally:

Quote from: Ezekiel 3
When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.  20 "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself." (emphasis mine)

In Christ,
KP


All three are Old Testament in origin.. directed at the nation of Israel for civil purposes.

The first two are just statements of fact and do not deal with the nature of christian responsibility toward them.

The third is civil in nature.. before the giving of the Holy Spirit where God wanted to keep each other accountable under the law.. which has been superseded in Christ.

If you really want to deal with Homosexuality.. please do it out of the new testament and Christ's own words... If you cannot find NT support you are just blowing smoke.. you are subjecting yourself to the old law and will be judged by the entirety of if.

If you choose to throw away 2/3 of God's Holy Word because it does not fit into your own humanist agenda, then by all means, go ahead.  Please consider this fair warning, though, it is you who will be judged.

However, just to be fair, to show you I follow ALL of God's Word, from Genesis through Revelation, here is what the NT has to say on homosexuality:

Quote from: Romans 1
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
 21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

 24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

In Christ,
KP


Not worried about being judged even a little bit.

Your second quote still does not deal with the relationship between the saved and the unsaved.. its a statement of fact of why God did what he did.

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« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2008, 09:10:22 AM »

Just so nobody forgets...

We ain't talking about "relationships" or living arrangements here (or there.)

Thanks to SCOTUS, all sodomy laws have been nullified, and these "significant others" can cohabitate anywhere, anytime, coast-to-coast.  And any mail-ordained "Reverend Feelgood" can "sanctify" the arrangement with a couple of  simple "I Do"s.

This is purely political and economic:  They want all the financial benefits of marriage from their government and their employers, without the messiness of producing and raising children, nor the legal hassles of simply forming a domestic partnership.

And I think that is why voters of even a secular background may have voted for the proposition, because of the financial drain on the government and American businesses.
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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2008, 09:12:35 AM »

Just an aside...

I wonder how many of Arnold's body-building buddies had made the plunge... Pondering
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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2008, 07:06:51 PM »

In case it hasn't already been mentioned, just follow the money.  There's lots of dough to be made here by divorce lawyers.
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Suffering for your beliefs is called faithfulness, making others suffer for your beliefs is called being a jerk.

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