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The Parkland students go 'round the world
« on: Sun Mar 18, 2018 - 19:41:43 »
OK, I haven't been saying much about the students from Parkland high school who have been organizing and leading protests anent guns because I certainly don't want to appear to be picking on victims, but -

They seem to be going off half-cocked, and it's getting ridiculous.

One of them called for a boycott for his own state's (Florida) tourism until gun laws are tightened. That's like cutting off your nose to spite your face, isn't it?

What's getting more bizarre is they're taking their anti-gun, anti 2nd Amendment agenda around the world right now. They were recently in the UAE (Sharia Law) complaining about our guns. I'm sure those in the UAE would love for us to disarm.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/parkland-high-school-activists-take-anti-gun-rights-message-uae-flogging-stoning-still-legal/

Now I'm hearing a group of them will be in Israel next week giving the same talk. So it looks like they're taking this global and trying to get other countries to put pressure on us to disarm?


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« Reply #1 on: Mon Mar 19, 2018 - 11:47:12 »
OK, I haven't been saying much about the students from Parkland high school who have been organizing and leading protests anent guns because I certainly don't want to appear to be picking on victims, but -

They seem to be going off half-cocked, and it's getting ridiculous.

One of them called for a boycott for his own state's (Florida) tourism until gun laws are tightened. That's like cutting off your nose to spite your face, isn't it?

What's getting more bizarre is they're taking their anti-gun, anti 2nd Amendment agenda around the world right now. They were recently in the UAE (Sharia Law) complaining about our guns. I'm sure those in the UAE would love for us to disarm.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/parkland-high-school-activists-take-anti-gun-rights-message-uae-flogging-stoning-still-legal/

Now I'm hearing a group of them will be in Israel next week giving the same talk. So it looks like they're taking this global and trying to get other countries to put pressure on us to disarm?


It is pure lunacy.

But their right to voice what they believe.

You are so correct that the UAE would love for us to disarm.

I am waiting for them to carry their bizaar thinking to the military and police.  ::whistle::


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« Reply #2 on: Mon Mar 19, 2018 - 12:09:07 »
The truly sad part of this is that these kids the Left tells us we are not supposed to allow access to guns because, presumably, they are not old enough, wise enough nor do they exhibit sufficient responsibility are the same kids the Left apparently thinks  are old enough, wise enough and exhibit sufficient responsibility that we should let them tell us how to run the country.

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« Reply #3 on: Mon Mar 19, 2018 - 18:26:49 »
The truly sad part of this is that these kids the Left tells us we are not supposed to allow access to guns because, presumably, they are not old enough, wise enough nor do they exhibit sufficient responsibility are the same kids the Left apparently thinks  are old enough, wise enough and exhibit sufficient responsibility that we should let them tell us how to run the country.

Very well said. +1

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« Reply #4 on: Mon Mar 19, 2018 - 22:13:22 »
Could you guys point out to me where I can find the students are trying to disarm the US?
 I'd be interested in reading about that.
 Thanks.

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« Reply #5 on: Tue Mar 20, 2018 - 11:16:40 »
Could you guys point out to me where I can find the students are trying to disarm the US?
 I'd be interested in reading about that.
 Thanks.

They're demanding we raise the legal age to purchase a firearm to 21 which is disarming a specific demographic of adult citizens - and they won't stop there.



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« Reply #6 on: Tue Mar 20, 2018 - 12:01:04 »
Could you guys point out to me where I can find the students are trying to disarm the US?
 I'd be interested in reading about that.
 Thanks.

What mommydi said plus they feel disarming would stop things like this from happening

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/03/20/shooting-reported-maryland-high-school/440981002/

The 17 minute walk out last week of students nation wide were demanding this.

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« Reply #7 on: Sat Mar 24, 2018 - 11:29:32 »
The protesting students from Parkland are upset because school officials are now making them all wear photo IDs and use clear backpacks at school such as this-





They're saying such things as it's embarrassing, such rules are against their constitutional rights, and they shouldn't be penalized for what someone else has done.  ::doh::

Parkland seems to be a bit behind, IMO. Schools in my area already make students wear a photo ID around their necks on a daily basis. A couple of times when my grandson forgot his, he was required to sit in the office until I brought his ID to school for him. Around here, students aren't allowed to walk the halls or go to class without wearing their ID. I guess kind of like when I was in high school and we were required to have a hall pass to be in the hallways while classes were in session.



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« Reply #8 on: Sat Mar 24, 2018 - 13:07:39 »
The protesting students from Parkland are upset because school officials are now making them all wear photo IDs and use clear backpacks at school such as this-





They're saying such things as it's embarrassing, such rules are against their constitutional rights, and they shouldn't be penalized for what someone else has done.  ::doh::

Parkland seems to be a bit behind, IMO. Schools in my area already make students wear a photo ID around their necks on a daily basis. A couple of times when my grandson forgot his, he was required to sit in the office until I brought his ID to school for him. Around here, students aren't allowed to walk the halls or go to class without wearing their ID. I guess kind of like when I was in high school and we were required to have a hall pass to be in the hallways while classes were in session.


You cannot go to a major sporting event or even a concert around here without carrying a very small handbag. Anything larger has to be clear plastic.

What would a high school kid feel embarrassed about?  Oh, I can think of a number of things, but nothing that they should be hiding anyway.

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« Reply #10 on: Mon Mar 26, 2018 - 20:44:23 »

This leader of the student movement is off the rails. His parents need to reel him in for his own sake. Here's a link where he gives two completely different accounts of where he was and what he did/experienced the day of the shooting.
First, on the day of the shooting, he gives an in-depth interview where he describes being in his AP class when the shooting started, and what he and his classmates and teacher did.
Next, he gives another interview where he says he was at home, heard about the shooting, grabbed his camera and rode his bike several miles to the school to see what he could record and hoping it wasn't another mass shooting.

Those are two completely different accounts.

Here are the interview videos-

https://www.infowars.com/david-hogg-caught-lying-about-where-he-was-during-parkland-shooting/

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« Reply #11 on: Tue Mar 27, 2018 - 07:15:48 »
OK, I haven't been saying much about the students from Parkland high school who have been organizing and leading protests anent guns because I certainly don't want to appear to be picking on victims, but -

They seem to be going off half-cocked, and it's getting ridiculous.

One of them called for a boycott for his own state's (Florida) tourism until gun laws are tightened. That's like cutting off your nose to spite your face, isn't it?

What's getting more bizarre is they're taking their anti-gun, anti 2nd Amendment agenda around the world right now. They were recently in the UAE (Sharia Law) complaining about our guns. I'm sure those in the UAE would love for us to disarm.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/parkland-high-school-activists-take-anti-gun-rights-message-uae-flogging-stoning-still-legal/

Now I'm hearing a group of them will be in Israel next week giving the same talk. So it looks like they're taking this global and trying to get other countries to put pressure on us to disarm?


Manipulation.   These innocent kids are being manipulated.   Who is a better poster child than pimply faced teens who demand something they know nothing about? 

With all due respect to the young and to the parents who love them - these kids don't have the first idea of the foundations of American politics and have less of an idea of what they demand.  Manipulation.

To be brutally honest, high school kids simply aren't equipped to organize national or international anything.  Manipulation.  They are patsies being used by others with an agenda that supersedes constitutional rights, American tradition, and common logic.  Manipulation.

High school kids today simply aren't bright enough to articulate complex ideas.   Rallies, which are supposedly organized by the kids for the kids, are often hijacked by opportunistic adults eager for a photo opportunity to get their faces on TV.  Manipulation.  There are only a few kids who express themselves in a clear and precise manner.  You can count them on the fingers of one hand.   The rest, like most, use the word like to begin every sentence.  Like they speak like broken words and like try to make themselves understood, but like only like use their digital toys to like click a thing that like speaks for them.  Manipulation.  Ignorant kids cannot organize international rallies.  Like, how do they do it?  Like, I don't know.  Like, do they?   Like it or not, they don't.  Manipulation.

The liberal press often takes a hit for things such as this.  They do seem to relish the attention and smile at the young who are justifying their goals - playing into their agenda, but I really wonder if they are a major player in all this.  Maybe.  Maybe not.   They may benefit, but are they the instigators?

The whole thing reeks of manipulation.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...




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« Reply #12 on: Tue Mar 27, 2018 - 09:30:24 »
Manipulation.   These innocent kids are being manipulated.   Who is a better poster child than pimply faced teens who demand something they know nothing about? 

With all due respect to the young and to the parents who love them - these kids don't have the first idea of the foundations of American politics and have less of an idea of what they demand.  Manipulation.

To be brutally honest, high school kids simply aren't equipped to organize national or international anything.  Manipulation.  They are patsies being used by others with an agenda that supersedes constitutional rights, American tradition, and common logic.  Manipulation.

High school kids today simply aren't bright enough to articulate complex ideas.   Rallies, which are supposedly organized by the kids for the kids, are often hijacked by opportunistic adults eager for a photo opportunity to get their faces on TV.  Manipulation.  There are only a few kids who express themselves in a clear and precise manner.  You can count them on the fingers of one hand.   The rest, like most, use the word like to begin every sentence.  Like they speak like broken words and like try to make themselves understood, but like only like use their digital toys to like click a thing that like speaks for them.  Manipulation.  Ignorant kids cannot organize international rallies.  Like, how do they do it?  Like, I don't know.  Like, do they?   Like it or not, they don't.  Manipulation.

The liberal press often takes a hit for things such as this.  They do seem to relish the attention and smile at the young who are justifying their goals - playing into their agenda, but I really wonder if they are a major player in all this.  Maybe.  Maybe not.   They may benefit, but are they the instigators?

The whole thing reeks of manipulation.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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« Reply #13 on: Wed Mar 28, 2018 - 12:29:17 »
As it turns out, only 10% of the people marching in DC were teens. Not surprising. I only watched a few clips of the thing, and I kept noticing how many adults were marching, but few teens.  ::pondering:: I also noticed an abundance of green armpit hair women with signs pertaining to their own causes.

http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2018/03/28/study-10-d-c-march-lives-protesters-teenagers/

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« Reply #14 on: Wed Mar 28, 2018 - 18:57:21 »
OK, I haven't been saying much about the students from Parkland high school who have been organizing and leading protests anent guns because I certainly don't want to appear to be picking on victims, but -

They seem to be going off half-cocked, and it's getting ridiculous.

One of them called for a boycott for his own state's (Florida) tourism until gun laws are tightened. That's like cutting off your nose to spite your face, isn't it?

What's getting more bizarre is they're taking their anti-gun, anti 2nd Amendment agenda around the world right now. They were recently in the UAE (Sharia Law) complaining about our guns. I'm sure those in the UAE would love for us to disarm.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/parkland-high-school-activists-take-anti-gun-rights-message-uae-flogging-stoning-still-legal/

Now I'm hearing a group of them will be in Israel next week giving the same talk. So it looks like they're taking this global and trying to get other countries to put pressure on us to disarm?


Guess what.
- There are a whole lot of "disarmed" countries in this world, and they are doing just fine.
- Of all the Arab nations, the UAE may be the one you have to fear the least.

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« Reply #15 on: Wed Mar 28, 2018 - 20:07:17 »
Guess what.
- There are a whole lot of "disarmed" countries in this world, and they are doing just fine.
- Of all the Arab nations, the UAE may be the one you have to fear the least.

The UAE?  rofl  Where semi-Sharia abounds? Remember when the two Westerners were arrested and thrown in jail for a month for one little kiss in public while vacationing in Dubai? Then there's that British couple who were vacationing there and the husband said a curse word to his driver and was put in jail for 6 months. Yeah, maybe they're "doing just fine" without arms, but I personally don't want to live under such restrictions. My daughter went to Dubai last year, and was given a very long, detailed list by her travel agent of what not to do in Dubai to keep from being thrown in jail for an extended amount of time. She was not impressed with Dubai and won't be going again.




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« Reply #16 on: Wed Mar 28, 2018 - 23:29:50 »
The UAE?  rofl  Where semi-Sharia abounds? Remember when the two Westerners were arrested and thrown in jail for a month for one little kiss in public while vacationing in Dubai? Then there's that British couple who were vacationing there and the husband said a curse word to his driver and was put in jail for 6 months. Yeah, maybe they're "doing just fine" without arms, but I personally don't want to live under such restrictions. My daughter went to Dubai last year, and was given a very long, detailed list by her travel agent of what not to do in Dubai to keep from being thrown in jail for an extended amount of time. She was not impressed with Dubai and won't be going again.

That's just ignorance talking.
What you call "semi Sharia" is nothing more but custom and laws of the country.
You try cursing at a taxi driver in Bangkok. He will drive you around the corner and beat you up with a gang of his buddies.
That has nothing to do with "semi sharia" but everything with respect and decency.
When you go to a foreign country you adjust to local customs. And if you don't like such restrictions...go somewhere else.

Unfortunately there are a whole lot of westerners who think they can go overseas and bring their western liberties with them.
They think that since they can call a police officer "pig" in Manchester they can also do it in Moscow.
Or they think that back home they can do an obscene dance, so the same liberty should apply in Cambodia.

I am not particularly impressed with Dubai, but its also a very safe place. And it has excellent public transport. Its clean and well organized. Going through customs is a breeze.
Neither am I impressed with big cities in the USA. Not safe at night, public transport sucks, taxi drivers are rude, its relatively dirty and getting through customs is a drama.


But all this has nothing to do with the OP.
There is nothing wrong with a group of people looking at other countries with tight gun control and wanting to have the same.
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« Reply #17 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 06:17:04 »
That's just ignorance talking.
What you call "semi Sharia" is nothing more but custom and laws of the country.
You try cursing at a taxi driver in Bangkok. He will drive you around the corner and beat you up with a gang of his buddies.
That has nothing to do with "semi sharia" but everything with respect and decency.
When you go to a foreign country you adjust to local customs. And if you don't like such restrictions...go somewhere else.

Unfortunately there are a whole lot of westerners who think they can go overseas and bring their western liberties with them.
They think that since they can call a police officer "pig" in Manchester they can also do it in Moscow.
Or they think that back home they can do an obscene dance, so the same liberty should apply in Cambodia.

I am not particularly impressed with Dubai, but its also a very safe place. And it has excellent public transport. Its clean and well organized. Going through customs is a breeze.
Neither am I impressed with big cities in the USA. Not safe at night, public transport sucks, taxi drivers are rude, its relatively dirty and getting through customs is a drama.


But all this has nothing to do with the OP.
There is nothing wrong with a group of people looking at other countries with tight gun control and wanting to have the same.

Thet have two options in my opinion:

1.  Move
2.  Pound sand

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« Reply #18 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 07:21:29 »

When you go to a foreign country you adjust to local customs. And if you don't like such restrictions...go somewhere else.



Shouldn't every country expect that?

When US citizens say the same to those coming here from other cultures, we're called bigots and xenophobes.



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« Reply #19 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 07:39:24 »
Shouldn't every country expect that?

When US citizens say the same to those coming here from other cultures, we're called bigots and xenophobes.

Your OP proves you are a bigot and a xenophobe.
You are intolerant about the personal opinion of the Parkland students, and you seem to think people in the UAE somehow care you can or cannot carry a gun whilst going to Walmart.

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« Reply #20 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 07:42:56 »
Thet have two options in my opinion:

1.  Move
2.  Pound sand

You may not like it, but they do have a third option: Get public opinion on their side and democratically get gun control laws in place.
If I am not mistaken that right they also have according to the Constitution.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 07:48:55 »
You may not like it, but they do have a third option: Get public opinion on their side and democratically get gun control laws in place.
If I am not mistaken that right they also have according to the Constitution.

Those laws most likely would be in violation of the 2nd amendment.

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« Reply #22 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 07:53:42 »
Those laws most likely would be in violation of the 2nd amendment.

Perhaps you are right, and maybe you are not.
But it seems to me that since the gun control laws are different in almost every state, much is open for interpretation.

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« Reply #23 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 08:04:26 »
Your OP proves you are a bigot and a xenophobe.
You are intolerant about the personal opinion of the Parkland students, and you seem to think people in the UAE somehow care you can or cannot carry a gun whilst going to Walmart.
If I'm a bigot and xenophobe for supposedly opposing the Parkland students opinions, then what does that make them for being intolerant of mine?  ::smile:: When they help organize national movements to restrict rights of law abiding citizens, then take that movement around the world, I have the right and obligation to loudly raise my voice.

I also don't care what the UAE thinks of our gun laws - not one bit, but evidently the Parkland students think they do because they traveled to foreign soil to gripe about it.




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« Reply #24 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 08:37:38 »

When you go to a foreign country you adjust to local customs. And if you don't like such restrictions...go somewhere else.


So you never answered my question about this, but instead, just lashed out in anger.

Do you care to answer now?

If westerners should respect and adjust to local customs when in a foreign country, shouldn't we in the US expect the same, without being referred to as bigots and xenophobes?
Why are we in the US referred to as bigots and xenophobes for wanting foreign nationals and visitors to adjust to our laws and customs, but other countries aren't referred to as bigots and xenophobes for requiring the same?




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« Reply #25 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 09:54:53 »
If I'm a bigot and xenophobe for supposedly opposing the Parkland students opinions, then what does that make them for being intolerant of mine?  ::smile:: When they help organize national movements to restrict rights of law abiding citizens, then take that movement around the world, I have the right and obligation to loudly raise my voice.

I also don't care what the UAE thinks of our gun laws - not one bit, but evidently the Parkland students think they do because they traveled to foreign soil to gripe about it.

I don't see anything intolerant about the Parkland students disagreeing with your point of view.
It is you who brings in irrelevant and incorrect data to make what the students do somehow bad.

UAE does not have Sharia Law, it's law is based on Sharia Law and has roots in it, but it is not Sharia Law.
Once you realized you went in "half cocked" (the thing you accuse the students of) you amended it to "semi Sharia", whatever that means.
Oh yeah...your level of experience is that your daughter went to Dubai and she didn't like it.

You called what the students do "ridiculous".
It is equally ridiculous to expect that the civil opinion in UAE or Israel or whatever other country can somehow put pressure on the USA to disarm on a civil level.
You really think the state of Texas is going to amend its gun control legislation because a lot of people in Germany think they should?

Finally, people who experienced horror travel around the world continuously. Happens all the time.
You have people from the USA who travel to other countries to do their story, and you have people from around the world going to the USA to do theirs.
Often by invitation and the Parkland students are no different from other people who have a story to tell.

And of course there are a whole bunch of people in the world who would love to hear from the students because most countries do not have school shootings.
Perhaps because they do have gun control legislation?

Maybe you should ask yourself why it is that in this horrible UAE where you cannot kiss on the street, and where you cannot curse at a taxi driver, you don't have school shootings.
Or why in Israel where there are plenty of guns, you have no school shootings.
Or why in Canada where you can buy guns, you seldom have school shootings.
Or why in Europe, where you have tight gun controls, you almost never have school shootings.

Perhaps time to give some thought why it seems to happen all the time in the USA?
Maybe the Parkland students have a point?

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« Reply #26 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 10:07:22 »
So you never answered my question about this, but instead, just lashed out in anger.

Do you care to answer now?

If westerners should respect and adjust to local customs when in a foreign country, shouldn't we in the US expect the same, without being referred to as bigots and xenophobes?
Why are we in the US referred to as bigots and xenophobes for wanting foreign nationals and visitors to adjust to our laws and customs, but other countries aren't referred to as bigots and xenophobes for requiring the same?

Foreigners going to the USA should also abide by the laws of the USA, and I don't think anyone in the world calls you a bigot or xenophobe for wanting that.
You do make yourself look like a bigot or xenophobe however if you want to build a wall to keep the neighbors out.

Don't get me wrong here, I think the USA is a great country with fantastic people.
But my experience is also that there are many, many people in the US who have absolutely no clue whats going on in the rest of the world.

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #27 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 10:31:48 »
I don't see anything intolerant about the Parkland students disagreeing with your point of view.
It is you who brings in irrelevant and incorrect data to make what the students do somehow bad.

UAE does not have Sharia Law, it's law is based on Sharia Law and has roots in it, but it is not Sharia Law.
Once you realized you went in "half cocked" (the thing you accuse the students of) you amended it to "semi Sharia", whatever that means.
Oh yeah...your level of experience is that your daughter went to Dubai and she didn't like it.

You called what the students do "ridiculous".
It is equally ridiculous to expect that the civil opinion in UAE or Israel or whatever other country can somehow put pressure on the USA to disarm on a civil level.
You really think the state of Texas is going to amend its gun control legislation because a lot of people in Germany think they should?

Finally, people who experienced horror travel around the world continuously. Happens all the time.
You have people from the USA who travel to other countries to do their story, and you have people from around the world going to the USA to do theirs.
Often by invitation and the Parkland students are no different from other people who have a story to tell.

And of course there are a whole bunch of people in the world who would love to hear from the students because most countries do not have school shootings.
Perhaps because they do have gun control legislation?

Maybe you should ask yourself why it is that in this horrible UAE where you cannot kiss on the street, and where you cannot curse at a taxi driver, you don't have school shootings.
Or why in Israel where there are plenty of guns, you have no school shootings.
Or why in Canada where you can buy guns, you seldom have school shootings.
Or why in Europe, where you have tight gun controls, you almost never have school shootings.

Perhaps time to give some thought why it seems to happen all the time in the USA?
Maybe the Parkland students have a point?

No, they dont have a point.

School shootings have increased but not because of the amount or type of guns.

Sensationalist media combined with cultural rot are to blame.

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #28 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 12:27:19 »
No, they dont have a point.

School shootings have increased but not because of the amount or type of guns.

Sensationalist media combined with cultural rot are to blame.

Sensational media and cultural rot is present everywhere in the world.
Yet it hasn't resulted in school shootings in other countries.

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #29 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 12:45:11 »
Sensational media and cultural rot is present everywhere in the world.
Yet it hasn't resulted in school shootings in other countries.

Our culture is different.  It is an apples and oranges comparison.

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #30 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 12:57:03 »
I would say our affluence and the resulting availability of violent movies, games etc along with the disintegration of the family has contributed more than the availability of guns. A young person into video games and such can immerse themselves into the most violent virtual world imaginable. To me this desensitizes them to reality to a great extent and makes the "outsiders" in society bolder and more prone to violence. Plus all the psychiatric ailments pretty much unheard of 30 or so years ago and the resulting prescription drug regimens could result in much of the psychotic behavior we are seeing in America. All the way from the 19 year old in the Florida shooting all the way to the Las Vegas gunman who was around 60 ish. This is a cultural and human issue for the most part.

But fear not, the superintendent in that Pennsylvania school has a solution the school shooting problem..........a bucket of river stones in each classroom.  ::doh::

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #31 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 13:09:36 »
I don’t believe gun “control” is the goal of the left, but a total ban and confiscation of arms. That’s what dictatorial regimes, have done throughout history right before they exercise their will on the people. It’s happened over and over again throught history. I don’t believe a lot of young people know enough about history to make that connection.

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #32 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 14:32:17 »
Our culture is different.  It is an apples and oranges comparison.

So there is something wrong with your culture?

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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #33 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 14:36:21 »
So there is something wrong with your culture?

Too many fruits and nuts for various reasons I elaborated on earlier. We need fruit and nut control.
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Re: The Parkland students go 'round the world
« Reply #34 on: Thu Mar 29, 2018 - 16:37:49 »
I would say going back 50-60 years would have been the right time to implement gun control in the US. People don't seem to understand that the country is FULL of guns and by applying the very strictest of gun control measures, or even revoking legal gun ownership will still result in the country being full of guns, only now those weapons will be solely in the hands of those whom we do not wish to have them.

The culture of guns in the US is not comparable to any other place on earth, people need to stop comparing them to other countries NOW. 

My brother says he could buy a gun illegally for as little as $75, here a .22 revolver is at minimum $1000 street price.

It will always be easy for criminals to obtain guns regardless of how tough the laws become. Making it illegal for people to defend themselves against those criminals is ludicrous.