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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #15 on: Today at 03:04:55 PM »
It may be the reason they give or imply but it ain't what they fear. Losing their power IS what they fear.

I dislike war as much as anyone and I realize Trump's views, but I do think any reasonable President when posed with the security briefings will see the value of going after them over there and not wait. We cannot repack Pandora's Box from the last 75 years right or wrong.

A guy that goes back on a long held immigration view will have no problem retracting his middle east views. Even at that, he's the only game we have.
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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #16 on: Today at 03:14:42 PM »
Since the name "NeverTrumper" is being used, can I refer to die hard Trump supporters as Trumpanzees again?

There's a big difference, and you know it. #NeverTrump and #StillNeverTrump are names they gave themselves, and they use it to describe themselves. OTOH, Trumpanzees is not a name Trump supporters have given themselves or use to describe themselves. Those in the #NeverTrump movement are proud of being called NeverTrumpers. Look at their tweets and feeds.

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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #17 on: Today at 03:17:56 PM »
What do we call doofuses that think staying home or third party is a non-Hillary option?

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« Reply #18 on: Today at 03:22:46 PM »
Here's proof that NeverTrumpers are self-proclaimed NeverTrumpers. They are proud to be called NeverTrumpers.



Show me Trump supporters who want to be called Trumpanzees, or any of the other silly names the NeverTrumpers have labeled us.

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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #19 on: Today at 03:30:57 PM »
Since the name "NeverTrumper" is being used, can I refer to die hard Trump supporters as Trumpanzees again?

Absolutely not- unless Katy thinks it's funny.  ::whistle::

As for the NeverTrump stuff, I was, but like the kid that refuses to eat green beans, if it comes down to where all that's left is green beans, well, you have to eat green beans.  ::shrug::

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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #20 on: Today at 03:50:47 PM »
It may be the reason they give or imply but it ain't what they fear. Losing their power IS what they fear.

I dislike war as much as anyone and I realize Trump's views, but I do think any reasonable President when posed with the security briefings will see the value of going after them over there and not wait. We cannot repack Pandora's Box from the last 75 years right or wrong.

A guy that goes back on a long held immigration view will have no problem retracting his middle east views. Even at that, he's the only game we have.

And supplying rebels with guns and training so we have to keep going there like Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama.

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And supplying rebels with guns and training so we have to keep going there like Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama.

You're sounding a bit like a real conservative, a sarcastic conservative, anyway.

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And supplying rebels with guns and training so we have to keep going there like Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama.

You're sounding a bit like a real conservative, a sarcastic conservative, anyway.

I am a real conservative.  And yes, I am very sarcastic. I think forcibly spreading democracy and using our military to accomplish regime change is wrong, and incredibly foolish.

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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #23 on: Today at 04:52:57 PM »
We don't need to be spreading democracy, agreed, but we have NO choice but to go after the terrorists over there. That WILL continue for decades regardless of who and which party is President. And should. This enemy is unlike any other in history and everyone knows that or should.  This war does not stop just because we desire to disengage. They are not like a scab that will heal if you quit picking at it. They are like a maurauding worldwide cancer.
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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #24 on: Today at 06:18:42 PM »
Show me Trump supporters who want to be called Trumpanzees, or any of the other silly names the NeverTrumpers have labeled us.



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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #25 on: Today at 06:32:57 PM »
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Oh, I don't know about all that. I am a NeverTrumper that will actually vote for Trump since there's no other option. How enthusiastic he is about anything has never been the problem for me. That he is a self absorbed, egotistical idiot has been.  But......................... he's all we got, so go Trump!

LOL! Thanks, Crowcamp, for that post - after several wasted hours on another message board, trying to make the point that loathing Trump doesn't necessarily make you a 'Never Trumper', that absolutely made me laugh out loud. Thank you so much for some sanity, and for doing it with style!

I'm not a Never Trumper.  Thanks in large part to this forum, I have switched from not voting to voting for Trump.  But, here is what scares me about him (not an exhaustive list, just some reasons):

1.  I think he is for Trump and nothing else matters.  He brags about how he has bought politicians from both parties for personal favors and personal gain.  I see no reason why he wouldn't make deals with foreign countries that would benefit HIM, no matter what affect it has on the country.

2.  I think he is an egotistical maniac, every bit as much as Hillary or Barack is.  He has made the statement that he will write "so many executive orders you won't believe it."  He just says "they will be good orders that you will like."  He has no intention of working within the constitution.  He has never been in a position to be concerned about "separation of powers."  All his business life he has been a "dictator."  He surrounds himself with good people, but in the end HE makes the decision and anyone who crosses his path no longer works for him.  That may work great when building a skyscraper, but it is not at all what our constitution says.

3.  I think he likes a strong federal government with little or no power granted to the states.  I think his attitude is (my words, not his) "I'll be a dictator, but you will like my rules and orders."  He has made the comment that he loves eminent domain when it is good.  (Like taking people's property to build a shopping mall.)

4.  I think he has NO clue what the base cause of the problem in this country is - spiritual and moral, not political and economic.  I think issues like abortion, homosexual rights, marriage, family, etc. are not on his radar.  He may nominate pro-life judges, but I don't think he will fight for them.  I think he would just as soon nominate a Ginsburg on social issues if that nominee agreed with his positions on the role of government in trade, economics, etc.

5.  It truly bothers me that so many of my Christian friends look at Trump as the one chosen by God to bring America back.  The man brags about his sexual conquests, and clearly demonstrates he is doing nothing more than  pandering to Christians with his scriptural references to "Two Corinthians."  I'm just disappointed that so many Christians supported him early in the campaign when there were several, far superior, alternatives to him.

But, with that said, I have come to the conclusion I will vote for him because Christianity will be harmed less by him than by Hillary.  Both will continue the path America has chosen - humanism, the belief that we are smarter than God and we don't need Him advising us, much less leading us, as we move forward.  Both will continue the path we are on of spitting in God's face and still expecting Him to bless us and keep us safe from all harm.

But, it will progress even faster under Hillary than Trump.

I will vote for Trump, not because I think there is one single thing he will do to help America, or Christianity.  I will vote for him because however bad he will be, Hillary will be worse.
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Re: Do you think she will lose any votes?
« Reply #26 on: Today at 07:18:59 PM »
Show me Trump supporters who want to be called Trumpanzees, or any of the other silly names the NeverTrumpers have labeled us.



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