Author Topic: There is no least worse.... there is simply cookie cutter politicians (Read 1389 times)

Rella · « **on:** Wed Dec 16, 2020 - 15:54:24 »

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell warned Republican senators Tuesday during a private caucus call not to object to the election results on Jan. 6, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mcconnell-gop-senators-dont-object-191653783.html

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **on:** Wed Dec 16, 2020 - 15:54:24 »

Jaime · « **Reply #1 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 05:23:18 »

We are seeing the unmasking of the RINOs for all to see in preparation of our new one party system. The Dem’s version of “peaceful transfer of power” following the stolen election. Kudos to the gutless John McCain Roberts SCOTUS, the court of NO resort, literally afraid to do their job. A truly despicable group or 7 of them anyway.

Rella · « **Reply #2 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 10:51:50 »

Quote from: Jaime on Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 05:23:18

We are seeing the unmasking of the RINOs for all to see in preparation of our new one party system. The Dem’s version of “peaceful transfer of power” following the stolen election. Kudos to the gutless John McCain Roberts SCOTUS, the court of NO resort, literally afraid to do their job. A truly despicable group or 7 of them anyway.

Yep, I almost have an admiration for the left justices cause they can be counted on
to keep with their beliefs or party.

Wycliffes_Shillelagh · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 17:31:59 »

There is no least worst.

I could swear I've seen that logic before...

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Jaime · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 18:03:14 »

Sure there is. Just as MUCH as there is least worst as to comparing weather, football teams, college professors, EVERYTHING. I agree with Rella, the Left is dependably and consistently bad. The least worst comparison may not always be as pronounced as say Senator Joe Manchin vs Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, but there IS typically a noticeable difference.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 18:03:14 »

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 21:19:44 »

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 17:31:59

There is no least worst.

I could swear I've seen that logic before...

There is a least worst. That doesn't mean that either option is palatable. At some point, the "least worst" isn't a good enough option for me. There have been a few races where I wrote in a name instead of choosing between Democrat and Republican.

In 2016, I voted Trump but I wasn't planning on it. Obviously no Democrats, and the Libertarian candidate was crappy.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 21:21:25 »

Quote from: Jaime on Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 05:23:18

We are seeing the unmasking of the RINOs for all to see in preparation of our new one party system. The Dem’s version of “peaceful transfer of power” following the stolen election. Kudos to the gutless John McCain Roberts SCOTUS, the court of NO resort, literally afraid to do their job. A truly despicable group or 7 of them anyway.

You are late to the party. In many ways it has been an illusion of choice for lots of years.

Jaime · « **Reply #7 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 04:51:08 »

Nah, it is what it is for a two party system, which was always flawed. No possible reason to vote for a third party in a two party system. Save the gasoline and stay home. It accomplishes the same thing of not what you intend. Our real choice is in the primaries. Assuming we had a clean election process the general election would be only a pragmatic choice of the remaining two. Likely the Dems (or more accurately the Establishment Uniparty) only allowed the GOP to win occasionally to give the appearance of a fair system. Only with Trump they screwed up in 2016 and didn’t even consider they NEEDED to cheat to win. In 2020, they were not going to chance a loss to Trump in 2020. It didn’t matter who was on their ticket. Trump inspired the scoundrels, now Trump will likely expose them. HOPEFULLY for the sake of his and our grandkids.

If Biden is inaugurated and the communists win the Georgia Senate seats, the two party system will effectively be replaced by a one party system. A Libertarian vote will not be dangerous, it WILL be more meaningless than ever.

Rella · « **Reply #8 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 07:27:12 »

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 17:31:59

There is no least worst.

I could swear I've seen that logic before...

Never from me. I always found one of the two would not be as bad as the other.

Now I KNOW that they are all alike.

No one, except POTUS... this one.... gives a dang for the people or what would make their lives better and that is why this one is the only one who ever kept his campaign promises and more. All else will only keep them if it benefits them personally.

Rella · « **Reply #9 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 07:39:19 »

Quote from: Jaime on Thu Dec 17, 2020 - 18:03:14

Sure there is. Just as MUCH as there is least worst as to comparing weather, football teams, college professors, EVERYTHING. I agree with Rella, the Left is dependably and consistently bad. The least worst comparison may not always be as pronounced as say Senator Joe Manchin vs Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, but there IS typically a noticeable difference.

But Jaime.... it is just spin.

The truth is they have zero intention of even trying to carry out a campaign promise.

I used to think that they never got their promises done because the rest of the swamp would managed to stop them.

TRUMP has shown that if they truly cared, it would get done cause he did so against all odds.

That has become so clear over the past 4 years when one after the other of the republicans has shown their true colors and backed away ....
and now that we know this election WAS stolen.... they are telling POTUS to stand down, and walk away.

That is swamp and they just are so afraid that the Chicoms and Soros have taken out Trump and they worry they could be next.

Good grief.... Cant even get traitor Swalwell off the Intelligence committee... when they should be saying to him clear out your desk, you are fired.

NOT ONE GOP (group of ____ks) has called for him to be gone. WHY?

They are all cookie cutters just kissing up to people for a vote and then behind closed doors watch out.

I wont get into SCOTUS. AMY voted no to avoid being impeached. Only 2 of 9. The ones we knew what they would do
voted as expected on hearing TX case.

And that a----e reason of Roberts saying "Do you want to be responsible for the rioting if we take the case?"

There is only one person DJT who would have had the balls to say YES to that....

I am done... There is no least worse cause they all have a price.

Jaime · « **Reply #10 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 07:57:25 »

There is still a difference though small. Even McConnell would be a plus over Schumer when everything is considered. There are only a handful of them that won’t disappoint. But the level of disappointment is fixing to get real if the Dems steal the two Georgia Senate seats. There truly won’t be even a semblance of two party system anymore, comrades. Of course the least worst will only mean anything IF the election process is restored. Frankly I never dreamed of the level of fraud that I think is going to be proven. Trump ain’t gonna stop pursuing that to his last breath even if He is gone from power. Maybe John McCain Roberts et al will be impeached! I don’t see why not. No reason not to at least hear the most important case possible. A case to ferret out the problems in our election process, the most sacred thing possible for a Free Republic. The Dems talk about peaceful transfer of power, but how peaceful will they be if Trump prevails and remains for a second term. We only want legal votes to count. Dems want any and all votes to count Trump was right to fire his cyber security guy for saying this was the most secure election in history. The only bigger windy would be that Biden is the most competent and honest candidate ever.

I don’t now blame anyone for not voting, but if and when the process is fixed, the least worst will still be applicable. It’s applicable now even considering fraud, but it just won’t be counted for anything. A least worst decision absolutely a decision of conscience. Whether it counts for anything with crooks counting the votes, is another thing.

I probably won’t vote again in the coming one party system. I will if Trump’s challenge prevails. And simple common sense protections like voter ID cards and NEVER again mass mail in votes allowed. And a thorough audit and revealing of problems with cote machines. It probably can never be 100% fair and transparent, but it can be a hell of a lot better. We may have to resort to military oversight of elections, especially in the usual big cities. There is EVERY reason to not consider Biden the '"duly elected President Elect". And Geraldo's knucklehead remark about Trump supporters not acknowledging Biden is ca ca as they say on the border. They say it differently in the oil patch, but means the same.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #11 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 09:04:06 »

Quote from: Jaime on Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 07:57:25

There is still a difference though small. Even McConnell would be a plus over Schumer when everything is considered. There are only a handful of them that won’t disappoint. But the level of disappointment is fixing to get real if the Dems steal the two Georgia Senate seats. There truly won’t be even a semblance of two party system anymore, comrades. Of course the least worst will only mean anything IF the election process is restored. Frankly I never dreamed of the level of fraud that I think is going to be proven. Trump ain’t gonna stop pursuing that to his last breath even if He is gone from power. Maybe John McCain Roberts et al will be impeached! I don’t see why not. No reason not to at least hear the most important case possible. A case to ferret out the problems in our election process, the most sacred thing possible for a Free Republic. The Dems talk about peaceful transfer of power, but how peaceful will they be if Trump prevails and remains for a second term. We only want legal votes to count. Dems want any and all votes to count Trump was right to fire his cyber security guy for saying this was the most secure election in history. The only bigger windy would be that Biden is the most competent and honest candidate ever.

I don’t now blame anyone for not voting, but if and when the process is fixed, the least worst will still be applicable. It’s applicable now even considering fraud, but it just won’t be counted for anything. A least worst decision absolutely a decision of conscience. Whether it counts for anything with crooks counting the votes, is another thing.

I probably won’t vote again in the coming one party system. I will if Trump’s challenge prevails. And simple common sense protections like voter ID cards and NEVER again mass mail in votes allowed. And a thorough audit and revealing of problems with cote machines. It probably can never be 100% fair and transparent, but it can be a hell of a lot better. We may have to resort to military oversight of elections, especially in the usual big cities. There is EVERY reason to not consider Biden the '"duly elected President Elect". And Geraldo's knucklehead remark about Trump supporters not acknowledging Biden is ca ca as they say on the border. They say it differently in the oil patch, but means the same.

Like I said above, there is a least worst. Is the difference palatable enough for you to vote for the least worst?

And again, this isn't a coming one party system, it's been here for a long time. Other than fringe politicians like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump, you are often given the illusion of choice. Yeah, there is a lot of difference on some issues, but the establishment Republicans seem to use them as marketing tools only. Just like Democrats and black issues.

Jaime · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 11:21:00 »

Republicans like Romney and Kasich etc have totally sold out as we knew they would. I feel better about Lindsey Graham, but not totally. I think Cruz has learned a lesson from Trump. The millioms of Trump supporters want a fighter. Any non-Democrat should pay special attention.

TC, they won't even try to conceal the one party system. They won't be able to. The GOP will never be a factor again if the Georgia Senate runoffs are lost with a Biden Presidency. If Trump's challenge succeeds and he doesn't get suicided, he will make some substantial progress with draining the swamp. if he is not successful the swamp will be all that remains.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 16:09:15 »

Quote from: Jaime on Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 11:21:00

Republicans like Romney and Kasich etc have totally sold out as we knew they would. I feel better about Lindsey Graham, but not totally. I think Cruz has learned a lesson from Trump. The millioms of Trump supporters want a fighter. Any non-Democrat should pay special attention.

TC, they won't even try to conceal the one party system. They won't be able to. The GOP will never be a factor again if the Georgia Senate runoffs are lost with a Biden Presidency. If Trump's challenge succeeds and he doesn't get suicided, he will make some substantial progress with draining the swamp. if he is not successful the swamp will be all that remains.

Romney isn't a new sell out. He has always been establishment. That means he hasn't changed. He is doing what should be expected. Same with McCain, and the other establishment types.

Rella · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 16:32:27 »

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 16:09:15

Romney isn't a new sell out. He has always been establishment. That means he hasn't changed. He is doing what should be expected. Same with McCain, and the other establishment types.

Yes.

Dem and Rep establishment. All for one and ne for all.

The disappointment was they are very good at hiding behind whatever they hide behind. It took Trump to ferret out the swamp and make them come into the light. Even he admitted not to long ago he had no idea how deep that swamp is.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 16:52:43 »

Quote from: Rella on Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 16:32:27

Yes.

Dem and Rep establishment. All for one and ne for all.

The disappointment was they are very good at hiding behind whatever they hide behind. It took Trump to ferret out the swamp and make them come into the light. Even he admitted not to long ago he had no idea how deep that swamp is.

Trump only exposed it to the light to those who weren't paying attention.

4WD · « **Reply #16 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 04:28:25 »

Quote from: Jaime on Fri Dec 18, 2020 - 07:57:25

Trump ain’t gonna stop pursuing that to his last breath even if He is gone from power.

But if or when he is gone from power, he will be unable to do anything about it. The fix is in already too deep to stop it. There is really no way to stop it from the inside. With the MSM, the educational system, the entertainment system including professional sports, the entrenched bureaucracies, a major section of Wall Street and the digital elites of Silicon Valley all pushing for the Leftist agenda there really is no way to stop it. Even if the Republicans manage to hold the Senate, that will only slow the Leftist onslaught; they will not be able to stop it. Maybe, just maybe, if the Republicans can hold the Senate and then gain control of the House two years from now, it could be slowed even further. But turning the system around will be nearly impossible. Big government is here to stay and big government is at the heart of Leftism.

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We may have to resort to military oversight of elections, especially in the usual big cities.

Even the military is being invaded by the Leftist philosophy, especially at the top. The military will not be any help against a rigged voting system.

Jaime · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 06:12:20 »

I figure Trump will spend whatever is necessary to expose this theft after he is gone from office. He won’t be able to remedy the theft after he is gone, but I think he will be able to reveal to the country the magnitude of the problem It will be up to the people to force a remedy.

My statement about the mulitary would be his use prior to leaving office in the form of military type tribunals to bring out the truth hopefully before inauguration day of Joe Biden. Yes it would require marshal law and such. That is why he has purged some of the military leadership. January will be very interesting and historic. Let the Left call him a tyrant. They haven’t stopped in 4 years. The magnitude of this steal HAS to be revealed. It will be up to the country, its people to want to remedy it. Not at all saying it WILL BE remedied, but it WILL eventually be revealed.

Rella · « **Reply #18 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 06:52:31 »

Quote from: Jaime on Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 06:12:20

I figure Trump will spend whatever is necessary to expose this theft after he is gone from office. He won’t be able to remedy the theft after he is gone, but I think he will be able to reveal to the country the magnitude of the problem It will be up to the people to force a remedy.

My statement about the mulitary would be his use prior to leaving office in the form of military type tribunals to bring out the truth hopefully before inauguration day of Joe Biden. Yes it would require marshal law and such. That is why he has purged some of the military leadership. January will be very interesting and historic. Let the Left call him a tyrant. They haven’t stopped in 4 years. The magnitude of this steal HAS to be revealed. It will be up to the country, its people to want to remedy it. Not at all saying it WILL BE remedied, but it WILL eventually be revealed.

The link I just posted.... with out saying what it is about in the title... may start to explain some stuff.

BTW Jaime. Seems Abbott from TX is listed in this CCP list.

Then, if you can get your hands on a copy of "Rulers Of Darkness. Exposed" by Damian Campbell... ( a 64 page booklet about what is and has been going on in our government... and others) do so.

The copyright laws in the inner cover prohibit me from even quoting from this book even if I give credit...

But if you cannot find it, PM me and I will give anyone the link who is intereted.

Jaime · « **Reply #19 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:08:07 »

Rella, it doeen’t surprise me about Abbott. He’s almost as wishy washy as Fauci.

4WD · « **Reply #20 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:18:50 »

Quote from: Jaime on Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:08:07

Rella, it doeen’t surprise me about Abbott. He’s almost as wishy washy as Fauci.

Being wishy washy doesn't make him a communist. We should not get carried away with labelling. We need to carefully distinguish between the Leftists and the Capitalists, even the more "liberal" Capitalists. I do not believe that our fight is between left and right; I believe our fight is between Leftism [Statism] and Capitalism.

Rella · « **Reply #21 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:38:00 »

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:18:50

Being wishy washy doesn't make him a communist. We should not get carried away with labelling. We need to carefully distinguish between the Leftists and the Capitalists, even the more "liberal" Capitalists. I do not believe that our fight is between left and right; I believe our fight is between Leftism [Statism] and Capitalism.

4WD · « **Reply #22 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:50:15 »

Quote from: Rella on Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:38:00

You disagree?

Jaime · « **Reply #23 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 08:08:32 »

Of course our fight is between Left and Right. Which would by definition include the subset of capitalism vs statism. The fight between Left and Right is the broader over arching battle.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 14:20:57 »

Is it statism vs capitalism? Not quite.

It is statism vs liberty. Capitalism is an economic system, and can at times exist in countries with large government controls. Liberty cannot exist in countries with large government controls.

4WD · « **Reply #25 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 14:32:30 »

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 14:20:57

Is it statism vs capitalism? Not quite.

It is statism vs liberty. Capitalism is an economic system, and can at times exist in countries with large government controls. Liberty cannot exist in countries with large government controls.

Let me correct that. Statism vs. free market capitalism.

Rella · « **Reply #26 on:** Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 19:18:14 »

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Dec 19, 2020 - 07:50:15

You disagree?

I agree that being wishy washy doesn't make him a communist. Nor do all far right
people who exalt a nation make them a fascist. An accusation levelled at Trump.

I do disagree that our fight is simply between the left and right. There are too many folks with that control mindset that makes it between left and them and right and them, and without a semblance of agreement on either side of the aisle truly makes it impossible for unity in either party and will always keeps the public at odds

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