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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 08:29:38 PM »

Chestnut Reagan CUT tax rates and didn't increase tax rates, thus increasing revenue. His tax rate cuts spurred the massive growth of jobs after the malaise of Carter (whom Obama is trying to copy. And another Reagan will have to straighten out with free market policies, and low tax rates.

Wrong.

Bruce Bartlett, nationalreview.com, from 2003:

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The only problem with this analysis is that it is historically inaccurate. Reagan may have resisted calls for tax increases, but he ultimately supported them. In 1982 alone, he signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion.

According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. An increase of similar magnitude today would raise more than $100 billion per year.

In 1983, Reagan signed legislation raising the Social Security tax rate. This is a tax increase that lives with us still, since it initiated automatic increases in the taxable wage base. As a consequence, those with moderately high earnings see their payroll taxes rise every single year.

In 1984, Reagan signed another big tax increase in the Deficit Reduction Act. This raised taxes by $18 billion per year or 0.4 percent of GDP. A similar-sized tax increase today would be about $44 billion.

The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 raised taxes yet again. Even the Tax Reform Act of 1986, which was designed to be revenue-neutral, contained a net tax increase in its first 2 years. And the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 raised taxes still more.

The year 1988 appears to be the only year of the Reagan presidency, other than the first, in which taxes were not raised legislatively. Of course, previous tax increases remained in effect. According to a table in the 1990 budget, the net effect of all these tax increases was to raise taxes by $164 billion in 1992, or 2.6 percent of GDP. This is equivalent to almost $300 billion in today's economy.
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 09:02:14 PM »

The increase in tax revenues in Reagan's Presidency was well documented as being due to tax cuts to business spurring increased economic activity.

You can't tax the rich job creators into creating jobs, but you can incentivize them to invest in capital improvements and inventory with tax cuts.

Everyone knows, but may not admit, if you want more of something you tax it less, if you want less of something tax it more. (The whole premise for our tax code) Manufacturing those "somethings" or incentivising folks to buy things  creates jobs.

Higher taxes don't work. They decrease business activity.

If taxes on anything were raised during Reagan's term, it was obviosly to placate the Democrat congress. There was some compromise even on Reagan's part I'm sure. Without the massive spending cuts that Reagan wanted, and didn't get from congress, the deficits ballooned. All the while revenue exploded AFTER his tax cuts because of the business boom, NOT because of anything else. My red ink in my checkbook is NOT due to me getting a raise, it is due to my family's overspending.

20 million jobs were created as a result, not. Because some highway tax might have been raised. The private sector is the engine for "shovel ready" jobs, not a government program.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 10:28:31 PM »

But Obama pumped TONS of money into the economy...it has not helped.

Here is what helps...tax cuts for individuals...and not by giving us $13 a week...that is not even enough to take my family out to dinner.

Give taxpayers a one time, lump sum rebate and they will spend it.  That will give the economy a shot in the arm.  It worked when Bush did it.  If Obama does it, it will work again.

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KP

One time lump sum is a horrible idea.  Bush was wrong to do it in the first place.  We had to borrow the money from the Chinese to do it.  I am against the new spending.
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