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« on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 07:44:16 »
Because of the new tax law Walmart has raised their starting salary from $9 to $11 per hour and are giving $1000 bounus to over 1 million employees.  But according to the looney left the tax cuts only help the rich.   

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« Reply #1 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 10:13:20 »
Because of the new tax law Walmart has raised their starting salary from $9 to $11 per hour and are giving $1000 bounus to over 1 million employees.  But according to the looney left the tax cuts only help the rich.

And yet, the left keeps yelling, "LIAR! LIAR! IMPEACH!" smh


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« Reply #2 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 11:19:29 »
It’s nigh on to impossible to fix stupid.

Common sense has got to learn to shout louder, which is why I like Trump. Passive “go along to get along” is long gone as the country gets stupider and more vocal on the left.

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Re: Walmart
« Reply #3 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 12:22:18 »
I heard this AM that Waste Management is giving out $2,000 to , from what I could gather, all employees.

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Re: Walmart
« Reply #4 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 12:31:26 »
Darn trickle down!

Pelosi said the middle class would be starving while the corporate fat cats made out like bandits.

It’s one thing for the Left to BE a bunch of morons, (not to disparage everyday morons) but to see it demonstrated in such a tangible way is awesome.

Even the liberal news outlets like CNBC and MSNBC are lauding the tax cut for this phenomenon. This is YUGE!
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« Reply #5 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 12:39:27 »
They're (the left) complaining that even with these bonuses and raises, Walmart employees (family of 4 with one person working) still lives below the poverty level. I guess entry level jobs at Walmart are supposed to pay 80k a year.

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« Reply #6 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 13:10:20 »
Walmart also announced they are closing 63 Sam's Club stores, and failed to notify the employees to many of them:

http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-suddenly-closes-sams-club-stores-2018-1

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« Reply #7 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 13:54:52 »
I have often wondered how Sam’s and Walmart survive in the same market.

Nearly as big of a mystery as to how Walgreens and CVS flourish across the street from each other in many locations. When I moved to Midland 30 uears ago, there was basically one big Walgreens and nothing else, now Walgreens and CVS are proliferating like rabbits. Who knew there was such a pentup demand.

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« Reply #8 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 14:06:55 »
I can't speak to the Walmart/Sam's Club...although right now there is a Walmart Neighborhood market literally right around the corner from a Walmart Supercenter.

As far as Walgreens/CVS, I can answer that, just based on the myriad of jobs with their myriad of health plans that I have had over the years.  Different healthcare providers will allow one or the other.  For example, when I worked at GE, I was covered for CVS, but not Walgreens.  When I worked for the government, it was just the opposite.  I am very lucky now, in that my current insurance covers both, but from what I have noticed over the years, that is the exception rather than the rule.  That's how both can thrive right across the street from each other (which I saw all the time in Houston).

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« Reply #9 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 14:36:48 »
I have often wondered how Sam’s and Walmart survive in the same market.



So do I! Twice I've had a Sam's Club membership. The first time because I was under the impression that I could save a lot of money by shopping there. The second time, because I forgot that I actually spent more there and it was stupid to buy into that whole exclusive membership thing. I think people are figuring out (finally) that's it's a marketing ploy and nothing else. Honestly, I expect all those membership warehouse clubs to fizzle. I think these closings are just the beginning.
To me, they're kind of like the factory outlet malls. Everyone thinks they're getting a bargain, but they're not.



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« Reply #10 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:04:21 »
So do I! Twice I've had a Sam's Club membership. The first time because I was under the impression that I could save a lot of money by shopping there. The second time, because I forgot that I actually spent more there and it was stupid to buy into that whole exclusive membership thing. I think people are figuring out (finally) that's it's a marketing ploy and nothing else. Honestly, I expect all those membership warehouse clubs to fizzle. I think these closings are just the beginning.
To me, they're kind of like the factory outlet malls. Everyone thinks they're getting a bargain, but they're not.

There is one closing north of me, but two existed in the same city.  Costco is beating Sam's in this segment.  Amazon is hurting many.

I just ordered a water softener from a 3rd party vendor on Amazon.  Got a better product than Home Depot or Lowes sell for a similar price, delivered to my door in 2 days.

Amazon is hurting these places.

I stopped using Sam's because i wasnt saving money on food.  There would be circumstances where i might join again for a large purchase, but no store is owed my loyalty.

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Re: Walmart
« Reply #11 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:04:39 »
I have often wondered how Sam’s and Walmart survive in the same market.

Nearly as big of a mystery as to how Walgreens and CVS flourish across the street from each other in many locations. When I moved to Midland 30 uears ago, there was basically one big Walgreens and nothing else, now Walgreens and CVS are proliferating like rabbits. Who knew there was such a pentup demand.

I have never been able to prove it but have always thought there was a tie between them somehow.

Years ago CVS had some specific CVS nuts that were so good and I would buy them often. Primarily their CVS chocolate covered cashew nuts.

Before a Walgreen built across the street from them I happened to be in another Walgreen store and was quite surprised to see
the very same chocolate covered cashew nuts, in the same container, with the same wrapping as the CVS the only thing was it said Walgreen's and not CVS'.

That was a very odd coincidence, i it was a coincidence.

Since then, Walgreens has built across from our local CVS

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« Reply #12 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:14:06 »
There is one closing north of me, but two existed in the same city.  Costco is beating Sam's in this segment.  Amazon is hurting many.

I just ordered a water softener from a 3rd party vendor on Amazon.  Got a better product than Home Depot or Lowes sell for a similar price, delivered to my door in 2 days.

Amazon is hurting these places.

I stopped using Sam's because i wasnt saving money on food.  There would be circumstances where i might join again for a large purchase, but no store is owed my loyalty.

Exactly. Retail is not the place to be right now for job security. Service industry jobs, healthcare, technology are better bets. Most of us do our shopping online now, so most all brick and mortar stores are taking huge hits.
Walmart is trying to be a local version of Amazon now where you can order online and pick up at a drive-thru, but I think that's too little too late. People are used to shopping Amazon and having it delivered to their door.


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« Reply #13 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:16:58 »
So do I! Twice I've had a Sam's Club membership. The first time because I was under the impression that I could save a lot of money by shopping there. The second time, because I forgot that I actually spent more there and it was stupid to buy into that whole exclusive membership thing. I think people are figuring out (finally) that's it's a marketing ploy and nothing else. Honestly, I expect all those membership warehouse clubs to fizzle. I think these closings are just the beginning.
To me, they're kind of like the factory outlet malls. Everyone thinks they're getting a bargain, but they're not.

Well, this is one we differ on.

I do have a Sam's membership and shop there every 3 months or so.

It depends on what your personal needs are, but anytime I can buy 2 loaves of bread for just a scant more then a single loaf in my grocery store I take the opportunity.

Certainly there are those things that are not bargains, but I cannot match the price anywhere close on paper products , including paper for my printer.

I prefer Member Mark laundry detergent. I prefer Member Mark garbage bags. and even Member Mark paper plates.
I have found the Member Mark butter is quite close in taste to Land of Lakes and you get 4 lbs for under $12.
(A great savings when you do a lot of Holiday baking)


I rarely, if ever, hit Walmart. I have never found much of anything in the way of a bargain there and the sizes of things in the food department are the same as at my local grocery and no real bargain.... To me Walmart is on par with Target, and I cannot stand to shop at Target.

But to each his own....

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« Reply #14 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:24:40 »
Walmart also announced they are closing 63 Sam's Club stores, and failed to notify the employees to many of them:



My mother-in-law used to drive 120 miles round trip to Amarillo, TX to buy canned asparagus in bulk at Sam's. That's all she bought there - her canned asparagus in a 6 pack. I asked her if her local Walmart didn't carry that canned asparagus, and she answered they did, but "not in bulk."  ::doh::  Trying not to speak ill of the dead, here, but that was just silly. For the life of me, I don't understand people going to these warehouse clubs to buy in bulk, when a Super Center is usually closer and they can buy as much as they want. It's not like the Super Center puts a limit on how many cans of asparagus we can purchase at once.
Like I said...I think all these warehouse clubs are starting to fizzle.

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I prefer Member Mark laundry detergent. I prefer Member Mark garbage bags. and even Member Mark paper plates.

Rella, you're not alone. My parents are members at Sam's because they like their garbage bags.

A half block from Sam's, is an Aldi's. That's where I buy my pumpkins every fall, but no membership is required there. They do make you rent your shopping carts from them, though. lol

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« Reply #16 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:38:29 »
I have never been able to prove it but have always thought there was a tie between them somehow.

Years ago CVS had some specific CVS nuts that were so good and I would buy them often. Primarily their CVS chocolate covered cashew nuts.

Before a Walgreen built across the street from them I happened to be in another Walgreen store and was quite surprised to see
the very same chocolate covered cashew nuts, in the same container, with the same wrapping as the CVS the only thing was it said Walgreen's and not CVS'.

That was a very odd coincidence, i it was a coincidence.

Since then, Walgreens has built across from our local CVS

Someone told me that the CVS CEO is the ex-wife of the Walgreen's CEO and she is hell bent on building a CVS across the street or right near every Walgreen's store in the country. In Midland, I believe there are 5 pairs of Walgreen/CVS locations. Who'da thought we needed all those drug stores!
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« Reply #17 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:39:05 »
Before a Walgreen built across the street from them I happened to be in another Walgreen store and was quite surprised to see
the very same chocolate covered cashew nuts, in the same container, with the same wrapping as the CVS the only thing was it said Walgreen's and not CVS'.

They could be connected, but they could also be using the same generic provider.  Years ago, when my older boy was just a baby, I would buy the generic Enfamil baby formula.  Walmart and Target had the same exact generic formula, the only difference was that the walmart  had a blue lid and was called great value while target had a red lid and was called whatever their generic brand was at the time.


A half block from Sam's, is an Aldi's. That's where I buy my pumpkins every fall, but no membership is required there. They do make you rent your shopping carts from them, though. lol

We use aldi's.  Their off brand is trule off brand, but they have a lot unique german foods that are pretty good and the prices can't be beat.

We've never used Sam's Club, but we used to go to Costco in Houston...when they had sales.  We would stock up on non-perishible food or go there for thanksgiving basket items.  No Costco's near us now though.  Bulk food stores have their use, but like you said, there is no real savings and they are quickly dying out.

I think TC is right..Amazon is hurting them a lot.

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We use aldi's.  Their off brand is trule off brand, but they have a lot unique german foods that are pretty good and the prices can't be beat.

We've never used Sam's Club, but we used to go to Costco in Houston...when they had sales.  We would stock up on non-perishible food or go there for thanksgiving basket items.  No Costco's near us now though.  Bulk food stores have their use, but like you said, there is no real savings and they are quickly dying out.

I think TC is right..Amazon is hurting them a lot.

My sister loves shopping at Aldi's because she says it reminds her of living in Germany. Sometimes when she comes for a visit, we take a little stroll through the Aldi's aisles.

I bought a headboard from Costco, but online, before they put in a store here in Tulsa.


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« Reply #19 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 15:49:40 »
I wonder what will become of Amazon? Is it a monopoly? I do like their Marketplace feature that allows mom and pop businesses to list/sell on Amazon's site, but I read not long ago that Amazon allows that for only one reason - to see which mom and pop items sell, so they can offer a similar item at a lower price.

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« Reply #20 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 16:10:43 »
I wonder what will become of Amazon? Is it a monopoly? I do like their Marketplace feature that allows mom and pop businesses to list/sell on Amazon's site, but I read not long ago that Amazon allows that for only one reason - to see which mom and pop items sell, so they can offer a similar item at a lower price.

I don't believe that to necessarily be true.  I don't think Amazon is gonna stock water heaters.  Basics yes, but specialty items?  No.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 16:15:48 »
Well, this is one we differ on.

I do have a Sam's membership and shop there every 3 months or so.

It depends on what your personal needs are, but anytime I can buy 2 loaves of bread for just a scant more then a single loaf in my grocery store I take the opportunity.

Certainly there are those things that are not bargains, but I cannot match the price anywhere close on paper products , including paper for my printer.

I prefer Member Mark laundry detergent. I prefer Member Mark garbage bags. and even Member Mark paper plates.
I have found the Member Mark butter is quite close in taste to Land of Lakes and you get 4 lbs for under $12.
(A great savings when you do a lot of Holiday baking)


I rarely, if ever, hit Walmart. I have never found much of anything in the way of a bargain there and the sizes of things in the food department are the same as at my local grocery and no real bargain.... To me Walmart is on par with Target, and I cannot stand to shop at Target.

But to each his own....

Once upon a time some of their bulk items were cheaper and you couldn't find some of the items in your regular store.  Their bread prices went up.  I stopped using them because their food prices were no longer worth it.  I can get butter cheaper at Aldi.  I can get milk cheaper almost anywhere.  Their butter deal isn't a deal. 

I can get hamburger at nearly a dollar a pound cheaper than Sam's by going to GFS.  Butter at Aldi.  Cereal at Aldi, or Menards.

I do like Sam's toilet paper.  I bought 5 or 6 of their 36+ roll cases before I let my membership expire.  If they had a great TV that I was interested in and they were much cheaper than Best Buy or some other store, I would consider a membership.  I bought a few year's worth of clear plastic bags there before I let the membership go as well, but it isn't worth the cost to keep the membership.

I felt the same way about Costco.  If you are diligent and shop sales you can get same or better prices than Sam's/Costco without needing to pay for a membership.

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« Reply #22 on: Thu Jan 11, 2018 - 20:18:56 »
I think Costco is the main competition for Sam's but also I think the membership model is coming to a close.  As far as having a Walgreen and CVS across the street from one another (Just got a CVS in my home town a few months ago and that is exactly where they opened)  This is a well established practice in business.  If you want to open a chicken restaurant the best place is as close to KFC as you can get.  The traffic is already there and you get the over flow and the "lets try the new place" .

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« Reply #23 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 06:53:09 »
I think Costco is the main competition for Sam's but also I think the membership model is coming to a close. 
Costco is having a banner year. Their stock has increased significantly over the last few years.  There is no sign that it won't continue.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 09:08:56 »
4WD everyone I know that has access to both choose Costco.  They have developed a better model than Sams.  That being said most brick and motor stores are losing ground and folks are beginning to see that paying for a membership that get you nothing more than access to products that have to be bought in bulk and are not a significant saving will die. 

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« Reply #25 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 09:45:25 »
What is the purpose of membership dues in stores like Sam's and Costco? Why are they charging people to shop at their stores?

For some odd reason, this reminds me of a convo I had last night with my grandson. He got a new job as a valet attendant/driver, and loves it. Last night he told me, "I really like my job. People actually pay me to drive their cars."  ::noworries:: 





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« Reply #26 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 10:01:57 »
4WD everyone I know that has access to both choose Costco.  They have developed a better model than Sams.  That being said most brick and motor stores are losing ground and folks are beginning to see that paying for a membership that get you nothing more than access to products that have to be bought in bulk and are not a significant saving will die.

My closest Costco is well over an hours drive away, on the other side of the city. And very lousy traffic.

There is a Sam's that is about 45 min away, and the one I go to is about 25 min away.

I would not g to Sam's to buy groceries. However, if there and they have something I want, then I will get it.

As to the brick and mortar stores.... there are 2 problems. At least around here.

#1 is the lack of selection.  If you are wanting to make a selection of something you are forced to move between stores or settle for
something less then desirable.

#2. is the lack of sales people to help you.

Oh I firmly understand that to make it in today's market you need to cut prices to the barest possible meaning you do not have the extra cash to pay people....

However... If you have a question, or actually need help, and even make your way to a pay station... often there is no one there to answer any question or even take you money.

Macy's for instance.....

They have gone the route of JC Penny in all their "sales" and promotions. My local has even cut their customer service departments to the point that I had a gift card. I was told it had expired so I wanted to go to customer service to see about that..... ::frown::....

So I do a lot online. NOT specifically with Amazon, ( though they do get a chunk) but I will  shop the websites of the local stores for what I am looking for , then  up and down the onlines and then make my decision.

Not for clothing... except for a sweat shirt I bought last week.  NO ONE near me had any basic sweatshirts... they were all those
hoodie things ... and I never buy shoes online.... Those have to be tried on.




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« Reply #27 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 10:15:42 »
What is the purpose of membership dues in stores like Sam's and Costco? Why are they charging people to shop at their stores?

For some odd reason, this reminds me of a convo I had last night with my grandson. He got a new job as a valet attendant/driver, and loves it. Last night he told me, "I really like my job. People actually pay me to drive their cars."  ::noworries::

Whether $45 for Sams or $60 for Costco I think it all has to do with keeping the general browsers out.

Sam's has a potato chip that I love

Member's Mark Olive Oil Kettle Cooked Potato Chips (24 oz.)
$ 5 98 In club only

Walmart and other stores have the same chips....

5 oz for $3.62



Certainly is no comparison price wise on this.

You need to know what you are buying.

Also, even though Sam's has a picture ID.... If you have a couple of friends/family who will shop with you, you can privately split
a membership.

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Also, even though Sam's has a picture ID.... If you have a couple of friends/family who will shop with you, you can privately split
a membership.

This whole comparison of Sam's and Costco is fascinating to me. I did a quick search for answers to my questions, but I haven't found any stats on it.
For example-
How many people buy memberships and rarely, if ever, use them? How many members regularly use their memberships?

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« Reply #29 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 14:37:53 »
This whole comparison of Sam's and Costco is fascinating to me. I did a quick search for answers to my questions, but I haven't found any stats on it.
For example-
How many people buy memberships and rarely, if ever, use them? How many members regularly use their memberships?

I really have no idea.

I do know that we have taken people with us to shop there, like my 93 year old Aunt.

Most folks around here, unless they are single, have memberships.

I can see no reason why anyone would buy a membership unless they plan to use them.  Unless they just automatically renew them and then stop going.

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« Reply #30 on: Fri Jan 12, 2018 - 21:22:06 »
We have a Costco membership, although I never go myself my wife likes to fight the crowds and get the good deals in bulk, as well as some items that can't be found elsewhere.

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« Reply #31 on: Sat Jan 13, 2018 - 10:29:06 »
We have a Costco membership, although I never go myself my wife likes to fight the crowds and get the good deals in bulk, as well as some items that can't be found elsewhere.

I have a sister like that, she seems to like crowds.  I don't get it, and being 6'6" I am blessed to have a unique advantage over most in a crowded situation and it makes the experience at least tolerable.  I can see to navigate and I don't have to deal with my head below the surface of a sea of humanity.  If I were short like my sister, I would avoid such situations like the plague.

I do wish Costco would put in an express line, often I get stuck with half a dozen items behind folks who appear to be stocking up for the apocalypse.