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« Reply #210 on: Sat Feb 11, 2012 - 08:27:19 »
Have you noticed that RP supporters keep posting polls that shows he can beat anyone except Jesus yet he has not been able to win a single primary. rofl rofl 

Ron Paul has the best chance to beat Obama but the worst chance of getting past the establishment Republicans who still love big government, progressive foreign policy and Keynsian economics. Yep. All the sorts of things that got us in this mess we're in


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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #211 on: Sat Feb 11, 2012 - 13:15:35 »
And RP must win the GOP nomination to become President. 3rd party will have no chance.
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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #212 on: Sat Feb 11, 2012 - 21:27:58 »
Maine is over Mitt wins the beauty contest and Ron Paul a close second.  Probably the closest RP has ever come to winning a "beauty contest".  ::smile::

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #213 on: Sat Feb 11, 2012 - 21:54:29 »
And RP must win the GOP nomination to become President. 3rd party will have no chance.

He doesn't need to run as a third party candidate. There are a huge number of us who are already committed to doing it for him. Go check out No One BUt Paul .com.
We're not going to vote for a war mongerer, nor one who will allow the federal reserve to continue to plunder our children or one who won't stop the emergence of an authoritarian police state, nor onw who won't resist the emergence of a Satanic one world government.
We also have Christians For Ron Paul.com and thats pretty much where we stand and we're not going to budge.

While the Republicans say "anyone but Obama" we know that this country is like a train on a set of tracks. Trains can only go where the tracks take it. Not like a car that can swerve to the right or left. ALL of the other's running against Ron Paul would be simply different engineers taking that train in the same direction. The only difference is what speed it would be traveling. Ron Paul is like a switch man who pulls the lever and the train gets on a set of tracks back to our constitutional foundings. Freedom, sound money and armed neutrality-non interventionism.

To us it doesn't matter. We don't buy into the media propaganda that seperates us and divides us and makes us think this issue or that issue is th emost important while ignoring others like what actually is the cause of the increasing national debt and the unfunded liabilities. What is the cause of our loss of liberty and constant wars. Where our production base has gone and why it has gone away. Why we're actually dependent on enemies for much of our energy. We have researched many of these issues and found that we''re being lied to by the politicians and the media and THANK GOD for the giift of discernment!!!!!!

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #214 on: Sat Feb 11, 2012 - 22:01:13 »
Maine is over Mitt wins the beauty contest and Ron Paul a close second.  Probably the closest RP has ever come to winning a "beauty contest".  ::smile::

Did you know that all of the votes haven't been counted yet? Below is a message from John Tate Ron Paul's campaign manager. But this doesn't surprise any of us.



"Tonight you saw dueling examples of how much the establishment is scared of Ron Paul and his message of liberty.

 Ron Paul will win the most delegates out of Maine tonight.

In fact, he will probably even win the “beauty contest

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #215 on: Sun Feb 12, 2012 - 07:13:23 »
If RP is so popular, he will have no problem winning the GOP nomination. If he doesn't, he sure as heck ain't gonna be elected in a 3rd party run. Obama will though.

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« Reply #216 on: Tue Feb 14, 2012 - 09:06:32 »
If RP is so popular, he will have no problem winning the GOP nomination. If he doesn't, he sure as heck ain't gonna be elected in a 3rd party run. Obama will though.

Well, like I said, he has a better chance to beat Obama than he does to win the Republican nomination. He also has the best chance next to Romney within 1-2 points out of any other Republican to beat Obama. He's actually out best chance to beat Obama because the anti war votes and cross over Democrats would favor Ron Paul over Romney or Obama.

Whether he wins the GOP or not I cannot, as both a Christian and a patriot vote for anyone else. I will not vote for a candidate who allows the Federall Reserve to punder my children or one who works toward the one world government and cashless financial system. You can if you want but not me. NEVER will I work for Satan's plan!

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #217 on: Tue Feb 14, 2012 - 09:58:38 »

I cannot, as both a Christian and a patriot vote for anyone else.

You need to wait a bit because I have not announced my decision who we should vote for.  I'm a Christian and a patriot and all true believers in Christ and those who truly love this nation will vote as I do.

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« Reply #218 on: Tue Feb 14, 2012 - 10:20:12 »
If RP is so popular, he will have no problem winning the GOP nomination. If he doesn't, he sure as heck ain't gonna be elected in a 3rd party run. Obama will though.

Since RP's message of liberty is so popular, he would have a chance to win the GOP nomination if it were not for the GOP leadership manipulating the votes.

Since he won't win the nomination, he will not be elected as POTUS.

Obama will though, thanks to the GOP disenfranchisement of a large portion of it's potential supporters.

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« Reply #220 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 08:29:17 »
The perception (deception) that Ron Paul cannot win is a deliberate attempt to deceive you. Always remember that this world system is ruled by the powers and principalities of the air until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete. We are instructed to be as innocent as doves but as shrewed as serpants. We are told that the deception will be so great that it might deceive if possible even the elect.

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What happened in Maine?
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This also happened in Iowa, and Nevada

Don't be naive. The world system is trying to shove down our throats war mongers, debt producers who do the will of the international bankers who have been working for a long time to bring about a Satanic one world government that our Lord hates and will destroy as His first task when He returns. They are ignoring, smeering and trying to subvert the ONLY candidate who's policies WILL get us out of debt, WILL restore the freedoms that were authored by God Himself and who touts the Christian Just War Principles. THINK and PRAY and VOTE
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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #221 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 08:39:17 »
If RP is so popular, he will have no problem winning the GOP nomination. If he doesn't, he sure as heck ain't gonna be elected in a 3rd party run. Obama will though.


Recent poll. Ron Paul most favorable among general population voters
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/14/cnn-poll-romneys-likability-fading/

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« Reply #222 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 08:40:21 »
Maine is over Mitt wins the beauty contest and Ron Paul a close second.  Probably the closest RP has ever come to winning a "beauty contest".  ::smile::

Riiiight. Maybe we've been deceived a little?
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Here is a little sample of that deception from Rick Santorum "faith based candidate" himself. Granted he does say "served "on" armed services" rather than served "in" armed services BUT the average listener/voter will hear it as "served in the armed services".

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Just for the record, Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate still in this race who HAS served in the military and HAS by a VAST MAJORITY the support from both the servicemen and women above ALL the other candidates COMBINED in multiples along with the support from the intelligence community assaigned to counter-terrorism efforts around the world.
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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #223 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 10:17:22 »
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If you will look at my thread on "something stinks"  you will know I am not happy with the process.  However, unlike RP supporters I am not willing to get mad and take my marbles home and let Obama an the liberals have free reign.  I don't know who would have won in Iowa or Maine because all the votes were not counted and neither do you.  That is the problem.  There is no poll that shows a third party candidate has a chance because they will not.  The best way to change a system is from the inside not pouting on the outside like a soiled child.

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« Reply #224 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 10:52:28 »
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If you will look at my thread on "something stinks"  you will know I am not happy with the process.  However, unlike RP supporters I am not willing to get mad and take my marbles home and let Obama an the liberals have free reign.  I don't know who would have won in Iowa or Maine because all the votes were not counted and neither do you.  That is the problem.  There is no poll that shows a third party candidate has a chance because they will not.  The best way to change a system is from the inside not pouting on the outside like a soiled child.

Hi John,

I am not suggesting voting for a third party candidate though I am not at all opposed to it. If Ron Paul decides to run as a third party candidate I will certainly vote for him. I really don't know what it will take for people to wake up to the fact that this whole "liberal vs conservative" or "left vs right" or even "Republican vs Democrat" thing is yanked up to be more that what it really is in reality. It's not left vs right my brother. It's the state vs us.
It's not the children of politicians who go on the front lines of all these unnecessary, undeclared wars. It's our children. It's us who pay for the servitude of the debt that is created by the Federal Reserve. Us and our children and their children. It' our freedoms that are lost every day with every new law they pass without regard for what the Constitution says or what the founding fathers said.
When we look at how badly we have been deceived into who we should vote for or who has a chance at winning as if that should matterr to a principled voter, it's obvious that the candidates that are shoved down our throats promote war, debt and loss of liberty while they ignore candidates who promote peace, prosperity and freedom. Go figure right?


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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #225 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 11:29:58 »
Like I said the system will have to be changed from within.  No third party candidate has come close let alone win in 150 years.  I still remember the Ross run and so many just knew he would win.  In the end it just clouded the issues and accomplished nothing.  All a third party will do is give us 4 more years of Obama.  Regardless of what you and other try to claim there is a lot of difference in any of the GOP candidates and Obama.  If we have a rep house, senate and president we have a chance to hold their feet to the fire.  There will be no cuts with Obama he has proven that over and over. 

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« Reply #226 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 11:48:43 »
Like I said the system will have to be changed from within.  No third party candidate has come close let alone win in 150 years.  I still remember the Ross run and so many just knew he would win.  In the end it just clouded the issues and accomplished nothing.  All a third party will do is give us 4 more years of Obama.  Regardless of what you and other try to claim there is a lot of difference in any of the GOP candidates and Obama.  If we have a rep house, senate and president we have a chance to hold their feet to the fire.  There will be no cuts with Obama he has proven that over and over. 

That swhat we were told during the Bush administration. What did we get? They doubled the size of the Dept of Ed, tripled the size of the prescription drug progam (with the help of Santorum) and quadrupled the federal tax credit for renewable resource technologies. They in creased exponentially above and beyond the Clinton-Gore administration spending for social programs. Then they got us into an unnecessary-undeclared war to enforce UN resolutions in Iraq.

Had they only raised taxes Bush might have gone down as one of the best Democrats in history.

In the last election they told us that about McCain who recently authored a bill NDAA that allows the military to arrest and detain  US citizens indefinately without charges being filed against them or their ability to have an attorney represent them. McCain is a HUGE government progressive like Romney,who he endorses and Gingrich and Santorum.
You may "think" there is a big difference but you haven't proven to me on what issues. I have shown you where they are ALL the same and had given you specifics which aren't mentioned in ANY debates or in the mainstream media because they become non issues when all the candidates agree on them.

What do we get? More wars. More debt. Less freedom.

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« Reply #227 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 11:58:11 »
And with Obama and his agenda we get to be Greece.  Bush made lots of mistakes but he also resided over one of the longest periods of prosperity in history.  All a third party will do is insure our collapse by dividing the conservative vote.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #228 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 12:34:56 »
And with Obama and his agenda we get to be Greece.  Bush made lots of mistakes but he also resided over one of the longest periods of prosperity in history.  All a third party will do is insure our collapse by dividing the conservative vote.

Yep

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« Reply #229 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 12:45:47 »
And with Obama and his agenda we get to be Greece.  Bush made lots of mistakes but he also resided over one of the longest periods of prosperity in history.  All a third party will do is insure our collapse by dividing the conservative vote.

Yep

Yep, indeed.  It's like the talk about Romney being somewhat ahead because the opposition to him is split amongst three candidates.  That's why it is a 100% true, beyond debate, no doubt about it fact that each and every person who doesn't follow the Buckley Rule is an active supporter of Barack Hussein Obama. 

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« Reply #230 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 12:52:52 »
And with Obama and his agenda we get to be Greece.  Bush made lots of mistakes but he also resided over one of the longest periods of prosperity in history.  All a third party will do is insure our collapse by dividing the conservative vote.

Yep

Yep, indeed.  It's like the talk about Romney being somewhat ahead because the opposition to him is split amongst three candidates.  That's why it is a 100% true, beyond debate, no doubt about it fact that each and every person who doesn't follow the Buckley Rule is an active supporter of Barack Hussein Obama. 

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« Reply #231 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 13:26:20 »
You live in Texas, Jaime.  Let me know when your primary is getting close so I can tell you who to vote for if you really want to be a good Christian and patriot.

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« Reply #232 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 14:16:54 »
And with Obama and his agenda we get to be Greece.  Bush made lots of mistakes but he also resided over one of the longest periods of prosperity in history.  All a third party will do is insure our collapse by dividing the conservative vote.

What does a third party have to do with anything? Ron Paul is a Republican not a member of any other party. If he's not the nominee however I will write his name on my ballot.

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« Reply #233 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 14:24:59 »
And with Obama and his agenda we get to be Greece.  Bush made lots of mistakes but he also resided over one of the longest periods of prosperity in history.  All a third party will do is insure our collapse by dividing the conservative vote.

What do you think is the reason for our national debt? Obama's policies perhaps? What about the $5.5 TRILLION added during the Bush administration? What about the $1.8 TRILLION added during the Clinton administration? OK, so we've added $5 TRILLION in just three years of Obama. Do you blame Obama for the $5 TRILLION but not Bush or Clinton or BUsh before Clinton or Reagan before that?
Do you care at all about the loss of our frerdoms? What about the constant wars? do you care about what our government does in our names? Did oyu care about our government selling a mad man like Saddam Hussein chemical weapons that he used to gas over 100,000 Iranians and Kurds? What do you think Jesus's position on that would be? Do you think our Lord would want us to support a ruthless dictatorship in Egypt to the tune of $70 BILLION of your tax dollars which he turned around and oppresses his people with causing them to hate us even more?

Or have you so thoroughly bought into the media meme that Obama and Democrats are the evil and if we don't get Obama out all the world will fall into ruin?

Have you seen the video I posted showing how the media is presenting this idea that Ron Paul doesn't exist or that he doesn't stand a chance to win? Do you feel maybe a little manipulated and lied to?

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« Reply #234 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 16:08:03 »
We all know about RP we are just not willing throw up our hands and throw away our country if he is not the nominee.  The reason I mentioned third party because many of his supporters are talking that.  I am getting tired of hearing all the conspiracy theories about RP.  Folks just are not voting for him.  You can quote all the stupid polls you want it is votes that count.  If polls were accurate there would have been a president Dewey among others.

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« Reply #235 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 16:11:39 »

Ron Paul is a Republican not a member of any other party. If he's not the nominee however I will write his name on my ballot.

That's why, unless Paul is the Republican nominee, you will function as an Obama supporter. 

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« Reply #236 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 17:15:04 »

Ron Paul is a Republican not a member of any other party. If he's not the nominee however I will write his name on my ballot.

That's why, unless Paul is the Republican nominee, you will function as an Obama supporter. 

Hey. I am responsible for one vote. My own. I leave the consequences up to God. As for me, I WILL NOT EVER casty a vote for someone who wants more wars, less freedom and deeper debt. That means every one of them except for Ron Paul.
In fact, I could turn this around and say that you voting for Santorum, Gingrich or Romney is also a vote for the same policies that Obama supports. The Federal Reserve, the UN, international trade agreements, the IRS, one world government, authoritarian police state/loss of freedom, growth of government, etc.

It's a matter of conscience for me and I guess it is for you too.

As for people talking about Ron Paul running third party, have you ever noticed that he's never the one who brings it up but they ask him in almost every dabate or every interview?

The establishment is terrified of Ron Paul and his exposure of their failed policies.

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The perception (deception) that Ron Paul cannot win is a deliberate attempt to deceive you. Always remember that this world system is ruled by the powers and principalities of the air until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete. We are instructed to be as innocent as doves but as shrewed as serpants. We are told that the deception will be so great that it might deceive if possible even the elect.

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« Reply #238 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 17:46:31 »
We are not deceived he has not won anything and we don't want to vote for him because of his positions not what the media has to say.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #239 on: Wed Feb 15, 2012 - 20:09:45 »

Ron Paul is a Republican not a member of any other party. If he's not the nominee however I will write his name on my ballot.

That's why, unless Paul is the Republican nominee, you will function as an Obama supporter. 

Though I feel like Newt and Santorum would be a slight improvement over Obama, they'd still spend the country into total oblivion until we couldn't even borrow money to pay for all the military activity that many people want.

Basically, the way I see it, Ron Paul gets elected (or, I repeat, somebody else manages to do what he SAYS he's going to do) or it's the end of the country regardless of which other GOP candidate gets in or whether Obama gets reelected.

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« Reply #240 on: Thu Feb 16, 2012 - 10:04:37 »
We are not deceived he has not won anything and we don't want to vote for him because of his positions not what the media has to say.


Sorry Bro but you have been deceived.

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Those are just two cases. Maine is another where Ron Paul won but it was stolen. Nevada is another. Let's face it. The establishment doesn't want Ron Paul because he exposes them for what they are. Freedom robbers, debt mongers and war mongers.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #241 on: Thu Feb 16, 2012 - 10:50:20 »
If the Ron Paul supporters I've read on here are any indication Paul actually has a very poor understanding of economics.

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« Reply #242 on: Thu Feb 16, 2012 - 11:08:30 »
If the Ron Paul supporters I've read on here are any indication Paul actually has a very poor understanding of economics.


Thats just silly. The trouble is, every time one of you guys says something one of us crazy Ron Paul supporters reply with proof but you never do. You just blurt out inaccurate statements hoping that some one will believe you and the media where you get your information from.

If Ron Paul has a bad understanding of economics then how in the world could he do this?


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« Reply #243 on: Thu Feb 16, 2012 - 14:04:56 »
If the Ron Paul supporters I've read on here are any indication Paul actually has a very poor understanding of economics.

Thats just silly.

No, it isn't.  The Fed is audited every year.  That's a fact.  A gold standard is logically impossible.  That's a fact.   

 

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« Reply #244 on: Thu Feb 16, 2012 - 14:50:20 »
If the Ron Paul supporters I've read on here are any indication Paul actually has a very poor understanding of economics.


Thats just silly.


No, it isn't.  The Fed is audited every year.  That's a fact.  A gold standard is logically impossible.  That's a fact.  

 

Last coment first. The Fed is NOT audited "every year". FACT. There has only been One 1, Uno semi audit of the Fed and it revealed $$TRILLIONS of dollars transfered to foreign banks and corporations that our Congress had no idea about.

FACT Ron Paul predicted the economic collapse YEARS before it happened as it showed in one of the videos in my previous post.

FACT the fiat currency system that you advocate has FAILED and quite miserablly at that! ::eek:: We're now over $15 TRILLION in debt now (with no end in sight)  ::lookaround::which is more than $46,000 for EVERY man woman and child in this country and because of the interest being charged in your beautiful system on money that the Fed created out of thin air, every new born baby is automatically $46,000 in debt from the minute they are born.
I trust Ron Paul over ANY other candidate to stop this maddness.
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