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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2012, 05:30:10 AM »
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Yes I am understanding what you are saying.  No I don't think it is always in our best interest to wait til we are attacked and fight here instead of abroad.  I would much rather have a war fought some where else.  There simply is no way to tie congress down to only declaring war when we are attacked.  If someone say Iran is building a nuke boom and has already said we will use it on the US why should we wait until a few  hundred thousand Americans are dead before taking out that bomb making facility?   
You ask about how we fight a war?  To win.  That means we blowup stuff and kill enough of the enemy until they no longer have the will or means to fight.  It is not a police action nor a nation building nor to settle some other countries civil war.  It is to protect the sovereignty of the United States. 

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2012, 08:07:22 AM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.

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« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2012, 08:13:30 AM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.


 ::pondering:: .........uh.........I'm just wondering here, but perchance, do you consider youself to be a masterherbalist?   ::shrug::

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« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2012, 08:17:51 AM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.


 ::pondering:: .........uh.........I'm just wondering here, but perchance, do you consider youself to be a masterherbalist?   ::shrug::

Are you implying I smoke marijuana because I do not agree with you on political matters?  Simply put, I believe Obama has handled the situation left to him by George W. Bush the best anyone could have.  I believe he deserves another term.

Mitt Romney is the most liberal of the GOP candidates, and if he happens to win, it is better than the rest of the candidates winning.  I am hedging my bets.

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« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2012, 05:01:29 AM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.


 ::pondering:: .........uh.........I'm just wondering here, but perchance, do you consider youself to be a masterherbalist?   ::shrug::

Are you implying I smoke marijuana because I do not agree with you on political matters?  Simply put, I believe Obama has handled the situation left to him by George W. Bush the best anyone could have.  I believe he deserves another term.

Mitt Romney is the most liberal of the GOP candidates, and if he happens to win, it is better than the rest of the candidates winning.  I am hedging my bets.

 ::smile::, please explain this "sound foreign policy" and this "look out for the middle class" that you believe Obama has accomplished?  The situation left him by Bush 43?  I'm sorry, shoot, I thought the dems had full control of both the House and the Senate...............my bad..........as well, did they not maintain this control for the first two years of Obama's Presidency?  How does one believe that he/they have looked out for the middle class when they as yet have not managed to pass a budget?  If you believe that the policies they have enacted were for the benifit of the middle class, then you really, really need to consider changing your registration.  Why on earth did you register as a repub in the first place?  Personally, I don't believe the dems or the repubs have the best interest of anyone other than themselves in mind with the actions they take on a daily basis, but to believe that Obama has been anything other than a failure is simply unbelieveable. 


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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2012, 10:01:32 AM »
but to believe that Obama has been anything other than a failure is simply unbelieveable. 


Really.  Everything Obama touches turns to crap.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2012, 11:57:57 AM »
  I think Obama has done a very good job... I think it was his intention to bring this country to it's knees and he has done that very well.  He has BIG money behind him from foreign countries to do this.  The easiest way to control the masses is thru poverty/dependancy and that is just what he has done.  They hoodwink folks who don't take the time to follow whats really going on here with their sob stories such as the Occupy people... if they would occupy a desk they wouldn't be so down and out... and if you notice, it is the occupy people who are protesting the republican conventions... why, because they will lose their handouts and actually have to work for a living if the republicans get into office.  I am not for the republicans either, they all are crooks with their own agendas nowadays and our forefathers are probably spinning in their graves over this... There are just as many sob stories on the other side also, we all know folks who have lost everything in this recession and have nothing to show for all their hard work, their homes, retirement funds etc... yet the powers that be, the politicians and Wall st people, not a single one has been put in jail for any of this... it is disgusting and disgraceful and what is worse, they are set for life because of their political status... I have to pay all their doctor bills, salon appointments, vacations etc... when I can't afford to buy my own groceries.  There is something very wrong with this picture.  The real question is have we passed the point of no return?  I think the collapse of America is what will allow the antichrist to be ushered in... and how we become a one world political system... very very sad that the American people are sitting back and allowing this to happen...

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2012, 03:50:37 PM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.


 ::pondering:: .........uh.........I'm just wondering here, but perchance, do you consider youself to be a masterherbalist?   ::shrug::

Are you implying I smoke marijuana because I do not agree with you on political matters?  Simply put, I believe Obama has handled the situation left to him by George W. Bush the best anyone could have.  I believe he deserves another term.

Mitt Romney is the most liberal of the GOP candidates, and if he happens to win, it is better than the rest of the candidates winning.  I am hedging my bets.

Ah yes...liberal. So you want more government, more government spending, socialism, more taxes, more regulations, etc? Cause it's worked so dang well for the UK right? Oh wait...they're imploding even worse than we are.

We're already the highest taxing country on businesses in the world and Obama has proposed a higher rate even than we have. No wonder our businesses can't afford to hire. Liberals truly just don't get it and don't understand cause and effect, liberty or the Constitution. George W. Bush was a big-government liberal with a couple of exceptions. Obama has spent more than Bush did in his entire 8 years. He's destroying our future and you think he deserves another 4 years? I was of the impression that we elect a president to another 4 years when they've done something good. Not when they criticized the run-away spending of their predecessor only to OUTSPEND him. Geez.

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« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2012, 04:04:13 PM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.


 ::pondering:: .........uh.........I'm just wondering here, but perchance, do you consider youself to be a masterherbalist?   ::shrug::

Are you implying I smoke marijuana because I do not agree with you on political matters?  Simply put, I believe Obama has handled the situation left to him by George W. Bush the best anyone could have.  I believe he deserves another term.

Mitt Romney is the most liberal of the GOP candidates, and if he happens to win, it is better than the rest of the candidates winning.  I am hedging my bets.

Ah yes...liberal. So you want more government, more government spending, socialism, more taxes, more regulations, etc? Cause it's worked so dang well for the UK right? Oh wait...they're imploding even worse than we are.

We're already the highest taxing country on businesses in the world and Obama has proposed a higher rate even than we have. No wonder our businesses can't afford to hire. Liberals truly just don't get it and don't understand cause and effect, liberty or the Constitution. George W. Bush was a big-government liberal with a couple of exceptions. Obama has spent more than Bush did in his entire 8 years. He's destroying our future and you think he deserves another 4 years? I was of the impression that we elect a president to another 4 years when they've done something good. Not when they criticized the run-away spending of their predecessor only to OUTSPEND him. Geez.

He HAD to spend more to get out of the problems he inherited from George W. Bush.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2012, 04:09:25 PM »
I will be voting in my state's primary for Mitt Romney for the following reasons:

1.  He is the most liberal of the GOP candidates.
2.  Obama will beat him soundly in the general election.

Although, I am a registered Republican, I will be voting for Obama in the general election.  He will continue sound foreign policy and will look out for the middle class.


 ::pondering:: .........uh.........I'm just wondering here, but perchance, do you consider youself to be a masterherbalist?   ::shrug::

Are you implying I smoke marijuana because I do not agree with you on political matters?  Simply put, I believe Obama has handled the situation left to him by George W. Bush the best anyone could have.  I believe he deserves another term.

Mitt Romney is the most liberal of the GOP candidates, and if he happens to win, it is better than the rest of the candidates winning.  I am hedging my bets.

Ah yes...liberal. So you want more government, more government spending, socialism, more taxes, more regulations, etc? Cause it's worked so dang well for the UK right? Oh wait...they're imploding even worse than we are.

We're already the highest taxing country on businesses in the world and Obama has proposed a higher rate even than we have. No wonder our businesses can't afford to hire. Liberals truly just don't get it and don't understand cause and effect, liberty or the Constitution. George W. Bush was a big-government liberal with a couple of exceptions. Obama has spent more than Bush did in his entire 8 years. He's destroying our future and you think he deserves another 4 years? I was of the impression that we elect a president to another 4 years when they've done something good. Not when they criticized the run-away spending of their predecessor only to OUTSPEND him. Geez.

He HAD to spend more to get out of the problems he inherited from George W. Bush.

He got out of the problems of Bush? I didn't realize that.  ::shrug::

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2012, 04:14:02 PM »
Ron Paul.

We need the kind of person who doesn't just appeal to a crowd, but can look at masses and stand his ground.

I don't trust the traditional conservative candidates. They'll recite the conservative mantras that will resound with conservatives where the wind has blown them. I think it's nuts to assume they had a mind of their own.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2012, 04:16:43 PM »
I think Ron Paul's mind on Iran is nuts. Scary part is he is sticking with it.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2012, 04:22:10 PM »
I think Ron Paul's mind on Iran is nuts. Scary part is he is sticking with it.

Then let's go to war with Iran by borrowing more money from its ally, China!

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2012, 04:51:30 PM »
Spoken like a true Ron Paul groupie. ::smile::

PS Has anyone else noticed the likeness to Michelle Obama and Fred Stanford'sister in law?  Sorry just could not resit.

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Re: Who would you vote for today?
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2012, 09:12:51 PM »
Then let's go to war with Iran by borrowing more money from its ally, China!


Cally, thought you might appreciate the following information.

China & foreign countries no longer really buying/holding our federal debt. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/29/us-usa-fed-foreigners-idUSTRE7BS16120111229). The  Federal Reserve has been monetizing because the foreign nations are not investing in the Dollar. Dr. Paul was on the cutting edge on this, but today I heard Newt on C-Span talking about it and sounding a lot like Dr. Paul. Most of the candidates are moving closer & closer to Dr. Paul's positions.

The only issue that is being demonized is Dr. Paul's foreign policy regarding Iran. Its not that they do not understand the position, they do. They are using the issue like a political football for political gain.

The current candidates are not stupid and are well informed on geo-politics. They know that Russia is the Iranian nuclear program. They know that China is the majority consumer of Iranian oil. They know Russia & China are linked economically as well. They know that Iran is basically a vassal state to the Chino-Russian superpower alliance. They know Russia & China will not give or allow Iran to get "the bomb" because it will destabilize their current growing economic power structure & energy needs.

China is working behind the scenes to establish its currency at the reserve currency by taking direct action against the US dollar current status.

Back in October China announced a new bank that would trade in the Yuan with an invitation towards South Korea & more importantly Japan. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/us-china-asean-financial-idUSTRE79Q2F520111027

On December 25 China & Japan announced  direct trading with the Yen & the Yuan no longer trading with the US Dollar. Remember Japan is the 2cnd largest consumer of Iranian oil, now they can just buy Iranian oil from China instead of Iran.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-25/china-japan-to-promote-direct-trading-of-currencies-to-cut-company-costs.html

December 25 Japan also announced it would be investing in Chinese Government Bonds as well.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/25/us-japan-china-bonds-idUSTRE7BO06G20111225

December 28 Japan loans India 15 Billion to shore up Rupee against Western/European currency crisis pulling the 3rd largest Asian economy into dependency on the Japan/China alliance and way from the US.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-28/japan-india-seal-15-billion-currency-swap-arrangement-to-shore-up-rupee.html

These are major steps in China's growing global alliance, especially the moves that are consolidating partnerships with historical US allies such as Japan, South Korea, & India.

It was just two years ago in December that Russia & China agreed on direct trade of currency as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/business/global/15iht-ruble15.html

These are huge stories with major & lasting impacts you are not hearing discussed on corporate Talking Head TV.


Basically it is undeclared economic war on the west. An economic war that is being waged when the west is at its weakest. While folks where worried about the puppet state of Iran, China smiles. If they west follows through with sanctions on Iran, oil prices will dramatically spike. Seriously stalling the already fragile economies of the West. If the West attacks Iran, they can expect immediate economic repercussions with Iran's trading partner's, aka China & her new coalition, even further destabilizing, if not destroying the West's fragile economies.

By the way, did you know on December 7 Chinese President Hu Jintao told the Chinese military to "prepare for war"? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-16063607

Yesterday, China just warned us about our newly announced military strategy
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/world/asia/chinese-news-agency-xinhua-warns-us-against-militarism.html?_r=1&ref=china

Like Paul Harvey used to say " now you have the rest of the story".
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