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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #245 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 14:48:51 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #246 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:01:18 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

Not only do those who "add to the things in this book" lose their rewards in this life now especially,
but it's said that "all liars" do a stint in the hot house!

But it's not too late to be a nice person.  What you said to EdwardG comes from a nasty woman!




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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #247 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:04:58 »
"In this present world, I do preach the Gospel."

Why?

Tell me your purpose since you think this has already been done long ago

How do you witness to one who is lost .......... what do you say?

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #248 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:11:25 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

Not only do those who "add to the things in this book" lose their rewards in this life now especially,
but it's said that "all liars" do a stint in the hot house!

But it's not too late to be a nice person.  What you said to EdwardG comes from a nasty woman!





As preterism is one huge lie or a body of lies, then get ready for the heat.

Takes a nasty to know one, except it also takes a nasty to have an aversion to nice, and the truth of the word.

I'm a nice one, praise God!

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #249 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:14:21 »
"In this present world, I do preach the Gospel."

Why?

Tell me your purpose since you think this has already been done long ago

How do you witness to one who is lost .......... what do you say?

You misunderstand what "we" have said. Yes, the gospel was preached to the whole known world at the time, as the Scriptures say, but that does not mean Christians were to stop spreading the gospel!
It just proves that THEIR great commission was completed.

And the world has also grown in size, so there is every reason to continue!

Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. (Isaiah 9:7)

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #250 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:17:32 »
"In this present world, I do preach the Gospel."

Why?

Tell me your purpose since you think this has already been done long ago

How do you witness to one who is lost .......... what do you say?

You misunderstand what "we" have said. Yes, the gospel was preached to the whole known world at the time, as the Scriptures say, but that does not mean Christians were to stop spreading the gospel!
It just proves that THEIR great commission was completed.

And the world has also grown in size, so there is every reason to continue!

Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. (Isaiah 9:7)

False. the Great Commission is still in effect until Jesus comes again. If you think he has already come, what and WHY do you preach?

In the Millennium, people will already know Jesus, as he will be ruling from David's throne in Jerusalem. Every human being born during that time will be raised knowing Jesus as literal King of the world.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #251 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:19:07 »

I wasn't answering your question.

Don't be rude!

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #252 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:23:52 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #253 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:25:44 »

I wasn't answering your question.

Don't be rude!

Anyone can post. If you don't like it, ignore it. Don't be rude as usual.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #254 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:27:50 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #255 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:32:11 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #256 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:41:32 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #257 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:47:46 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.


Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Our bodies are made of flesh, how else do you expect us to reign on earth? As ghostly apparitions?  rofl


Wait a minute, let me answer those again, you use tricky language.

Yes

No

No

Yes.

I only needed to change the answer to the third question. Do I not is confusing.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #258 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:51:23 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.


Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Our bodies are made of flesh, how else do you expect us to reign on earth? As ghostly apparitions?  rofl


So, are you saying that you have now succumbed to the preterist nonsense? If so, then you have been too easily duped. Hopefully someone will be able to reach you about the truth, and hopefully you will be the only one here who will allow themselves to be deviated away from the narrow path.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #259 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 15:54:28 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.


Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Our bodies are made of flesh, how else do you expect us to reign on earth? As ghostly apparitions?  rofl


So, are you saying that you have now succumbed to the preterist nonsense? If so, then you have been too easily duped. Hopefully someone will be able to reach you about the truth, and hopefully you will be the only one here who will allow themselves to be deviated away from the narrow path.

I've just now met a couple people here that think the way I do, only a handful. I don't think it can get any narrower than this.  ::smile::

Can you answer my question about how you think people will reign on earth? I answered all of your questions.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #260 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:02:01 »
"some differing is harmless and doesn't come between people of Christ becasue we just won't let it."

We who??? I guess you haven't been on youtube lately... the shameful way dispensationalists treat other dispensationalists for "some harmless differing" is not lacking on the internet. I think it's one big reason why people are flocking to Atheism. Remember the famous quote: ...your Christians are so unlike your Christ? I don't think this comes from Christians disagreeing, but from Christians branding each other as heretics and devil pawns for disagreeing. It is very sad and greatly hinders the gospel of grace.

Seems to me that  far too many people who say they are Christians have an overly active interest in YouTube videos, and don't seem to grasp the fact that most of them are sensationalist drivel! That is NO PLACE to discover the truth on anything!

Come down to reality.

When one preaches a heresy, and rejects the correction of God, then one is a heretic. Plain and simple bible truth. Preterism isn't just a little variance. It is a downright Satanic construct! Of course it hinders grace! It wants to eradicate it from people's lives!

I agree, there's a LOT of crazy stuff on youtube. But there are lots of good things as well. My point was not to go to youtube to seek truth, just that the multitudes of Christians who are all of the mainstream dispensational system of belief, bickering back and forth and saying shameful things to each other are evidence against your theory that "some differing is harmless" and people don't let those differences divide them.

ps- how exactly does preterism eradicate grace?

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #261 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:03:46 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.


Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Our bodies are made of flesh, how else do you expect us to reign on earth? As ghostly apparitions?  rofl


So, are you saying that you have now succumbed to the preterist nonsense? If so, then you have been too easily duped. Hopefully someone will be able to reach you about the truth, and hopefully you will be the only one here who will allow themselves to be deviated away from the narrow path.

I've just now met a couple people here that think the way I do, only a handful. I don't think it can get any narrower than this.  ::smile::

Can you answer my question about how you think people will reign on earth? I answered all of your questions.

What way is that that you all think?

What is the narrow road spoken of in the Bible?

People will reign on Earth in the Millennial kingdom because the bible says so:


[ The Saints Reign with Christ 1000 Years ] And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4


Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:6

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #262 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:07:45 »
"some differing is harmless and doesn't come between people of Christ becasue we just won't let it."

We who??? I guess you haven't been on youtube lately... the shameful way dispensationalists treat other dispensationalists for "some harmless differing" is not lacking on the internet. I think it's one big reason why people are flocking to Atheism. Remember the famous quote: ...your Christians are so unlike your Christ? I don't think this comes from Christians disagreeing, but from Christians branding each other as heretics and devil pawns for disagreeing. It is very sad and greatly hinders the gospel of grace.

Seems to me that  far too many people who say they are Christians have an overly active interest in YouTube videos, and don't seem to grasp the fact that most of them are sensationalist drivel! That is NO PLACE to discover the truth on anything!

Come down to reality.

When one preaches a heresy, and rejects the correction of God, then one is a heretic. Plain and simple bible truth. Preterism isn't just a little variance. It is a downright Satanic construct! Of course it hinders grace! It wants to eradicate it from people's lives!

I agree, there's a LOT of crazy stuff on youtube. But there are lots of good things as well. My point was not to go to youtube to seek truth, just that the multitudes of Christians who are all of the mainstream dispensational system of belief, bickering back and forth and saying shameful things to each other are evidence against your theory that "some differing is harmless" and people don't let those differences divide them.

ps- how exactly does preterism eradicate grace?

There is no such thing as a dispensational belief system. Christians do have some differences but most of them are not something that needs to cause harm or major division.

Preterism is not one of those harmless beliefs---it causes complete division in the Body of  Christ. As a divisive belief that runs counter to the word and to the Body of Chrsit, if I were you, I would use the wisdom that God gives and cast it aside.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #263 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:12:56 »
"In this present world, I do preach the Gospel."

Why?

Tell me your purpose since you think this has already been done long ago



Asked and answered: http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/end-times-forum/gospel-preached-to-all-the-world-before-70ad/msg1054655987/#msg1054655987

What is it that you do not understand about the old covenant world of Judaism?

Oh, rats!  I keep forgetting that you do not see any biblical significance in the AD70 destruction of Jerusalem and the scattering of the holy people who refused to believe in Jesus...sorry, about that.
« Last Edit: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:24:06 by EdwardGoodie »

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #264 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:15:18 »

In the Millennium, people will already know Jesus, as he will be ruling from David's throne in Jerusalem. Every human being born during that time will be raised knowing Jesus as literal King of the world.

There's that ridiculous Pharisaic doctrine of desiring a physical throne...again.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #265 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:16:33 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.


Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Our bodies are made of flesh, how else do you expect us to reign on earth? As ghostly apparitions?  rofl


So, are you saying that you have now succumbed to the preterist nonsense? If so, then you have been too easily duped. Hopefully someone will be able to reach you about the truth, and hopefully you will be the only one here who will allow themselves to be deviated away from the narrow path.

I've just now met a couple people here that think the way I do, only a handful. I don't think it can get any narrower than this.  ::smile::

Can you answer my question about how you think people will reign on earth? I answered all of your questions.

What way is that that you all think?

It's similar.

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What is the narrow road spoken of in the Bible?

It's not the one that has droves of people on it.

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People will reign on Earth in the Millennial kingdom because the bible says so:

You said when or if my physical body dies. I told you that we exist in the flesh on earth, we cannot reign any other way. Are you disagreeing with this because you still haven't answered it?

Is a thousand years and the same as forever to you? Because you said you will live forever with your Jesus, that's the same as 1,000 years?

I really don't understand your position, can you just answer with a simple yes or no?

James 5:12 Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple “Yes

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #266 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:18:16 »

In the Millennium, people will already know Jesus, as he will be ruling from David's throne in Jerusalem. Every human being born during that time will be raised knowing Jesus as literal King of the world.

There's that ridiculous Pharisaic doctrine of desiring a physical throne...again.

You can call it ridiculous if you want, and even Pharisaical, but I wouldn't if I were you, because it is the Bible truth, and there is a very real penalty for denouncing what God has spoken.

I wouldn't wanna beya.

I can only hope and pray that God has mercy on Biblical ignorance. However, he won't have mercy on those who claim Christ and only have a head knowledge of Him and not a heart knowledge.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #267 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:21:46 »

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already?

If you belong to the kingdom of God when you got saved, then you already have a kingdom and a king.  Yet you still wait for one to come....hmmmmm.

Do you see Jesus anywhere?

Nope.  That is because He dwells within us...but maybe not you 'cause you are looking for a physical king, just like the Pharisees were...

If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

I guess you did not realize that immortality comes via the Gospel of Jesus Christ - even though I have posted this verse several times throughout this forum in answer to the same unending types of questions.

2 Timothy 1:10 - But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:  

It seems that it is your The Highlander TV series that is running your definition of immortality.




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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #268 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:24:27 »
Popularity isn't important. Truth is.

I will never die. I will live forever with my Jesus.




Revelation 18:7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'

Trolls are not allowed.

If you don't know Jesus as your personal Saviour then you will die in your sin and never live again. If you do not share the Living Hope we have in Jesus Christ, then stop the pretending.

When or if my physical body dies, I will live forever with my King, Jesus. That is not death. What about you?

What about me? I don't have to wait for when or if, forever and ever and ever and ever already exists.  ::smile::

Please don't deny our existence with God.

Yes, what about you?

Do you understand that there is a literal kingdom yet to come, that we as its citizens already will take up residence within as its government?

Yet to come isn't the same as forever and ever. Sorry, try again.  ::smile::

Do you not understand that when we accept Jesus as Saviour that we are accepted in the family of God and His Kingdom forever? Do you also not understand that there is a promise of a literal earthly reign of Jesus Christ yet to come? In addition, do you not realize that the preterists you are fraternizing with on this board believe that Jesus has already returned and that this is the Millennial age already? Do you see Jesus anywhere? If you are a Christian, why are you still mortal?

You try again.


Yes.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

Our bodies are made of flesh, how else do you expect us to reign on earth? As ghostly apparitions?  rofl


So, are you saying that you have now succumbed to the preterist nonsense? If so, then you have been too easily duped. Hopefully someone will be able to reach you about the truth, and hopefully you will be the only one here who will allow themselves to be deviated away from the narrow path.

I've just now met a couple people here that think the way I do, only a handful. I don't think it can get any narrower than this.  ::smile::

Can you answer my question about how you think people will reign on earth? I answered all of your questions.

What way is that that you all think?

It's similar.

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What is the narrow road spoken of in the Bible?

It's not the one that has droves of people on it.

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People will reign on Earth in the Millennial kingdom because the bible says so:

You said when or if my physical body dies. I told you that we exist in the flesh on earth, we cannot reign any other way. Are you disagreeing with this because you still haven't answered it?

Is a thousand years and the same as forever to you? Because you said you will live forever with your Jesus, that's the same as 1,000 years?

I really don't understand your position, can you just answer with a simple yes or no?

James 5:12 Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple “Yes

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #269 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:33:11 »

If you belong to the kingdom of God when you got saved, then you already have a kingdom and a king.  Yet you still wait for one to come....hmmmmm.

That I do! I am a citizen of heaven now and I will realize that literally when Jesus comes and presents me with it.


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Nope.  That is because He dwells within us...but maybe not you 'cause you are looking for a physical king, just like the Pharisees were...

Yes he does! In spirit! However when he comes we will see him and be with him forever! You see? The logic of that is that he has not come back yet!

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I guess you did not realize that immortality comes via the Gospel of Jesus Christ - even though I have posted this verse several times throughout this forum in answer to the same unending types of questions.

LOL! Well, as a Spirit-filled Christian I am immortal, but my flesh is still made out of dirt, and will decay one day, should I die before Jesus comes and changes my body from dust to glorified flesh! This perishable will put on imperishable!

Ready?


Read!

46 What comes first is the natural body, then the spiritual body comes later. 47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven. 48 Earthly people are like the earthly man, and heavenly people are like the heavenly man. 49 Just as we are now like the earthly man, we will someday be like the heavenly man.

 50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

 51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed! 52 It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed. 53 For our dying bodies must be transformed into bodies that will never die; our mortal bodies must be transformed into immortal bodies.

 54 Then, when our dying bodies have been transformed into bodies that will never die, this Scripture will be fulfilled:

   “Death is swallowed up in victory.
 55 O death, where is your victory?
      O death, where is your sting?

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #270 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:41:30 »

I can only hope and pray that God has mercy on Biblical ignorance. However, he won't have mercy on those who claim Christ and only have a head knowledge of Him and not a heart knowledge.

Do you really hope that? Because I haven't seen you give mercy too much here. More condemnation than anything. I agree, heart knowledge is essential. The evidence of this is in a transformed life, when a person who once loved sin and lived happily in it turns to Jesus in faith, trusting Him as Lord and Savior, walking with Him in humility and obedience, seeking to see as He opens their understanding. Merryone, I don't deny that you love the Lord as I do. We have the same King, we are blessed by the same blood of Calvary, we desire to obey the commandments of the same Lawgiver, who writes His laws on our hearts. We both believe His promises as we understand them. Our difference, in my mind, consists of your being convinced that God has yet to fulfill them and my conviction that He already has in Christ.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #271 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 16:58:57 »

I can only hope and pray that God has mercy on Biblical ignorance. However, he won't have mercy on those who claim Christ and only have a head knowledge of Him and not a heart knowledge.

Do you really hope that? Because I haven't seen you give mercy too much here. More condemnation than anything. I agree, heart knowledge is essential. The evidence of this is in a transformed life, when a person who once loved sin and lived happily in it turns to Jesus in faith, trusting Him as Lord and Savior, walking with Him in humility and obedience, seeking to see as He opens their understanding. Merryone, I don't deny that you love the Lord as I do. We have the same King, we are blessed by the same blood of Calvary, we desire to obey the commandments of the same Lawgiver, who writes His laws on our hearts. We both believe His promises as we understand them. Our difference, in my mind, consists of your being convinced that God has yet to fulfill them and my conviction that He already has in Christ.

O contraire, mon ami!  They do not have the same King.  For them, He [Jesus] is NOT reigning.  For Him to be reigning, it must mean that He has a kingdom to be reigning over.  This they willfully deny.

Jesus spoke only of THE kingdom.  The apostles only spoke of THE kingdom.  There is only one kingdom.  This they deny also.  Just ask them, Raggthyme...

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #272 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 17:15:46 »

I can only hope and pray that God has mercy on Biblical ignorance. However, he won't have mercy on those who claim Christ and only have a head knowledge of Him and not a heart knowledge.

Do you really hope that? Because I haven't seen you give mercy too much here. More condemnation than anything. I agree, heart knowledge is essential. The evidence of this is in a transformed life, when a person who once loved sin and lived happily in it turns to Jesus in faith, trusting Him as Lord and Savior, walking with Him in humility and obedience, seeking to see as He opens their understanding. Merryone, I don't deny that you love the Lord as I do. We have the same King, we are blessed by the same blood of Calvary, we desire to obey the commandments of the same Lawgiver, who writes His laws on our hearts. We both believe His promises as we understand them. Our difference, in my mind, consists of your being convinced that God has yet to fulfill them and my conviction that He already has in Christ.

O contraire, mon ami!  They do not have the same King.  For them, He [Jesus] is NOT reigning.  For Him to be reigning, it must mean that He has a kingdom to be reigning over.  This they willfully deny.

Jesus spoke only of THE kingdom.  The apostles only spoke of THE kingdom.  There is only one kingdom.  This they deny also.  Just ask them, Raggthyme...

You have a very dull sense of what is truth and what isn't. There you go, correcting one of your own proselytes! Confusion abounds!

Jesus Christ is reigning. However, not physically on Earth as is promised. Right now he is reigning in his spiritual kingdom.

He's my King!

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #273 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 17:32:59 »
Merryone wrote:
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Only the KNOWN world at that time was reached. The world is still being reached and then the end will come...


Exactly! Jesus was speaking about the world THEN KNOWN to THEM. The mandate was fulfilled to THAT world and the end came.

Thanks!

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #274 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 18:04:33 »
Merryone wrote:
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Only the KNOWN world at that time was reached. The world is still being reached and then the end will come...


Exactly! Jesus was speaking about the world THEN KNOWN to THEM. The mandate was fulfilled to THAT world and the end came.

Thanks!

thinker







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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #275 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 18:36:13 »
Exactly! Jesus was speaking about the world THEN KNOWN to THEM. The mandate was fulfilled to THAT world and the end came.


Looks like the thinker is trying to push his brand of dispensational exegesis

.... just depends upon which one .... right thinker?

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #276 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 20:32:18 »
"I can provide citations if you like"


I would like to see you try this with the historical record .... you cannot honestly do it

The preterist likes to take snipits of scripture out of context and then apply them to the preterist dogma

Revelation 16 must be taken in full context and the events all taken together simply do not describe the overthrow of ancient Babylon by the Medes and the Persians

Historical allegory is the preterist's favorite deception tool and the idea that diverting the Euphrates to conquer ancient Babylon is to be applied to the interpretation of Revelation 16 is a shining example

Take a scripture out of context, apply it to some past event, commit the balance of the surrounding context to allegory by escaping a literal definition, and then rely upon peoples' ignorance of recorded History

How pathetic is this meddling with the Lord's Word ..... and yet the preterist claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ

Do not for get this [Matthew 24:4-5] 
I don't think you quite understood my post.  It isn't prophecying the event that happened in the past, it's just making reference to the event, in order to say that in the future, what happens will be LIKE that event.

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #277 on: Tue Jan 10, 2012 - 20:34:13 »

Jesus Christ is reigning. However, not physically on Earth as is promised. Right now he is reigning in his spiritual kingdom.

He's my King!

Ahhhhh...the answer I expected.

For you to believe what you just said, you must believe in two kingdoms having two different natures and occurring at two different times.

Yet the Bible speaks only of THE kingdom which does not come with observation. And it is not Earth, it is earth.  The same kind of usage expressed with Cain:

Genesis 4:14-  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.  

No one from that first century ever associated earth with the Planet Earth.  The planet hadn't even gotten its name by then.  This would come MUCH MUCH later.  So much for your ridiculous 21st century Western scientific cultural hermeneutic.




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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #278 on: Wed Jan 11, 2012 - 12:32:46 »
unlocked in hopes that it will continue in a peaceful discourse

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Re: Gospel preached to all the world before 70AD
« Reply #279 on: Wed Jan 11, 2012 - 13:02:52 »
unlocked in hopes that it will continue in a peaceful discourse

Thanks, Yogi.  Appreciate it.

Now, if someone would like to explain why they disagree with what the INSPIRED Apostle said regarding to the Gospel being preached to all the "world," etc.???