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Re: Hey Futurists! Proof that the Revelation is NOT Literal
« Reply #150 on: March 07, 2012, 04:04:25 PM »
JohnDB70X7 said to thethinker:
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And you still haven't learned apparently that God can use a shepherd in the field with the Holy Spirit tutelage to confound scholars of your level and much farther beyond.

It was you who first said that I don't know my Bible and I replied. Had you not started it first this exchange would not be happening.

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You don't impress me one wit because you buy into a heresy (Preterism) and you try to brow beat your opponents like some cyber bully.  I enjoy showing you up immensely.

Heresy and apostasy is strictly defined in scripture as drawing back to the old covenant (Hebrews 5-6). Do Preterists teach that animal sacrifices will be reinstituted in a future temple? No! It's you guys who teach such damnable things! What's more important to you anyway? Your soteriology or your eschatology? If your eschatology causes you to utter such foolish things about God reinstituting animal sacrifices after the blood of Christ abolished those things, then there is something gravely wrong with your eschatology.

If your eschatology causes you to "crucify the Son of God again and put Him to an open shame" then you obviously put soteriology at the bottom of your priority list. The doctrine of salvation is the MOST IMPORTANT doctrine in the Bible!

It is good for you that God is forgiving!

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I told you when the meaning of at hand changed but you won't listen to the testimony of scripture when I said at hand to God is much longer than at hand to man.

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

God told Ezekiel that "at hand" means "in YOUR days" (Ezekiel 12:21-28). Jesus said, "he who betrays me is "at hand." Peter did not say that one day IS a thousand years to the Lord. He said that one day is AS a thousand years to the Lord. Peter applied it to the apostate's assessment of time. He did NOT say that to God's people one day is a thousand years or even as a thousand years. He was replying to the way the apostates count time.

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A thousand years as a day and a day as a thousand years shows that God is not restricted by time as we are.

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Re: Hey Futurists! Proof that the Revelation is NOT Literal
« Reply #151 on: March 07, 2012, 07:02:37 PM »
JohnDB70X7 said to thethinker:
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And you still haven't learned apparently that God can use a shepherd in the field with the Holy Spirit tutelage to confound scholars of your level and much farther beyond.

It was you who first said that I don't know my Bible and I replied. Had you not started it first this exchange would not be happening.

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You don't impress me one wit because you buy into a heresy (Preterism) and you try to brow beat your opponents like some cyber bully.  I enjoy showing you up immensely.

Heresy and apostasy is strictly defined in scripture as drawing back to the old covenant (Hebrews 5-6). Do Preterists teach that animal sacrifices will be reinstituted in a future temple? No! It's you guys who teach such damnable things! What's more important to you anyway? Your soteriology or your eschatology? If your eschatology causes you to utter such foolish things about God reinstituting animal sacrifices after the blood of Christ abolished those things, then there is something gravely wrong with your eschatology.

If your eschatology causes you to "crucify the Son of God again and put Him to an open shame" then you obviously put soteriology at the bottom of your priority list. The doctrine of salvation is the MOST IMPORTANT doctrine in the Bible!

It is good for you that God is forgiving!

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I told you when the meaning of at hand changed but you won't listen to the testimony of scripture when I said at hand to God is much longer than at hand to man.

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

God told Ezekiel that "at hand" means "in YOUR days" (Ezekiel 12:21-28). Jesus said, "he who betrays me is "at hand." Peter did not say that one day IS a thousand years to the Lord. He said that one day is AS a thousand years to the Lord. Peter applied it to the apostate's assessment of time. He did NOT say that to God's people one day is a thousand years or even as a thousand years. He was replying to the way the apostates count time.

thinker
A thousand years as a day and a day as a thousand years shows that God is not restricted by time as we are.

And a vast amount of time to us is like no time at all to God. Ten thousand times ten thousand would be soon , near, at hand to eternal God.