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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #35 on: Sun Jan 18, 2009 - 17:11:15 »
According to the Roman Catholic church...the only protestants today are......

"The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, unfallable authority given her by her founder, Jesus Christ.
The Protestant claiming the Bible to be their only guide to faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.
In this matter, the Seventh-Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant", ("The Catholic Universe Bulletin', August 14, 1942).

"It was the Catholic church which by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to Sunday....Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protesant is in homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the Catholic Church", (Monsignor
Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestant of Today', Page 213).


Paul, Acts 20.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #36 on: Mon Jan 19, 2009 - 09:03:27 »
According to the Roman Catholic church...the only protestants today are......

"The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, unfallable authority given her by her founder, Jesus Christ.
The Protestant claiming the Bible to be their only guide to faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.
In this matter, the Seventh-Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant", ("The Catholic Universe Bulletin', August 14, 1942).

"It was the Catholic church which by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to Sunday....Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protesant is in homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the Catholic Church", (Monsignor
Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestant of Today', Page 213).


Paul, Acts 20.

Another Catholic, obviously.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #37 on: Mon Jan 19, 2009 - 12:40:26 »



Paul, Acts 20.

Another Catholic, obviously.

Maybe Paul was catholic. Afterall, isn't he refered to as St. Paul? If he had been CoC he would be Brother Paul.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #38 on: Mon Jan 19, 2009 - 12:55:13 »
According to the Roman Catholic church...the only protestants today are......

"The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, unfallable authority given her by her founder, Jesus Christ.
The Protestant claiming the Bible to be their only guide to faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.
In this matter, the Seventh-Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant", ("The Catholic Universe Bulletin', August 14, 1942).

"It was the Catholic church which by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to Sunday....Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protesant is in homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the Catholic Church", (Monsignor
Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestant of Today', Page 213).



Sir:
If you are going to preface a statement with the words "According to the Catholic Church...." then you cannot go on to quote some non-authoritative magazine or periodical. If you are going to preface a statement with the words "According to the Catholic Church...." then you need to quote either a conciliar document or the official Catechism.

Now here is what the Catechism says regarding protestants:
source link: http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church" (Unitatis redintegratio 3 § 1).

819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth" (Lumen Gentium 8 § 2) are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements" (UR 3 § 2; cf. LG 15). Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him (Cf. UR 3), and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity" (Cf. LG 8).


ALSO:

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter" (LG 15). Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church" (UR 3). With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist" (Paul VI, Discourse, December 14, 1975; cf. UR 13-18).

I respect people's different beliefs and everyone's right to believe them. But if you are going to try to represent Catholic beliefs, then represent them accurately please. A Catholic periodical article is no more an authoritative representation of Catholic doctrine than an article in some other magazine is an an authoritative representation of your denominations's doctrine.

The two documents quoted in the aboce Catechism sections, Unitatis redintegratio and Lumen Gentium, are Vatican II conciliar documents and therefore authoritative representations of Catholic beliefs.




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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #39 on: Mon Jan 19, 2009 - 15:25:30 »
You seem to be up on the fine points of Catholic law but would the average Catholic know this or would he get his information from periodicals or books like 3AM quoted from?

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #40 on: Mon Jan 19, 2009 - 17:25:55 »
You seem to be up on the fine points of Catholic law but would the average Catholic know this or would he get his information from periodicals or books like 3AM quoted from?

Its not "law", its the teaching (i.e. doctrine) of the Church.
But having said that, Catholics are just like anyone else: There are those who take the time to study their faith, and those who just warm up a pew every Sunday. I'd venture to guess that protestants couldf be divided up about the same way.

For those who do know their faith, I'd say YES, the average Catholic DOES know this. Many of them may not quote the Catechism verbatim as I did, but there is a general sense among Catholics - even Catholics who do NOT study much - that protestants are Christian brothers and sisters just like we are. It is sad to say the threre are large segments of protestantism who do not reciprocate the same sentiments back towards us.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #41 on: Sat Feb 14, 2009 - 23:13:13 »
All I know is my church is called A violent and extremely radical body of ecclesiastico-civil reformers which first made its appearance in 1521 at Zwickau, in the present kingdom of Saxony, and still exists in milder forms.

All because I am in a  church that follows the anabaptist belief.

Makes me even prouder to be so hated by the catholics.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #42 on: Mon Feb 16, 2009 - 11:01:08 »
I must admit that I am rather shocked by this post. For the Catholic Church to teach that they are the " One true Church " is against all that the Scripture declare.

If Catholics would just read the Bible for themselves,Sorry, I forgot they are not allowed to do that, unless that has changed.

Christ died on the Cross for all those who would by Faith receive and accept Him as Saviour.

To say that Christ died only for Catholics is an Abomination.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #43 on: Sun Mar 01, 2009 - 13:40:45 »
And that message is to abandon Sunday worship services, as they are the Mark of Authorty by the Roman Catholic church.

DOCUMENTATION:

"Protestants accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship 'after' the Catholic Church made the change .....BUT the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that....in observing the Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope", ('Our Sunday Visitor', February 5, 1950).

   Romans 6:16   "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ?"


"Sunday is a Catholic insitution,and its claims to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles....From the beginning of scripture to the end (Genesis-Revelation) there is not one single passage that warrants the transfer of public worship from the 7th day of the week, to the 1st day of the week", ('Catholic Press', Sydney, Autralia, August, 1900).


"IF Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a Law of the Catholic Church" (Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920).

"The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, unfallable authority given her by her founder, Jesus Christ.
The Protestant claiming the Bible to be their only guide to faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.
In this matter, the Seventh-Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant", ("The Catholic Universe Bulletin', August 14, 1942).


"It was the Catholic church which by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to Sunday....Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protesant is in homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the Catholic Church", (Monsignor
Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestant of Today', Page 213).

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #44 on: Sun Mar 01, 2009 - 16:11:30 »
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"IF Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a Law of the Catholic Church" (Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920).

What about Acts 20:7?

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #45 on: Thu Mar 12, 2009 - 14:43:41 »
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"IF Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a Law of the Catholic Church" (Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920).
Acts 20:7 has nothing to do with Christ's Resurrection.

Towards the end of the chapter it plainly states that that sunday meeting was a farewell meeting for Paul, as the verse says, thhat they would nevewr see him again.

20:36   And when he had thus spoken, he kneeled down, and prayed with them all. 
  20:37   And they all wept sore, and fell on Paul's neck, and kissed him, 
  20:38   Sorrowing most of all for the words which he spake, that they should see his face no more. And they accompanied him unto the ship. 

What about Acts 20:7?

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #46 on: Sat Apr 04, 2009 - 21:29:25 »
The word Protestant actually refers to anyone who is not of the Catholic religion. Baptists were never a part of that religion and formed separately, which is why it was so strongly persecuted by the Roman Catholic religion.


Hi My name is Mike and I go by mike123. I have spent the last five years in a Catholic Protestant chat room on AOL. Aol has now cut many boards and mine was one of them. I have now found this one. In my five years I have learned much about the Catholic Protestant arguments. I have heard them all. I am now neither Catholic or Protestant but have kept my faith. I am a follower of Christ just as they were when the church was first born of 120 followers who waited for the promise of the Holy spirit and received power to be bold witnesses for Christ on the day of Pentecost.
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Please note that there was no Roman catholic church At pentecost niether was there any Protestant denominationalism. These followers were just who they were. disciples and followers of Christ. There were no popes or cardinals waring fancy vestments or hats.   They were not even called Christins yet let alone Catholic. There is no known usage of the word catholic before Ignatius used it 100 years latter. It was just a term he chose to use that means universal church. One universal faith in Christ. A term yhat caught on and became aterm for the church Still there was no RCC then and inatius was speaking of followers of christ. Remember that the Roman catholic church did come to be until after Constantine another two hundred years later. Inatius did not use this word in any connection nor is it synonomous with what the RCC when it became a religious political church that forced its religion on the whole Empire. By the true defination of the word all beleivers are catholic, we are not all  Roman Catholic nor are we subject the the pope.

There is much more to all this. But I will post more latter. this is good for a start. 
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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #47 on: Sun Apr 05, 2009 - 10:29:15 »
The word Protestant actually refers to anyone who is not of the Catholic religion. Baptists were never a part of that religion and formed separately, which is why it was so strongly persecuted by the Roman Catholic religion.

And Yet, Baptists hold Catholic Doctrines, even to this day.

So then, How can it be said that they are totally separated ?

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #48 on: Sun Apr 05, 2009 - 11:00:42 »
The word Protestant actually refers to anyone who is not of the Catholic religion. Baptists were never a part of that religion and formed separately, which is why it was so strongly persecuted by the Roman Catholic religion.

And Yet, Baptists hold Catholic Doctrines, even to this day.

So then, How can it be said that they are totally separated ?

SDA's have a Virgin Mary that they worship named Ellen G. White.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #49 on: Sun Apr 05, 2009 - 11:10:14 »
The word Protestant actually refers to anyone who is not of the Catholic religion. Baptists were never a part of that religion and formed separately, which is why it was so strongly persecuted by the Roman Catholic religion.

And Yet, Baptists hold Catholic Doctrines, even to this day.

So then, How can it be said that they are totally separated ?

SDA's have a Virgin Mary that they worship named Ellen G. White.
From your statement here, I see that you don't know what SDA's believe.

Well then, before anyone gets the wrong impression by that statement error.

 Anyone who has ever known a 7th Day Adventist, knows SDA's only acknowledge Jesus Christ, as Lord and Savior.

 And, the Bible is the final authority of every SDA.

There are some people out there who hate SDA's (Revelation 12:17), because the Bible has identified them as God's Last day movement, to prepare people for Christ's soon return.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #50 on: Thu Apr 16, 2009 - 12:34:42 »

There are some people out there who hate SDA's (Revelation 12:17), because the Bible has identified them as God's Last day movement, to prepare people for Christ's soon return.
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Thanks for the laugh. 

Your denomination when you get to Heaven will fall off, when you get to Hell it will burn off. 


SDA's are not the true church neither is the Roman Catholics or any one protestant denomination. 

The Church that The Bible speaks of are followers of CHRIST.  No matter what faith, race or creed.

If you do not like the truth that I have spoken then cry me a river, build yourself a bridge and get over it.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #51 on: Thu Apr 16, 2009 - 12:43:15 »
I don't hate SDA's.. I just think they are total crackpots... like Wacko, Heavens Gate.. etc.

They make me sad...

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #52 on: Thu Apr 16, 2009 - 12:49:06 »
I do not hate them either.  But like I said the denominations including the Catholics are man made.  The Church that GOD made is in our hearts not a building.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #53 on: Sat Apr 18, 2009 - 13:04:22 »
I do not hate them either.  But like I said the denominations including the Catholics are man made.  The Church that GOD made is in our hearts not a building.
You misunderstand what was said:
 SDA's are the only protestant body of Bible believers, that are currently protesting against the doctrines of the RCC.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #54 on: Sat Apr 18, 2009 - 14:30:26 »
I do not hate them either.  But like I said the denominations including the Catholics are man made.  The Church that GOD made is in our hearts not a building.
You misunderstand what was said:
 SDA's are the only protestant body of Bible believers, that are currently protesting against the doctrines of the RCC.

Again you are incorrect, The C.O.B.  is openly against the Catholic Church.  Esp. since they think we are a dangerous sect.  My Penticostal church also speaks openly against the Cathlic Church. 

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #55 on: Sat Apr 18, 2009 - 14:55:04 »
If any church follows any of the RCC's doctrines...what does that say about them ?

The RCC has established Sunday worship services:
DOCUMENTATION:

"Protestants accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship 'after' the Catholic Church made the change .....BUT the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that....in observing the Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope", ('Our Sunday Visitor', February 5, 1950).

  Romans 6:16   "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness ?"


"Sunday is a Catholic insitution,and its claims to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles....From the beginning of scripture to the end (Genesis-Revelation) there is not one single passage that warrants the transfer of public worship from the 7th day of the week, to the 1st day of the week", ('Catholic Press', Sydney, Autralia, August, 1900).


"IF Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a Law of the Catholic Church" (Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920).

"The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, unfallable authority given her by her founder, Jesus Christ.
The Protestant claiming the Bible to be their only guide to faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.
In this matter, the Seventh-Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant", ("The Catholic Universe Bulletin', August 14, 1942).


"It was the Catholic church which by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to Sunday....Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protesant is in homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the Catholic Church", (Monsignor
Louis Segur, 'Plain Talk about the Protestant of Today', Page 213).

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #56 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 02:04:45 »
If you worship on Saterday then you worship on the sabbith which is wrong.  But honestly, I worship Sunday through Saterday.  At 3 different churches, Why?  Because I believe GOD needs to be worshiped more than 1 day a week.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #57 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 08:31:43 »
If you worship on Saterday then you worship on the sabbith which is wrong.  But honestly, I worship Sunday through Saterday.  At 3 different churches, Why?  Because I believe GOD needs to be worshiped more than 1 day a week.
Jesus Christ is the pattern for every Christian to follow.

He set the example: 1 Peter  2:21   For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 

  2:22   Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 

so then, what day of the week, did Jesus attend religious services ?

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #58 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 08:35:26 »
If you worship on Saterday then you worship on the sabbith which is wrong.  But honestly, I worship Sunday through Saterday.  At 3 different churches, Why?  Because I believe GOD needs to be worshiped more than 1 day a week.
Jesus Christ is the pattern for every Christian to follow.

He set the example: 1 Peter  2:21   For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 

  2:22   Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 

so then, what day of the week, did Jesus attend religious services ?

whatever day the currupt jewish clergy determined that they wanted the sabbath.  so christ followed the tradition of the culture of the time..

You SDA's are such nut jobs... can't see the forest for the trees.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #59 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 10:19:16 »

whatever day the currupt jewish clergy determined that they wanted the sabbath.  so christ followed the tradition of the culture of the time..
You just prove you know nothing about Jesus Christ, with that statement, as Jesus did not go along with the religious leaders.


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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #60 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 10:23:12 »

whatever day the currupt jewish clergy determined that they wanted the sabbath.  so christ followed the tradition of the culture of the time..
You just prove you know nothing about Jesus Christ, with that statement, as Jesus did not go along with the religious leaders.



Theologically you are correct... but he was a good Jew according to the customs set down by God and interpreted by the religious leaders of his day.

Regardless of what you think, Jesus only came for one purpose only.. to live a sinless life and die on the cross for our sins.  While he was alive he abided by his own word and showed the religious leaders of his day that it wasn't adherence to the law that saved them.. it was faith in the coming price the messiah would pay for their sins.

SDA's are falling into the same pit as the religious leaders of Jesus day and have not learned a single thing from Jesus ministry... adherence to the law saves no one.


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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #61 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 10:30:52 »
Regardless of what you think, Jesus only came for one purpose only.. to live a sinless life and die on the cross for our sins. 

He also did this:  42:21   The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make [it] honourable. 

Which HE did with the Sermon on the Mount (Chapter 5 of Matthew)

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #62 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 10:37:43 »
Regardless of what you think, Jesus only came for one purpose only.. to live a sinless life and die on the cross for our sins. 

He also did this:  42:21   The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make [it] honourable. 

Which HE did with the Sermon on the Mount (Chapter 5 of Matthew)

Of course.. he was speaking before he died and paid for our sins.. during his ministry all the Old Law still applied.. 

You need to remember that Jesus ministry.. every thing he said.. was to Jews of the Old Covenant.. trying to prepare them for the New Covenant... the problem is that early christians tried to combine old and new covenant practices.. and it is common for some people who call themselves christians to promulgate the same errors today.

it no longer exists.. unless you are trying to be a Judiazer.

Most christians are so chronologically challenged.  The promise to Abraham was made 1000+ before Israel came out of Egypt and God instituted the his Law for them.

When the new testament talks about the in grafting of Christians to the promise made to Abraham it is doing just that.. in grafting Christians into a covenant that existed prior to the giving of the law... so the law given to Israel does not apply to us.
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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #63 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 10:48:10 »
Regardless of what you think, Jesus only came for one purpose only.. to live a sinless life and die on the cross for our sins. 

He also did this:  42:21   The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make [it] honourable. 

Which HE did with the Sermon on the Mount (Chapter 5 of Matthew)


He FULFILLED the law.  Those that are in Christ, are no longer under The LAW, but GRACE. 

A note to those folks such as yourself trying to be justified by keeping the Law.

Galatians 5:4

4You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

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« Reply #64 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 10:51:42 »
Regardless of what you think, Jesus only came for one purpose only.. to live a sinless life and die on the cross for our sins. 

He also did this:  42:21   The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make [it] honourable. 

Which HE did with the Sermon on the Mount (Chapter 5 of Matthew)


He FULFILLED the law.  Those that are in Christ, are no longer under The LAW, but GRACE. 

A note to those folks such as yourself trying to be justified by keeping the Law.

Galatians 5:4

4You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.


Amen

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #65 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 11:00:39 »
He FULFILLED the law. 
And HE told Christ's do do the same.

 John  15:10   If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 

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Those that are in Christ, are no longer under The LAW, but GRACE. 
What many people don't understand is that when a person is 'under the Law', it means they are disobeying it (breaking the Law) Romans 3:19.

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A note to those folks such as yourself trying to be justified by keeping the Law.

Galatians 5:4

4You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

OK...do we then throw out what God said ?

Romans   3:31   Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. 
QUESTION: Who are the 'we' ?

Also should we throw out Romans 2: 13 as well ?
 2:13   (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #66 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 11:02:25 »
Keep hanging onto your tenuous argument... it amuses me.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #67 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 11:06:04 »
Keep hanging onto your tenuous argument... it amuses me.

Will amuse you come God's Judgment Day.....and God asks you why you disobey His Will ?

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« Reply #68 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 11:08:09 »
Keep hanging onto your tenuous argument... it amuses me.

Will amuse you come God's Judgment Day.....and God asks you why you disobey His Will ?

His will is the Holy Spirit living in me.

And there will be no 'judgment day'..

You guys misinterpret the bible so badly you cannot see the forest for the trees.

God's Judgment day happened in AD 70 with the destruction of the temple...

It really is amusing how people let themselves be manipulated into believing such bizarre misinterpretations of the bible that don't even pass the most basic sanity test.

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Re: An important message to Protestants
« Reply #69 on: Sun Apr 19, 2009 - 11:17:35 »
His will is the Holy Spirit living in me.
Eccl.  12:13   Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man. 

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And there will be no 'judgment day'..
1 Peter  4:17   For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God ?