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Is there a set rule as to how often one partakes of communion biblically  ( New Testament)

The only rule I know if is this:  "As often as you eat this bread and drink this cup ..."  Derek Prince made the comment that it was NOT "As SELDOM as you eat this bread ..."

The Passover Seder (which the last supper was) is done once a year. By the 2nd century church history shows communion was done every week.

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Is there a set rule as to how often one partakes of communion biblically  ( New Testament)

The only rule I know if is this:  "As often as you eat this bread and drink this cup ..."  Derek Prince made the comment that it was NOT "As SELDOM as you eat this bread ..."

The Passover Seder (which the last supper was) is done once a year. By the 2nd century church history shows communion was done every week.

the area seems a little grey. The New Testament does not give time frames and there is no record of the apostles having set specific days or weeks. This would give us the idea that parting of His supper should be done but no law of salvation is upon it. 

You said 2nd century church fathers did it by the week. I believe there was some controversy about certain groups or people who did not do the Eucharist.  I will do a google to refresh my memory

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I have just re-viewed some letter of Ignatius. This point came to mind. All the while the apostles lived there were no controversy about certain practice. They put no specific rules times standards, or specific ritual. I believe there is a reason for this. After the apostles bishops took their place, but hey began to put rules and standards of belief. This is not always bad but what happens is we build the law around them.

I believe the apostles understood about law and grace. The law about that is you cannot mix law with grace. If we are saved by grace then every aspect of salvation must also be grace.

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the area seems a little grey.

Yes.  And that is fine.

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The New Testament does not give time frames and there is no record of the apostles having set specific days or weeks.


All true.


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This would give us the idea that parting of His supper should be done but no law of salvation is upon it. 

Do you mean partaking?

If so I agree.  I see nothing in the NT text that directly says it has any salvic value.
The passage in Jn 6 may or may not be talking about communion.  I take it as metaphoric.

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You said 2nd century church fathers did it by the week. I believe there was some controversy about certain groups or people who did not do the Eucharist.  I will do a google to refresh my memory

There was controversy about anyone who did not walk in lock-step with the gentile church leaders who were trying to distance themselves as much as possible from Judaism. While communion was not an issue with Judaism per se, it still was someone bucking their self-asserted authority.

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the area seems a little grey.

Yes.  And that is fine.

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The New Testament does not give time frames and there is no record of the apostles having set specific days or weeks.


All true.


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This would give us the idea that parting of His supper should be done but no law of salvation is upon it. 

Do you mean partaking?

If so I agree.  I see nothing in the NT text that directly says it has any salvic value.
The passage in Jn 6 may or may not be talking about communion.  I take it as metaphoric.

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You said 2nd century church fathers did it by the week. I believe there was some controversy about certain groups or people who did not do the Eucharist.  I will do a google to refresh my memory

There was controversy about anyone who did not walk in lock-step with the gentile church leaders who were trying to distance themselves as much as possible from Judaism. While communion was not an issue with Judaism per se, it still was someone bucking their self-asserted authority.

Yes Dave I did mean partaking, Sorry. We are also on the same page about John 6 being metaphoric.


I also see the bishops concerns about maintaining true doctrine and that the church should be centered around the bishops authority. How ever I believe this led to abuse in later times

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Of course. We take umbrage at touching children.

We take umbrage at burning opponents at the stake.

We take umbrage in stealing children from nurseries like in Catholic hospitals in Franco's Spain.

There is a lot of extreme evil that is tolerated in Catholicism, and I do protest.

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The OP is ignorant.

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As long as we don't protest the protestants lol, the Catholics are cooler in that sense, they expect protest so are often more forgiving of it but protestants are often more quick to hate.

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....and it doesn't hurt to remember that it was the Papal folks who came up with the "definition."......

 ::smile::

Actually, the Protestant Movement did start as a break away from the Catholic Church for SOME Protestant Churches...........but in my opinion............our church was not so much a "breakaway," but, rather a RETURN to the Original Church as found in Jerusalem, and spoken of in the Book of Acts.

The Catholic Church was not the Original Church in my opinion, and that is not meant as a "slight," rather as a statement of opinion.

I don't referr to my church as Protestant, even though in the overall definition of Protestant we are.  I simply consider us a member of the One Church.

.....my thoughts, so............



Exactly p.r .A return to the beginning of the truth of what was taught.
 I can never understand this protestant/Catholic talk. I dont consider myself to be anything but a born again Christian. ::shrug:: I go to where the Bible is taught and not added to or taken away from.
 

So then, why is the main point of your worship service listening to some pastor standing up and giving a sermon rather than the re-enacting the Last Supper as Christ commanded us to do and as the early Christians did?

You folks have strayed so far since the supposed "reformation" it isn't funny. Nothing was reformed, things were destroyed, the Scriptures were torn apart.
Main points? Worship God, encourage each other, edify, teach, and remember together. Do Catholics not have homilies? Scripture readings, prayer? Of course they do. Should we assume therefore that if you got rid of those distractions, you could more fully focus on the Eucharist? Should we argue that you should do away with those others?

Of course we should not get rid of those things, yes they are all part of worship. My point was that in the many non-Catholic traditions, the Eucharistic celebration is relegated to a minor role, done sparingly and looked at as a mere symbol.

How many times do you believe the apostles celebrated the Eucharist. Every day, every week, every month? Is there any law in our New Testament concerning this calibration as how many times it is to be done? does salvation hinge on it.   No disrespect intended concerning communion. Just asking you.   

The best way to honor and worship Christ to remember Him is giving your very life for Him don't you think? Do you think the apostles or any true believe who loves Christ has trouble remembering who His savior and Lords is?
 
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Even if the root of Protestant were one who protests, let the church say amen.

Those called of God heard his voice and left the command of the papist authority so as to follow Christ alone.