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The Church of God, Anderson, In.
« on: February 13, 2011, 07:24:30 PM »
This will not all fit in one OP, so I will have to do several over time, but I hope you can enjoy learning of who we are and why we believe what we believe.

Notes, comments are credited to Oral and Laura Withrow of The Church of God, Anderson, In.

"We have good reason to use the name Church of God.  It is a biblical name.  What better source is there from which to get a name for a group who worships God!  The name Church of God is used to describe the body of Christ in 1st Corinthians 1:2; 10:32; 11:22; 15:9 2nd Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:13; and 1st Timothy 3:5.

The Church of God with general offices in Anderson, Indiana makes no claim to the exclusive use of the biblical name and is concious that such use brings with it the responsibility, even the obligation, to worship, fellowship, and serve in ways that honor God and his church.

We do not consider ourselves to be another denomination, with a prescribed creed and an unbending organizational structure.  Neither are we a sect with legalistic statements on, and enforcedment of, life-styles.  We do not have any captivating commitment to a human personality.

The name Church of God is used in a universal sense to refer to all persons who believe on Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord and are thereby in the Church by God's action as indicated in Acts 2:47.  The Church of God is not a particular set of believers so much as it is all believers, whatever other associations to which they may give themselves in the name of Christ.  The universal nature of the Church is marvelously communicated by Paul to the Ephesian Christians (Ephesians 2:1-22).  His summary is descriptive and explanatory:

    <You are...fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.  In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.  And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
Ephesians 2:19-22>

The name Church of God is used to identify a "reformation movement" within Christianity.  When the name is used to designate the movement, it is written thus:  Church of God (Anderson, Indiana).  Since the time of its earliest spokesman, Daniel S. Warner, in the 1880's, the preachers, teachers, poets, and other writers have given emphasis to the message of unity and holiness."

Ok, this is Part 1.

I will continue on in due time...........

God bless..........  ::tippinghat::


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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 07:41:59 PM »
Thanks for the info p.

It sounds similar to the Restoration Movement.  Is it?

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 08:03:13 PM »
Thanks for the info p.

It sounds similar to the Restoration Movement.  Is it?


No.  I am really just getting started here.  Sigh, with my A.D.D and O.T.D., I can only type so much, then need a break.
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Re: The Church of God, Anderson, In.
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 07:48:41 AM »
Hey I'm from Indiana too.lol  ::tippinghat::

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 01:52:20 PM »
After reading what you say about your church group, Rehbein, I consulted the Handbook Of Denominations by F. S. Mead.  It shows pretty much what you have stated, which is fairly close to the Bible.  I see there are five or six different kind of so-called "churches of God" listed, and your group began in 1880.  I am glad you appreciate what Scripture shows as to form for the church.

The fellowship I am with began in 1827 as a return to church truth from the ecclesiastical sects and organizations which descended from the RC religion.  We hold also fully to the form given in the Word of God.  There were, of course, those who wanted their own versions and innovations, so some went out from this revival and started some variations (which denies the truth of "one body").  God was surely working in circa 1800 to recover His testimony after the tyranny and bondage of the Middle (dark) Ages

The problem for both you and I is how to get all of such believers in Christ to not only conform completely to God's Word, but to get on the ground of expressing the unity of "one body in Christ" in the world.  If we take a name (which we don't) and hold any practices not true to Scripture, that will divide the saints in the world.   Mergers and amalgamations is not "unity of the faith", and not God's way, so we need to look at unity honestly.

As I say, I am glad for saints like you that value the form of gathering, but church truth is more than FORM, right?  Perhaps you might like to see a line of ministry on this at biblecounsel. homestead. com which sets forth what I believe is that which God intended for His saints here 'til the Lord comes for His bride --the church.  You can find sound ministry for the church at Bible Truth Publishers in Addison, IL if you would be interested in further inquiry.  Look up always!

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 02:28:12 PM »
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The problem for both you and I is how to get all of such believers in Christ to not only conform completely to God's Word, but to get on the ground of expressing the unity of "one body in Christ" in the world.  If we take a name (which we don't) and hold any practices not true to Scripture, that will divide the saints in the world.   Mergers and amalgamations is not "unity of the faith", and not God's way, so we need to look at unity honestly.

serious,

The differences between churches has been present from the beginning. The NT shows some of that.

Yet Jesus asked us to be unified. How is that done?  I say through the sacrament of the Lords Supper. Communion is the expression of acceptance of others and so each of all the churches should hold open communion inviting all christians to participate who want to be at the Lords Table. It does not matter which church rolls we are on. But it does matter if we can go to the Lords Table with each other and express our acceptance. Peace. John

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 10:21:32 AM »
thanks to you both for your comments.  It's been awhile since  this was posted, suprised youall found it............

For me, the critical thing the Church (speaking not of earthly churches) must do is preach/teach/live the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  This is what He directed us to do.  If we the Church were to obey Him in this duty, I believe that many if not all of the issues that separate so many of us would disapear............now, that's just my opinion.  Any earthly church/denomination/whatever that isn't preaching/teaching/living the Gospel of Jesus Christ, is not acting in obedience to Him.  Again, that's just my opinion.

God bless you both......

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 12:31:50 PM »
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The message of unity is that all God's people are one (John 17) and are called to recognize that unity, to relate to each other as brothers and sisters in Christ, and to coordinate their efforts in mission to the world. 

p.rehbein,

You will find a partner in unity in the Methodist Church. We accept all christians as our brothers and sisters and offer unity through communion to all who desire communion with us. We do not consider ourselves better than any other denomination but instead consider all other christians as equal in Christ.

You are welcome to this forum and also welcome to any Methodist church as equals and partners. Peace. John

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 05:10:55 PM »
Hello highrigger,
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Sorry but I'm not really buying what you are saying here:

We accept all christians as our brothers and sisters and offer unity through communion to all who desire communion with us.

Sorry, I think this is too simple.  Mormons and JWs consider themselves Christians too.  Cults do too.  Do we accept them as
Christians and desire fellowship with them?   A more accurate statement would be to say that we accept you if you accept us.
This is better, but it makes your definition of acceptable faith not based in theology but on what the other guy says about you.

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We do not consider ourselves better than any other denomination



Sorry, but some Methodist (Wesley?) must be spinning in their grave.  It's a humble thing to say, but it presents some big problems.

If my church is no better than your church, why doesn't your church just join mine?  Really, if we believe in Christian unity (John 17),
why would we perpetuate a division that has no purpose?  If this is true, then you should at least in talks with other denominations about
forming a coalition.  But, more likely, there is a difference in belief with your church and the others.  This is why you exist, and if this is true,
then your statement above is not true. 

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but instead consider all other christians as equal in Christ.


As I said above, this is too simple.  Fortunately, the historical church dealt with most every theological issue (of its time) and declare what
we must (and even not must) believe.  Yet Protestants can't seem to agree what is and is not important, and have no mechanism to do so.

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You are welcome to this forum and also welcome to any Methodist church as equals and partners. Peace. John

You are certainly welcome in my church as well, as we are both on a pathway of knowing God.  But, sorry, we have some theological differences
and your church is not the one that Jesus Christ declared he would protect (Matt 16:18).  I would be lying if I were to say your church is
an equal of mine.  Now, you may be better than I and may be closer to God.  That only God knows, but I'm not going say that the church (Orthodox)
declared by Jesus Christ is no better than your (or other) churches.  Otherwise, I would belong to one of those churches.

I have to say though, we have a lot of theological opinions in common, more than most Protestant denominations.

Blessings to you.

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 05:54:02 AM »
a couple of thoughts here, but not pretending to speak for highrigger, just me and my Church.

1)  accepting all christians to participate in service with us may be too simplistic, but that is what we do.  Regardless of what Mormans and others like the LDS say, they are not protestant churches except in the eyes of the RC's simply because they aren't RC.  We do not consider them to be protestant.  Still, should any person come into out church and profess Jesus to be the only begotton Son of God and their Lord and Saviour, we would take them at their word until their actions/words proved different.

2)  My church is non-denominational, and we do not consider ourselves to be any better or worse than any other christian church/group/denomination that preaches/teaches/lifes the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  As for people joining the same denomination/church/whatever, this is still folks who cannot see past the "carnal" christian and accept the Truth of the "spiritual" christian.  All who profess Jesus Christ to be their personal Lord and Saviour and strive to serve Him ARE ALREADY PART OF THE ONE TRUE CHURCH, that being His Church.

3)  Again we come back to the "historical church", which appears to be a nicer way of saying that the Catholic Church is the one true church and this is not biblically true whatsoever.  The 15th Chapter of Acts reveals to all what the "first Church, historical church" was and where it was, and it was not the Catholic Church.  Nor was it Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, CoC, or any other man established church/denomination.  Biblical truth will not be hidden no matter how hard some try to do so.

4)  All are welcome to join the church I have joined also!  They will find all the requirements for doing so laid out in a perfectly SIMPLY way in the Gospel of John, Chapter 3, vs. 16.  Come on and join us!

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotton Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life."

IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 01:51:40 PM »
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The name Church of God is used in a universal sense to refer to all persons who believe on Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord and are thereby in the Church by God's action as indicated in Acts 2:47.  The Church of God is not a particular set of believers so much as it is all believers, whatever other associations to which they may give themselves in the name of Christ.  The universal nature of the Church is marvelously communicated by Paul to the Ephesian Christians (Ephesians 2:1-22).  His summary is descriptive and explanatory:

p.reheim,

And many say that catholic had the same meaning  30 years later when it was frist utilized by Ignatius but some want to make it into an exclusive denomination that no one may shore in. We are all catholic.

Peace, JohnR


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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 02:47:57 PM »
Regarding the acceptance of faithful into the Church of God (Anderson Indiana)

It is unfortunate such division exists between those who seek salvation through Jesus Christ.  However, I have seen progress towards unity.

I was married in a Catholic Church 20 years ago, without ever being or becoming a Catholic.  My being a Christian was good enough, quite a remarkable change from years earlier.  My Italian wife was RC, and to be married anyplace other than a Catholic church would have been unthinkable to her family.  I thank God that the Catholic Church allowed for the union under their roof.

After our marriage, my wife went to my family's church, and she has been an active part of the congregation there since.  Myself it was not until a few years ago that I started to take Christianity seriously, and even then I had the occasional relapse, I am now on track, and have been so for some time.  I credit the Church of God for their grace, patience, and acceptance of my family and I.  I believe grace above all is one of the defining characteristics of Christianity.

This Saturday evening, we will be having services, usually reserved for Sunday morning?(foreshadowing)

About two years ago the Catholic Church next door had two new Priests come onto duty, our Pastor sent them a letter welcoming them, acknowledging their faith, and offering any assistance they might require. (more foreshadowing).

The Priests were surprised at the warm welcome they received from of all people a protestant minister.  They became good friends.  Recently, our Pastor celebrated his twentieth anniversary with the Church, one of the Priests from next door came to pay tribute.  He told of when he invited our Pastor to speak to his congregation, and a comment he received from one of the parishioners.

She was an older lady, and called him over with a stern look on her face, and asked him quite gruffly, "Who's idea was it to have that protestant minister speak in our Church?"  The Priest looked at her tentatively, expecting the worst.  Before he could answer, she said,  "Well whoever it was, he was a genius."

I find it disheartening some of the debate between RC's and Protestants, we are all children of God.  Our church is blessed in the relationship with our Catholic friends next door, I wish all could feel such fellowship.

This Sunday, I may still attend my Church, but my pastor will not be preaching, instead a CC screen will be setup in the sanctuary and foyer for our brothers next door.  They have an extremely important Archbishop visiting and they do not have the space to accommodate all who will wish to see him speak.

We have not decided if we will attend, as we would be occupying valuable space;  my wife would like to because of her Catholic roots, but that is not our only motivation, it would be a pleasure to serve these faithful people who we have invited into our church.

God bless, we are all God's children, united in Jesus Christ,
Carey.



 





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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 07:45:55 AM »
A very nice testimony Carey, and may God richly bless you and yours..........

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 10:02:24 PM »
Thank you p.

Peace and goodwill, ::smile::
Carey.

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2012, 07:42:14 AM »
Thank you p.

Peace and goodwill, ::smile::
Carey.



............. I am  ::prayinghard:: for you and yours...................

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