TCU designating gay dorm

[James.]

http://www.star-telegram.com/local/story/1302883.html


TCU will set aside some apartments for gays, lesbians
By GENE TRAINOR

FORT WORTH — Texas Christian University will designate some on-campus apartments for gay students and their supporters, creating what may be the only such college housing in the region.

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Texas Christian University was established as a Restoration Movement college before the Disciples/CofC split, just after the Civil War.  Like many such institutions Texas, when the split did occur, the TCU was aligned with the DoC.

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Well, they've apparently recanted.  Probably calls from donors/alumni got 'em to rethink.
http://www.newsevents.tcu.edu/1551.asp

[mandalee65]

 

[blituri]

Don't forget that the media has trouble with facts!  Nextly, the Church of Christ had only Campbell as a preacher in common and nothing else and were never "united" with the Disciples of Christ. The Christian church organized as the NACC did not sect out of the Disciples until beginning in 1927 and finalized in 1971.

Here is some history of what was always called The Church of Christ in that part of Texas:

"The story of the D’Spain connection with Hood County is even closer.  Lynn D’Spain had a sister named Hetty.  Hetty was to meet a young man, Joseph Addison Clark, who came to their community.  Clark, at that time irreligious – somewhat skeptical about religion, was in the Nacagdoches area.  Trapped by high water, he attended a singing class which the church was conducting.  He became interested in the singing.  In time, he fell in love with Hetty and they married.  He became a Christian, and a fervent one.  Ultimately, he, along with his sons, Addison and Randolph, were to found Add-Ran University at Thorp Spring, just three miles north of Granbury.  This school is the lineal ancestor of present-day Texas Christian University, at Fort Worth. 

This was founded by individuals who happened to be members of the Church of Christ: the church had and has no connection with it.

Clark’s two sons preached in Granbury in early days.  His sons later introduced an organ into worship at Thorp Spring, which caused a major split in that community and ultimately was the cause of the University relocating.  More will be said later about the Clark family.

The other early congregation referred to, is the one at Old Liberty, near McKinney, Texas.  Descendents of Collin McKinney were leaders in this church along with the Wilmeths.  Collin’s son, William C. McKinney, was one of the preachers for the Old Liberty church.  The other was Joseph Brice Wilmeth, who only arrived there the year the church of was organized.  Wilmeth, as was not uncommon among men of the frontier, had moved already from his native state of North Carolina, to Tennessee, then to Arkansas and finally into Texas.  They first moved to a farm near present-day Grand Prairie, but the Indians made this location unsafe, (1846 antedates by two years the establishment of Fort Worth), so they moved to Collin County, where J.B. Wilmeth farmed and shared preaching responsibilities.  Two of J.B. Wilmeth’s sons, James Ransom and C.M. (Mack) Wilmeth were later to teach at Add-Ran University at Thorp Spring.  (Of special interest to this writer is that his wife, Carol, is the great-great granddaughter of J.B. Wilmeth.  Some family papers have been useful at this point.)

The work of the Church of Christ in Hood County, then, is entwined with some of the earliest work done in Texas by pioneers of the Restoration Movement.  As has already been mentioned, later on in this story, a division occurred over instrumental music.  Another issue was over the organization of a missionary society. 

Those congregations holding to the conservative position of a cappela music in worship and not supra-congregational organization became known as Church of Christ. 

Those holding to a liberal approach which permitted these innovations became known as Christian Churches or Disciples of Christ.  Thus, in Granbury, there came to be two separate churches – the Church of Christ and the First Christian Church – who look to the same pioneer preachers and workers as their spiritual ancestors.  The time-frame in which this division occurred in Hood County was from about 1893-1910.  The federal census of 1906 distinguished the religious preferences of those who had formerly been united as Church of Christ and, separately, Christian Churches.

Restoration historians and discorders also have the media problem.

The Campbells and others used The Church of Christ early on and those continued and DID NOT add the ORGAN or ORGANIZATION and continued to be the Church of Christ.

Those converted by the "singing" introduced the organ and society.  THEY took the name Disciples of Christ or Christian Church.  The Church of Christ never moved an INCH but hate mongers love to call them SECTARIANS.  It was the singing and clapping and dancing at Cane Ridge, KY, which was borrowed from the black areas which fueled the Stoneites along with adding the practices of the Shouting Methodists as an added ACT of worship

Notice again,

The federal census of 1906 distinguished the religious preferences of those who had formerly been united as Church of Christ and, separately, Christian Churches.

At least in Texas it was the LIBERALS who had to relocate the college and adopted a NEW NAME.  They then "joined" the historic Disciples of Christ which had methodist-Anglican-Catholic roots which gave THEM authority to add DOGMA where DOCTRINE they thought was silent.

The common ROOTS were cut off by those Churches of Christ who had liberal roots. Most discord did and does originate from the youngers ruling over Colleges:

Therefore, the history of those congregations now denominated as "Christian Church" and those wearing the name "Church of Christ" was the same.

Some throughout this brotherhood, however, were now advocating the use of the organ in worship as an aid to better singing.

    Some of the students at Add-Ran wanted to use an organ in the worship at a service on February 20, 1894. At that service, the father of the Clark brothers, J.A. Clark, presented his son, Addison, with a petition signed by J.A. Clark and more than a hundred others, asking that the organ not be used.

    Addison read the petition, conferred with his brother, Randolph, then, announced that he had promised the students that the organ could be used and that he could not go back on his word. He turned to the organist and said, "Play, on Miss Bertha."

    J.A. Clark, then 78 years old, arose with his wife and walked out of the building. About 140 followed him out. Joseph Lynn Clark, J.A.'s grandson, authored the book, Thank God We Made It!, in which he correctly observes,

. . . the organ episode . . . at Thorp Spring had far-reaching effects . . . the reverberations of the conflict were felt throughout the state and beyond its borders. Involving, as it did, the Brotherhood's school, whose patrons were scattered throughout the region, news of the affair spread rapidly to the churches, raising local tensions, crystalizing personal opinions and splitting congregations.

Those who IMPOSE are the only ones defined as SECTARIANS.

[DCR]

Nextly, the Church of Christ had only Campbell as a preacher in common and nothing else and were never "united" with the Disciples of Christ.

I don't know of anyone who says that the "Churches of Christ" were ever united with the "Disciples of Christ" as such.

The notion is anachronistic.

And, that's because the denomination known as the "Disciples of Christ" did not exist back in the 1800s when the predecessor churches of both groups still recognized each other as being within the same movement.  The organizational structure of the Disciples didn't really come about until the 20th Century after the earlier churches had already gone their separate ways over the "issues."

[blituri]

I don't know of any of the changelings who have sought UNITY as a ploy to let the instrumentalists teach all of their false defense for instruments who DOES NOT say that the Church of Christ SECTED OUT of the Christian Church which was part of the Disciples in 1906: they would not even exist for another decade and not fully sected out of the Disciples until 1971 when the "unity" movements picked up steam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciples_of_Christ

During the first hundred years of the Restoration Movement, "Disciples of Christ," "Christian Church," and "Church of Christ" were all commonly used titles for congregations associated with the Campbell-Stone Movement.

In fact, it was Alexander Campbell who insisted on the name DISCIPLES OF CHRIST after what he denied was a unity movement. What later called itself the Disciples of Christ used the term "Christians." They used Alexander almost on his death bed to defend a missionary society as a DENOMINATION when he only wanted to work together on missions: there is a difference in sending out joint MISSIONARIES and a MISSIONARY SOCIETY. What became the Disciples really SECTED OUT of the mainline when they fell for the Millerite (SDA) prophecy of Jesus' return in 1843: they became upset and decided that they had to SAVE THE JEWS or it would not be possible for Jesus to return in 1843.  The Millenniel Harbinger was named to REFUTE the near return of Christ. The Disciples confess that it was the millenial bug which made any cooperation impossible: I have posted their views somewhere on the forum.

With the introduction of instruments split churches,  the society resulted in those groups with the Christian Church secting out.  While the identifier "Churches of Christ" was well understood, the NACC adopted the name Christian Church/Churches of Christ which intentionally or otherwise caused great confusion. Many of those when instruments were imposed already called themselves the Church of Christ.

It is a fact though that the name Disciples of Christ swept up those wanting a missionary society just after they had agreed to the conditions of the "hand shake union" defined by John Smith.  They quickly abandoned the "contract" and then added instruments. That group continued under various names for many years.  Many groups with the name Christian Church are Disciples are not independent Christian Churches.  The independants continued the same basic teacings but under a looser organization called the NACC which has a name, address, telephone number, a tax number, and who plans the yearly meetings and therefore dispenses the approved teachings and teachers.

From what I posted it is clear that they cannot blame 1906 and David Lipscomb for SPLITTING the church. Yet, they think that it works as a GUILT CLAUSE and I assure you that it does for many.

With the first Organ introduced by a liberal (later repudiated) over the objections of the elders, I don't think that you can say that there was any UNION between the society/instrument party and what was or became the Church of Christ.  I heard the story of how the name Christian Church was taken off the signs in middle Tennessee.

[blituri]

Another hate crime is based on the concept of "open membership." They deliberately twist the writings of Campbell about christians among the sects: he thought of a christian as one who lived according to christian principles.  However, he said that a Christian had to have been baptized and if they were among the sects they should "come out of Babylon."  In the article on the Christian Church, you will note that they split from the Disciples over open membership.  I think that most would not accept you as saved without baptism except "among the scholars."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Christian_Churches/Churches_of_Christ

The official separation between the independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ and the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) is difficult to date.[3]:407 Suggestions range from 1926 to 1971 based on the events outlined below:

    * 1926: The first North American Christian Convention (NACC) in 1927[3]:407 was the result of disillusionment at the DoC Memphis Convention.
    * 1930s - 1940s: Symbolic differences and disagreements flourished.
    * 1944: International Convention of Disciples elects as president a proponent of open membership[3]:408
    * 1948: The Commission on Restudy, appointed to help avoid a split, disbands[3]:409
    * 1955: The Directory of the Ministry was first published listing only the "Independents" on a voluntary basis.[3]:408
    * 1968: Final redaction of the Disciples Year Book removing Independent churches[3]:408
    * 1971: Independent churches listed separately in the Yearbook of American Churches.[3]:408

Because of this separation, many independent Christian Churches/churches of Christ are not only non-denominational, they can be anti-denominational, avoiding even the appearance or language associated with denominationalism holding true to their Restoration roots.

The facts never stand in the way of false teachers twisting all of the Bible and known history to FORCE instruments. The claim "open membership" but you will NOT participate in their liberated institutes unless you aree with them including an indoctrination and signing of covenants.

Trust me: never trust a scholar :-)

[zoonance]

Cambell advocated gay dorms?

[James.]

He advocated singing and fellowshiped instrumentalists, and when you do that, all roads lead to the Isle of Lesbos, so you do the math, Zoonance.

[david johnson]

segregation is acceptable/legal if it's for homosexuals?  baloney.

dj

[Johnb]

TCU is not governed by the DOC.   nAlthough the liberal leadership of the DOC would not object.

[lancelot]

http://www.star-telegram.com/local/story/1302883.html


TCU will set aside some apartments for gays, lesbians
By GENE TRAINOR

FORT WORTH — Texas Christian University will designate some on-campus apartments for gay students and their supporters, creating what may be the only such college housing in the region.

----------------

Texas Christian University was established as a Restoration Movement college before the Disciples/CofC split, just after the Civil War.  Like many such institutions Texas, when the split did occur, the TCU was aligned with the DoC.

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Well, they've apparently recanted.  Probably calls from donors/alumni got 'em to rethink.
http://www.newsevents.tcu.edu/1551.asp

Recanting isn't enough.  People who would even think like that should be fired.

Lancelot