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The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
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The October 2008 issue of The Spiritual Sword has arrived, and as usual, it is outstanding. 

The theme of this issue is, Crisis In The Pulpit.

Featured articles and writers include...


EDITORIAL  -  Practice What You Preach..............................Alan E. Highers

The Purpose of Preaching................................... ...............Hugh Fulford

As Goes the Pulpit, So Goes the Church..............................David R. Pharr

What the Pioneers Preached.................................... ..........Ancil Jenkins

Crisis in the Pulpit...................................... ......................Phil Sanders

Balance in the Pulpit...................................... ...................Jay Lockhart

Dare To be Distinctive................................. ......................Gary McDade

Preach the Word........................................ .......................E. Claude Gardner

Give Heed to Doctrine.................................... ...................William Woodson

We Persuade Men......................................... ....................David Powell

Contending for the Faith....................................... .............Gary Colley

From the Woodland.................................... ......................Alan E. Highers


I encourage Christians everywhere to subscribe to this wonderful publication.


The Spiritual Sword
c/o getwell church of Christ
1511 Getwell Road
Memphis, TN  38111
$8.00/year


Robert G
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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #1 on: Tue Sep 30, 2008 - 21:26:07 »
Thanks Robert.

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« Reply #2 on: Tue Sep 30, 2008 - 22:51:03 »
Although I don't subscribe to the SS anymore I would like to read the article by Ancil Jenkins, "What the Pioneers Preached." I might actually try to order this copy and read about the topic of preaching. Sounds like it would be informative.

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« Reply #3 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 12:27:02 »
Although I don't subscribe to the SS anymore I would like to read the article by Ancil Jenkins, "What the Pioneers Preached." I might actually try to order this copy and read about the topic of preaching. Sounds like it would be informative.

I'd like to read this one, too. I wish Robert would/could post it here.

Pax.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #4 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 17:20:18 »
I would like to know why this thread was moved here from the theology forum.  I posted it on there because there is more activity on that forum, but also because I consider that forum more appropriate.

I would appreciate one of the moderators moving it back.

Thank you.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #5 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 17:26:38 »
I can't speak for the moderators, but there is no theology being discussed here.  Just a table of contents.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #6 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 18:34:30 »
Moderators may move threads to specific forums such as this whenever those threads are deemed more relevant to those specific forums.  Where the RM forum is concerned, this would hold true for threads on publications, such as this, when they are produced by Restoration Movement churches, where the focus is on RM/CofC-specific issues.

The Theology forum will now be more for general discussion on doctrinal issues, when those issues are not categorizable under other forums.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #7 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 22:01:16 »
Moderators may move threads to specific forums such as this whenever those threads are deemed more relevant to those specific forums.  Where the RM forum is concerned, this would hold true for threads on publications, such as this, when they are produced by Restoration Movement churches, where the focus is on RM/CofC-specific issues.

The Theology forum will now be more for general discussion on doctrinal issues, when those issues are not categorizable under other forums.

This is my thread.

I placed it in the theology forum.

Put it back, and leave it there.

Robert G 

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #8 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 22:16:15 »
Take it up with admin.

The thread is RM specific - in fact it is even more narrow than that. 

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #9 on: Wed Oct 01, 2008 - 22:29:25 »
Moderators tend to be modulators -- moving sometimes is hiding?

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #10 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 05:11:59 »
Moderators tend to be modulators -- moving sometimes is hiding?

Sometimes.

Moving this thread to a less visible, less active area certainly doesn't look good.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #11 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 05:14:59 »
Take it up with admin.

The thread is RM specific - in fact it is even more narrow than that.

I disagree.  It is Christianity specific.

Have you actually read this of which you so confidently speak?

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #12 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 08:03:51 »
Take it up with admin.

The thread is RM specific - in fact it is even more narrow than that.

I disagree.  It is Christianity specific.

Have you actually read this of which you so confidently speak?

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If your mag had the guts to publish its articles on the web we might have something to talk about.  Until then your monthly postings deserve to be in the backwater.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #13 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 08:06:10 »
Moderators may move threads to specific forums such as this whenever those threads are deemed more relevant to those specific forums.  Where the RM forum is concerned, this would hold true for threads on publications, such as this, when they are produced by Restoration Movement churches, where the focus is on RM/CofC-specific issues.

The Theology forum will now be more for general discussion on doctrinal issues, when those issues are not categorizable under other forums.

This is my thread.

I placed it in the theology forum.

Put it back, and leave it there.

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Robert, give us some theology to discuss, not a table of contents to brag about.   This is pitiful behavior.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 09:30:53 »
Moderators may move threads to specific forums such as this whenever those threads are deemed more relevant to those specific forums.  Where the RM forum is concerned, this would hold true for threads on publications, such as this, when they are produced by Restoration Movement churches, where the focus is on RM/CofC-specific issues.

The Theology forum will now be more for general discussion on doctrinal issues, when those issues are not categorizable under other forums.

This is my thread.

I placed it in the theology forum.

Put it back, and leave it there.

Robert G 

Robert, give us some theology to discuss, not a table of contents to brag about.   This is pitiful behavior.




What is so pitiful or wrong about listing the table of contents of a magazine? It's the piling on by all of the "anti-Spiritual Sword" people that is pitiful. I used to read the SS, subscribed to it for years, I even know some of its authors, but I found the magazine to be a bit too "legalistic" than I cared for, however that is not always the case.....some issues are quite good. From the looks of the table of contents on this particular issue I would say that it is probably going to be more of interest to me, so I ordered it yesterday. And I thank Robert G for posting it, otherwise I would not have known about it.

I just don't see why this has to become such an issue every time Robert G places the TOC on the fourm..... ::pondering::



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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #15 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 10:39:40 »
Moderators may move threads to specific forums such as this whenever those threads are deemed more relevant to those specific forums.  Where the RM forum is concerned, this would hold true for threads on publications, such as this, when they are produced by Restoration Movement churches, where the focus is on RM/CofC-specific issues.

The Theology forum will now be more for general discussion on doctrinal issues, when those issues are not categorizable under other forums.

This is my thread.

I placed it in the theology forum.

Put it back, and leave it there.

Robert G 

Robert, give us some theology to discuss, not a table of contents to brag about.   This is pitiful behavior.




What is so pitiful or wrong about listing the table of contents of a magazine? It's the piling on by all of the "anti-Spiritual Sword" people that is pitiful. I used to read the SS, subscribed to it for years, I even know some of its authors, but I found the magazine to be a bit too "legalistic" than I cared for, however that is not always the case.....some issues are quite good. From the looks of the table of contents on this particular issue I would say that it is probably going to be more of interest to me, so I ordered it yesterday. And I thank Robert G for posting it, otherwise I would not have known about it.

I just don't see why this has to become such an issue every time Robert G places the TOC on the fourm..... ::pondering::







Posting the table of contents isn't a behavior, that is an action.  The pitiful behavior is his demanding (a pitiful behavior) it be placed on the theology section with absolutely no theology being presented to discuss, only a table of contents with no content.  No one is suggesting that posting a source of information is uncalled for.  But demanding the Moderators to obey his request solely based on personal desire with no community meat isn't fruitful.   Post the article, ask for opinions and comments - and then we have a theological thread.

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« Reply #16 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 10:57:41 »
While I'm not the person who moved this, I fail to see the action as an insult.  I recently moved a couple of threads out of the RM thread into theology because they didn't contain RM-specific material, and the author unleashed a series of invectives against me.  To me moving this post thread about an RM magazine to the RM board makes a lot of sense.  It would make sense if it were Wineskins of The Christian Chronicle as well.

As a matter of fact, there is a recent thread about the new issue of CC on the RM board. 

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #17 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 12:17:22 »
If your mag had the guts to publish its articles on the web we might have something to talk about.  Until then your monthly postings deserve to be in the backwater.

So you feel simply posting the table of contents doesn't give us "something to talk about"?

But yet you support moving this thread to the "Restoration Forum" based on the table of contents?  On what basis can you decide one way and not the other?

Hmmm...

Here's a news flash for you:  The Spiritual Sword has no fellowship with the "Restoration movement" as defined by this board.  It supports no affinity or activity with The DoC's or the Christian Churches.

It teaches the Bible and exposes error.  It is a doctrinal publication.  Its claim to the Restoration movement is limited to the CoC, and does not support what you and this board generally refer to as "the other two branches".

As such, this thread properly belongs in the theology forum.

And that's why I put it there.

Robert G
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« Reply #18 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 14:11:06 »
If your mag had the guts to publish its articles on the web we might have something to talk about.  Until then your monthly postings deserve to be in the backwater.

So you feel simply posting the table of contents doesn't give us "something to talk about"?

But yet you support moving this thread to the "Restoration Forum" based on the table of contents?  On what basis can you decide one way and not the other?

Hmmm...

Here's a news flash for you:  The Spiritual Sword has no fellowship with the "Restoration movement" as defined by this board. 

Robert G

That is incorrect, unless it has no fellowship with its authors, who are part of the RM as defined by this board.


You may write your own dictionary, but don't expect others to use it.

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« Reply #19 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 18:21:34 »
If your mag had the guts to publish its articles on the web we might have something to talk about.  Until then your monthly postings deserve to be in the backwater.

So you feel simply posting the table of contents doesn't give us "something to talk about"?
Absolutely not
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But yet you support moving this thread to the "Restoration Forum" based on the table of contents?  On what basis can you decide one way and not the other?
I don't really care what forum it is put in -- I just think it is an utter waste of everyone's time if you don't post the articles.
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Hmmm...

Here's a news flash for you:  The Spiritual Sword has no fellowship with the "Restoration movement" as defined by this board.  It supports no affinity or activity with The DoC's or the Christian Churches.

It teaches the Bible and exposes error.  It is a doctrinal publication.  Its claim to the Restoration movement is limited to the CoC, and does not support what you and this board generally refer to as "the other two branches".
Who cares?
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As such, this thread properly belongs in the theology forum.

And that's why I put it there.

Robert G
That is up to the mods and admin, not us.  If it were my board, I would simply delete the post as it contains no substance.  As long as you continue to post the TOC only, I will continue to express my opinion -- it is gutless.  And see? Here I am allowing you to waste my time again.  Well that ends now -- I am done.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #20 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 19:20:15 »
Dennis,
Why have you become so bitter? I perceive a change in you over the last year.

Who are you to decide which posts are substantive and should be deleted? Those that have a different view than your own? You are better than this, Dennis.

Why is it necessary to post articles on the web to have "guts"? Lots of religious publications do not post their articles on the web. Whatever their reason, I'm certain it has nothing to do with a lack of "guts" regarding their articles. If you honestly believe this, call one of the authors with which you disagree and challenge him to a public debate...don't be surprised when they agree.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 21:10:17 »
That is up to the mods and admin, not us.  If it were my board, I would simply delete the post as it contains no substance.  As long as you continue to post the TOC only, I will continue to express my opinion -- it is gutless.  And see? Here I am allowing you to waste my time again.  Well that ends now -- I am done.

Dennis,

You've been flailing at The Spiritual Sword now for years, with no offering of substance to explain why.  It is you who lack the courage to explain your attacks, not anyone else's.

If simply posting the table of contents so sets you off, then it is on you to offer what you know about the Spiritual Sword that is so terrible, if you in fact have something.  But you don't.

This illustrates the overwhelming effectivenes of The Spiritual Sword.  It sends liberals into a tizzy, but they never have anything specific to show why they hate it so.  No other publication manages to push so many liberal buttons.  And doctrinally, it's bullet proof.

Such an effective publication deserves to be read.

Thank God for The Spiritual Sword and the fine men who put it together.  It's a bulwark against liberalism.

Robert G

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #22 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 21:19:54 »
Moderators may move threads to specific forums such as this whenever those threads are deemed more relevant to those specific forums.  Where the RM forum is concerned, this would hold true for threads on publications, such as this, when they are produced by Restoration Movement churches, where the focus is on RM/CofC-specific issues.

The Theology forum will now be more for general discussion on doctrinal issues, when those issues are not categorizable under other forums.

This is my thread.

I placed it in the theology forum.

Put it back, and leave it there.

Robert G 


Something tells me this approach did not work for you brother. 

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« Reply #23 on: Thu Oct 02, 2008 - 21:27:23 »
What's wrong with posting TOC?

Don't read the thread if you don't like it.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 07:19:25 »
Maybe it is just me, but it strikes me as silly to post a Table of Contents on a discussion thread.  I can just see it now, a knock-down dragout about what each of us thinks is in the article given the title.

Is it not possible to scan the articles and post them or is the publication more concerned about their dollars?

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #25 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 07:42:23 »
I'm pretty sure the Getwell Church of Christ has the means and know-how to publish their magazine on-line, they just choose not to for whatever reason. 

The SS is a small, inhouse project for them, priced to break even rather than earn a profit.  I'd imagine that a couple of things are true - a sizable bloc of their readership is older and less connected to technology, and publishing online might negatively affect the income that makes publication of a print edition possible.

Irrespective of their views, the decision not to publish online makes them a relic of a day long since passed.  Sooner or later they will change, or perish.

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« Reply #26 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 08:41:22 »
That is up to the mods and admin, not us.  If it were my board, I would simply delete the post as it contains no substance.  As long as you continue to post the TOC only, I will continue to express my opinion -- it is gutless.  And see? Here I am allowing you to waste my time again.  Well that ends now -- I am done.

Dennis,

You've been flailing at The Spiritual Sword now for years, with no offering of substance to explain why.  It is you who lack the courage to explain your attacks, not anyone else's.

If simply posting the table of contents so sets you off, then it is on you to offer what you know about the Spiritual Sword that is so terrible, if you in fact have something.  But you don't.

This illustrates the overwhelming effectivenes of The Spiritual Sword.  It sends liberals into a tizzy, but they never have anything specific to show why they hate it so.  No other publication manages to push so many liberal buttons.  And doctrinally, it's bullet proof.

Such an effective publication deserves to be read.

Thank God for The Spiritual Sword and the fine men who put it together.  It's a bulwark against liberalism.

Robert G
I repent -- I should not have agreed to let you have the last word.

I am not flailing against the SS.  I am flailing against your posting of the TOC with no logical purpose other than to stir things up.  That is what I specifically am referring to as gutless.  And that was a well considered term that I am comfortable with.  I should simply ignore it and I will try to do that next month. 

On the other hand, I do believe that the SS lacks courage in not posting online.  I understand the economic arguments some have posited for not doing so, but I do not buy them.  Other similarly targeted publications [like STOP] do post online and seem to do fine.

If you want to discuss issues, then let's discuss issues.  There might even be one or two on which I agree with you.

And OKI.  I am not bitter, just calling it like I see it.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 09:18:16 »
Maybe it is just me, but it strikes me as silly to post a Table of Contents on a discussion thread.  I can just see it now, a knock-down dragout about what each of us thinks is in the article given the title.

Is it not possible to scan the articles and post them or is the publication more concerned about their dollars?
They don't post the articles, probably, because they want you to subscribe to the magazine. There are many publications that do that, including some which are much more expensive than SS.

Now, they might make it available for subscribers, or sell articles singly on line, but that endeavor may be more than they care to take on at the moment.

It's their call, and it is a quite common one for print periodicals.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 09:29:31 »
They don't post the articles, probably, because they want you to subscribe to the magazine.

In which case... this was not a topic for discussion post at all, but rather an ad for a magazine.

In most cases, we will remove posts where the sole purpose is to advertise things... otherwise known as spam.  In this case, it was actually very generous for the mod team to let this ad even stay up.

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« Reply #29 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 10:30:15 »
They don't post the articles, probably, because they want you to subscribe to the magazine.

In which case... this was not a topic for discussion post at all, but rather an ad for a magazine.

In most cases, we will remove posts where the sole purpose is to advertise things... otherwise known as spam.  In this case, it was actually very generous for the mod team to let this ad even stay up.


I wonder how subscribing by print reaches more audience with the "truth" than posting the articles on a discussion Forum - if that is the real goal.  It does appear that posting a TOC here has more to do with a personal agenda rather than a desire to communicate a position and thus invite dialogue.

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #30 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 11:04:33 »
So mistergus what did you want to discuss about this publication?

Apparently this quarter it is about "crisis in the pulpit", what crisis are you refering to and whose pulpits?

Ken

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #31 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 11:11:42 »
So mistergus what did you want to discuss about this publication?

Apparently this quarter it is about "crisis in the pulpit", what crisis are you refering to and whose pulpits?

Ken

I wonder where the "pulpit" is found in the bible.

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« Reply #32 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 11:12:54 »
That sounds like an intriguing topic... one I would personally be interested in.  But, without an article to look at or a write-up about it...

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« Reply #33 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 11:13:35 »
That sounds like an intriguing topic... one I would personally be interested in.  But, without an article to look at or a write-up about it...

Where is the authorization for a "pulpit?"

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Re: The Spiritual Sword - October 2008 Issue
« Reply #34 on: Fri Oct 03, 2008 - 11:16:05 »
Jesus once used a mountain as a pulpit (Matthew 5:1).  ::preachit::

Beyond that, I must conclude that a wooden podium on a raised platform up front is a tradition of man.  ::priest::

 

     
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