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What really Happens When We Die?
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Part 1
What is the Spirit and Soul?

The Spirit and Soul is something that is very misunderstood by many so we will primarily let the Strong’s dictionary followed by the Bible defines what they are. Put simply, the Spirit is basically the BREATH of life from God. Both the Greek and Hebrew words translate “spirit
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Part 2

In the Beginning 
God formed Adam and Breathed into him a Life giving Spirit
and Adam then became   “a LIVING SOUL.
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Part 3

Job 27:3  As long as my BREATH is in me, And the breath of God in my nostrils, 
The SPIRIT of God does not live in our nose! This is referring to the BREATH of LIFE from God that gives Life

(Job 33:4)  the BREATH (Spirit) of the Almighty GIVES me LIFE.

In Genesis 3:22-24 God did not want Adam and Eve AFTER SIN to take from “the TREE OF LIFE, and eat, and live for ever.
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Part 4

(2Ti 1:10) But is NOW made manifest by the APPEARING of our Savior Jesus Christ, who hath ABOLISHED DEATH, and hath brought LIFE and IMMORTALITY to LIGHT through the GOSPEL:

1Co 15:42  This is how it will be WHEN the DEAD are RAISED TO LIFE. When the BODY is BURIED, it is MORTAL; when RAISED, it WILL be IMMORTAL.
 
Rom 2:7  Some people keep on doing good, and SEEK glory, honor, and IMMORTAL LIFE; to them God will GIVE ETERNAL LIFE.  (This will happen at his appearing)

Act 2:26  And so I am filled with gladness, and my words are full of joy. And I, “MORTAL
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Part 5

(Last day is Last Trumpet is sounded, this is when all the heavenly host gather together with God and are coming to redeem Christ children the angels are the reapers )

 (Mat 16:27)  For the Son of Man WILL COME in the glory of HIS FATHER with HIS ANGELS, and THEN He will reward each according to his works.

(Mat 24:31)  And He will SEND HIS ANGELS with a great SOUND of a TRUMPET, and they WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(Mat 24:36)  "But of that DAY and HOUR NO ONE KNOWS, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father ONLY.



Reaping of the Saints on to Eternal Life

Rev 14:12  Here is the patience of the SAINTS; here are THOSE who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God and the FAITH of JESUS.

Rev 14:13  Then I HEARD a voice FROM HEAVEN saying to me, "Write: 'Blessed are the DEAD WHO DIE in the Lord FROM NOW ON.' " "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may REST from their labors, and their works follow them."
Rev 14:14  Then I looked, and behold, a WHITE CLOUD (of Angels) , and on the cloud sat ONE LIKE the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a SHARP SICKLE.

Rev 14:15  And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, "Thrust in Your sickle and REAP, for the TIME HAS COME for You to REAP, for the HARVEST of the earth is ripe."
Rev 14:16  So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

Rev 20:6  BLESSED and holy is HE that hath PART in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the SECOND DEATH hath NO POWER, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years
(Luk 20:36)  NOR can they DIE ANYMORE, for they are EQUAL to the ANGELS and are SONS of God, being SONS of the RESURRECTION.

For the people who come up in this RESURRECTION they will be given IMMORTALITY like angels of God in heaven.


For in the First resurrection Christ Children will be given IMMORTALITY like the ANGELS of God in heaven. They will not suffer the SECOND DEATH is Final eternal Death ,
(Rev 20:14)  Then DEATH and HADES (Grave) were cast into the LAKE of FIRE. This is the SECOND DEATH.

The end result of the Lake of Fire is destroying all Sin, Death, and Tombs which the dead bodies go into…there will be no more death…

 (Rev 21:4)  And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be NO MORE DEATH, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."
(Rom 6:9)  KNOWING that Christ, having been RAISED from the DEAD, DIES NO MORE. DEATH NO LONGER has dominion over Him.
(2Ki 2:21)  "Thus says the LORD: 'I have healed this water; from it there shall be NO MORE DEATH or barrenness.' "

(Rev 2:11)  "He who has an ear, LET HIM HEAR what the SPIRIT SAYS to the churches. He who overcomes SHALL NOT be HURT by the SECOND DEATH." '

Rev 19:10  BRETHREN who have the “TESTIMONY

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 Part 6

The reaping of the wicked, followers of Satan onto Eternal Death

Rev 14:17  Then ANOTHER ANGEL came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a SHARP SICKLE.
Rev 14:18  And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, "THRUST IN YOUR SHARP SICKLE and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe."
Rev 14:19  So the ANGEL THRUST HIS SICKLE into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and THREW IT INTO THE GREAT WINEPRESS of the WRATH OF GOD.

 (Rom 1:18)  For the “WRATH of GOD

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Part 7

In the Beginning Jesus was Born as Human Being just as we are Born from a Mother’s womb, He had a Body and the spirit of Life the Breath that sustained his life,  he grew as Baby to Man then he died and was risen from the Dead,  the exact same sequence that happens to us till our own Resurrection, the only difference is we get NEW Bodies, he never received a New Body, he had the Nail and hole prints in his Body to prove this…

Let’s review the sequence of Death back to life


Luk 23:46  And when JESUS had cried out with a loud voice, He said, "Father, 'INTO your hands I commit MY SPIRIT.' " Having said this, He BREATHED his LAST.

(Jas 2:26)  For as the BODY without the SPIRIT is DEAD,  (meaning Dead Soul)  Jesus Died 

1Pe 3:18  For Christ also suffered once for sins, the JUST for the UNJUST, that He might bring us to God, being put to DEATH in the flesh but MADE ALIVE by the SPIRIT,


His BODY was placed in HADES which means the GRAVE or TOMB waiting His resurrection day called the “First

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Re: What really Happens When We Die?
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Part 8

The Good News of Salvation
the Bible clearly  says what  will happen when Christ returns to Redeem us from the earth and take us back to heaven, its called the Resurrection day the Last Trumpet,

The Last Day when the Souls who are Dead in Christ  will receive their  New Immortal BODY and the SPIRIT that supports the life in the Body will return to them, only then will a person be able to SEE and TOUCH and talk to our Savior, the person will now have Brain Restored with the memory of who they are, the good deeds they have done on this earth restored, they will now be able to continue to be taught and learn from God of the Kingdom of God and eventually able to receive the other gifts of the Holy Spirit has to offer…


 Since Death in the bible is called Sleep, God is communicating to us that it will be as if they never died, only Moment of thought passing in the night, 1000 years of sleep is twinkling moment in time to the dead person waiting for Christ to return and wake them up from their SLEEP with loud trumpet and the Voice from God… and the dead in Christ will rise first…

1Co 15:52  in a MOMENT, in the TWINKLING of an eye, at the LAST TRUMPET. For the TRUMPET will sound, and the DEAD WILL BE RAISED incorruptible, and WE SHALL BE CHANGED.
1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will DESCEND from HEAVEN with a SHOUT, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the DEAD IN CHRIST will RISE FIRST.

Psa 90:2  Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.
Psa 90:3  You turn MAN to DESTRUCTION, And say, "RETURN, O children of men."
Psa 90:4  For a THOUSAND YEARS in Your sight Are LIKE YESTERDAY when it is PAST, And like a WATCH IN THE NIGHT.
Psa 90:5  They are LIKE A “SLEEP
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Re: What really Happens When We Die?
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 Simple answer is we stop breathing.

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Simple answer is we stop breathing.

No arguing with that one.

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Re: What really Happens When We Die?
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I was with my father at his bed side when he died not long ago, and I witnessed him taking his last breath and when the breath went out of him he died, I felt his body and even though his body was still warm, there was no life in him….

Jesus said;
Joh 3:12  If I have told you EARTHLY things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you HEAVENLY things?

All scripture has Earthly real Body fleshly experiences, so it is also true for the Spiritual Conversion in the Heart Mind and Soul which is eternal,  meaning in both cases for without the Spirit of God working in the Body, both are dead, also without the Spirit of God those things that he is trying to do in our minds and hearts will have no meaning to us,

to understand the Conversion experience is to put our trust in the word of God, that he is doing his good pleasure in renewing the heart and mind of every soul that is willing by the working of the Holy Spirit,  the bible teaches us this is done by submitting to God letting his spirit lead us in every way , structuring and teaching us through our own experience , but if we don’t believe the simple earthly truths of what Christ taught, which are things that we can see with our own eyes handle with our own hands , the other teachings will have no effect… Such as this topic about a dead person, God says that when a dead person dies the Breath leaves them, which  the Bible translates the Breath as the spirit, which translates  as having no life , that’s the simple truth as we know it, ask any Doctor in the world he will tell you the same thing,,  The word of God says it many times..

Understanding Death is also just as important as understanding Life...
Which is just as important to understand the difference of SIN and Righteousness as it is about what Belief is to  Unbelief,  

we all seek to understand what the spirit is doing in transforming our sinful person to his image in Life long process that will continue throughout eternity… even the Angels in heaven desire to learn about...
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I was with my father at his bed side when he died not long ago, and I witnessed him taking his last breath and when the breath went out of him he died, I felt his body and even though his body was still warm, there was no life in him….

Jesus said;
Joh 3:12  If I have told you EARTHLY things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you HEAVENLY things?

All scripture has Earthly real Body fleshly experiences, so it is also true for the Spiritual Conversion in the Heart Mind and Soul which is eternal,  meaning in both cases for without the Spirit of God working in the Body, both are dead, also without the Spirit of God those things that he is trying to do in our minds and hearts will have no meaning to us,

to understand the Conversion experience is to put our trust in the word of God, that he is doing his good pleasure in renewing the heart and mind of every soul that is willing by the working of the Holy Spirit,  the bible teaches us this is done by submitting to God letting his spirit lead us in every way , structuring and teaching us through our own experience , but if we don’t believe the simple earthly truths of what Christ taught, which are things that we can see with our own eyes handle with our own hands , the other teachings will have no effect… Such as this topic about a dead person, God says that when a dead person dies the Breath leaves them, which  the Bible translates the Breath as the spirit, which translates  as having no life , that’s the simple truth as we know it, ask any Doctor in the world he will tell you the same thing,,  The word of God says it many times..

Understanding Death is also just as important as understanding Life...
Which is just as important to understand the difference of SIN and Righteousness as it is about what Belief is to  Unbelief, 

we all seek to understand what the spirit is doing in transforming our sinful person to his image in Life long process that will continue throughout eternity… even the Angels in heaven desire to learn about...
And you have to add that Christ will return with a real body for all to see, and not a secret rapture.

Acts 1:9-11 King James Version (KJV)

9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

 

     
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