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Are there any 7th Day Baptist Here ?
« on: Sun Jan 18, 2009 - 16:27:25 »
I was wondering if any 7th day Baptists were on this website ?

These people apparently observe the 7th day sabbath, just like Jesus and all His apostles did.

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Re: Are there any 7th Day Baptist Here ?
« Reply #1 on: Sun Jan 18, 2009 - 17:12:21 »
I was wondering if any 7th day Baptists were on this website ?
 
These people apparently observe the 7th day sabbath, just like Jesus and all His apostles did.

After the death of Jesus, it was the First day.  See Acts 20.

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« Reply #2 on: Sun Jan 18, 2009 - 22:01:43 »
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After the death of Jesus, it was the First day.  See Acts 20.



Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

The Jewish day started at evening.  Thus, in order for Paul to have been preaching on the first day of the week until midnight, it would have had to be what we consider Saturday night.  Thus Paul preached on what we consider Saturday night until midnight, planning to depart Sunday. 

Even if though, Paul had preached on Sunday morning, this would be no proof that the fourth commandment had been done away with.  If this one verse in the book of Acts means the first day had replaced the seventh day as the Sabbath in the new covenant, then these next four verses certainly in the book of Acts certainly establish the seventh day Sabbath in the same.


Acts 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. 15 And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on. 16 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.

Here Paul preached on the Sabbath in the synagogue.  I guess according to your mind set, this means we should be going to the synagogue on Sabbath still.

Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. 43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. 44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Of course, the above verses according to your mind set, mean that the gentiles which accepted Christ, still observed the seventh day Sabbath, and so should we.  I have no argument with that.

Acts 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: 2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. 4 And some of them believed, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and of the devout Greeks a great multitude, and of the chief women not a few.

Here we have Paul preaching not just one Sabbath, but three in a row.  Not only Jews accepted the message, but a great multitude of Greeks.  Of course this is far more, and conclusive proof that the Sabbath was still being observed during the time of the Apostles, than the one obscure proof text which you have offered.

Acts 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

More of the same.  Paul reasoned with the Jews and Greeks every Sabbath in the synagogue while in Corinth.  According to verse eleven of the same chapter Paul stayed there a year and six months teaching the word of God among them.  Surely, if as you suggest, the mere mention of one preaching on a certain day is evidence that that day was the Sabbath of the new covenant, then by your own reasoning, the seventh day is still the Sabbath of the new covenant.  Of course I feel sure that you will now modify your reasoning.  Or, perhaps I have misunderstood your reasoning.  If so, my apologies, and please do explain further.






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« Reply #3 on: Mon Jan 19, 2009 - 11:09:16 »
              The church gathered together on the 1st day of week to reconize the resurection. The Jews in the synoguges to reconize the creation.
 Still the Bible says not to judge men accoring to Holy Days-
The point is,Jesus didn't come to do away with the law but to fulfill it.
Let me give an example,.....Christ said that if you look and lust in your heart you have commited adultery.Likewise,the Sabbath for a Christian should be EVERYDAY!

On the other hand,the Adventise movement is a child of the "Mother" and should be regarded as a false church!!!!!!

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« Reply #5 on: Wed Aug 26, 2009 - 15:13:44 »
I was wondering if any 7th day Baptists were on this website ?

These people apparently observe the 7th day sabbath, just like Jesus and all His apostles did.


The deciples also worked  on saturday  in the fields .  Harvesting  grain to eat .

 The old sabbath day pointed to the real rest  Jewish people would have one day in Jesus
it was a shadow of the much  better rest to come.  WHICH IS Jesus

 

Luke 6:1 (New International Version)

Luke 6
Lord of the Sabbath
 1 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels.
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Re: Are there any 7th Day Baptist Here ?
« Reply #6 on: Thu Nov 12, 2009 - 11:10:06 »
I was wondering if any 7th day Baptists were on this website ?

These people apparently observe the 7th day sabbath, just like Jesus and all His apostles did.


The deciples also worked  on saturday  in the fields .  Harvesting  grain to eat .

 The old sabbath day pointed to the real rest  Jewish people would have one day in Jesus
it was a shadow of the much  better rest to come.  WHICH IS Jesus

 

Luke 6:1 (New International Version)

Luke 6
Lord of the Sabbath
 1 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels.

Hey guys. 
This will be my first posting here.  I like some of the discussions I've seen and for the most part very intelligent and respectful.   

I had to reply to this saying that Luke 6 is about the opposite.  What I read that , "his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels." it doesn't sound like harvesting to me.  In fact if you read the rest of the chapter it wasn't. 
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2 But some of the Pharisees said, “Why do you do what is not lawful on the Sabbath?

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Re: Are there any 7th Day Baptist Here ?
« Reply #7 on: Thu Nov 12, 2009 - 18:05:56 »
I'm puzzled as to why this thread was moved.  It was about Seventh-Day Baptists.  The Admin considers Seventh-Day Baptists to be SDA?   I think both SDA and SDB would take exception to that. 

I'm pretty new here but do all threads get moved to the SDA forum automatically as soon as the Sabbath is mentioned?

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« Reply #8 on: Fri Nov 13, 2009 - 10:44:34 »
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After the death of Jesus, it was the First day.  See Acts 20.
And yet most Chrtistians at least as late as the 5th century kept the Sabbath. Also, in India till the 1540's they kept the Sabbath when Xavier went there and till 1602 in Ethiopia.  I don't know when they stopped in Ireland.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat Nov 14, 2009 - 09:41:15 »
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After the death of Jesus, it was the First day.  See Acts 20.
And yet most Chrtistians at least as late as the 5th century kept the Sabbath. Also, in India till the 1540's they kept the Sabbath when Xavier went there and till 1602 in Ethiopia.  I don't know when they stopped in Ireland.

In Troas, Paul met with the disciples on the first day, and broke bread (Lord's Supper) with them.  Apostle and disciples met on the first day.

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« Reply #10 on: Sat Nov 14, 2009 - 09:42:49 »
I'm puzzled as to why this thread was moved.  It was about Seventh-Day Baptists.  The Admin considers Seventh-Day Baptists to be SDA?   I think both SDA and SDB would take exception to that. 

I'm pretty new here but do all threads get moved to the SDA forum automatically as soon as the Sabbath is mentioned?

No, the Admin doesn't consider SDB's to be SDA.

But for the most part, yes, Sabbath discussions will get moved here, unless you state you are a Seventh Day Baptist, and then they will be moved to the Baptist subforum.

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In Troas, Paul met with the disciples on the first day, and broke bread (Lord's Supper) with them.  Apostle and disciples met on the first day.

Actually, they met with the believers at Troas on our Saturday nite because Paul, Luke and others went by ship to Assos on Sunday morning (verse 12).  During the meeting they ate a late supper and then another meal after midnight or so (verses 7 and 11).

Most Christians as late as the 5th century kept the Sabbath.  In India they did so till the 1540's when Xavier arrived.  In Ethopia they did so till 1602.  I don't know the date when they ceased to keep the Sabbath in Ireland.

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In Troas, Paul met with the disciples on the first day, and broke bread (Lord's Supper) with them.  Apostle and disciples met on the first day.

Actually, they met with the believers at Troas on our Saturday nite because Paul, Luke and others went by ship to Assos on Sunday morning (verse 12).  During the meeting they ate a late supper and then another meal after midnight or so (verses 7 and 11).

Most Christians as late as the 5th century kept the Sabbath.  In India they did so till the 1540's when Xavier arrived.  In Ethopia they did so till 1602.  I don't know the date when they ceased to keep the Sabbath in Ireland.

Saturday night?  Yes, the first day.

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Saturday night?  Yes, the first day.

By Jewish reckoning.  After sundown Sabbath, you'd have the first day.  Not Sunday morning--our Saturday nite.

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Saturday night?  Yes, the first day.

By Jewish reckoning.  After sundown Sabbath, you'd have the first day.  Not Sunday morning--our Saturday nite.

They met on the first day.   I am correct.  Verse 7 is quite clear.

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They met on the first day.

By Jewish reckoning.

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I am correct.

I didn't know that it was a contest.  If I had known I would habve pointed out that I was right in noting that it was Saturday night, not Sunday morning and that I was right 4 more times:

"Most Christians as late as the 5th century kept the Sabbath.  In India they did so till the 1540's when Xavier arrived.  In Ethopia they did so till 1602.  I don't know the date when they ceased to keep the Sabbath in Ireland."

But, I don't play that game.

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Verse 7 is quite clear.

As are verse 11 and 12.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed Nov 18, 2009 - 21:31:20 »
              The church gathered together on the 1st day of week to reconize the resurection.
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That is a false statement !

That meeting had NOTHING to do with honoring Christ's resurrection...READ  the whole chapter.

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« Reply #17 on: Wed Nov 18, 2009 - 21:39:17 »
Is the breaking of the bread in Acts 20 considered the Lord's Supper because it was the first day of the week? Would they not have eaten a regular meal, also referred to as breaking bread, on Sunday?

Sometimes I don't know if this is a justification for Sunday worship because there was a communion, or it was a communion because it happened on Sunday.

Act 2:46  Day after day they met together in the temple. They broke bread together in different homes and shared their food happily and freely.

Also, it probably bears noting that the Lord's supper back then was more than the requisite 1.5 mm triangular corner of a matzo cracker and a precise 1/4 oz plastic cup of grape juice. In Corinth later, Paul had to admonish the brethren for gorging themselves and getting drunk during communion. How'd they get drunk on grape juice?? ::geek::
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« Reply #19 on: Sat Dec 05, 2009 - 00:32:10 »
Is the breaking of the bread in Acts 20 considered the Lord's Supper because it was the first day of the week? Would they not have eaten a regular meal, also referred to as breaking bread, on Sunday?

Sometimes I don't know if this is a justification for Sunday worship because there was a communion, or it was a communion because it happened on Sunday.

Act 2:46  Day after day they met together in the temple. They broke bread together in different homes and shared their food happily and freely.

Also, it probably bears noting that the Lord's supper back then was more than the requisite 1.5 mm triangular corner of a matzo cracker and a precise 1/4 oz plastic cup of grape juice. In Corinth later, Paul had to admonish the brethren for gorging themselves and getting drunk during communion. How'd they get drunk on grape juice?? ::geek::

I support you here in that as I understand it "break bread" is not an exclusive term meaning to have sacrament, it really means to share a meal.  If you look up the term in a entomological dictionary it will bear this out.  Bread was a staple and was often not cut up but portions were broken off for each person. 

If the entire Sunday worship is hung on this one passage you have to ask yourself.  If God really intended for his followers to give up the Sabbath that he spent thousands of years establishing would he have only left us this one tenuous passage to tell us that?   Why would He not just come right out and say it?  God is very clear with his expectations with us in every other way.  All of a sudden he starts to beat around the bush and give us vague passages that are suppose to indicate that his sanctified holy day has changed, without him actually saying it.   

God wrote the ten commandments with his own hand on stone tablets .  Deu 4:13 5:22 9:10 Ex 24:12 31:18 34:1  It's mentioned quite a few time that it's written with Gods own hands on stone tablets, is that significant?  It should be an indicator that they were important and not meant to be changed or altered in any way.   Even today when we say something is "written in stone" it means permanent and unchanging.  The laws that were transitory were all written on parchment by Moses.  Why the distinction?  Why would not God just have Moses write out all the old covenant laws and the ten commandments and have them all on paper.  It would be a whole lot easier.   

And then Jesus could have just came right out and told us, 'oh, by the way, you don't have to keep the sabbath after I'm gone.'   Jesus Shouldn't have needed to spend so much time telling people how to correctly observe the sabbath when it was to be abolished?  Why did God start the 4th commandment with the word "remember", like He knew it would be forgotten? 

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Re: Are there any 7th Day Baptist Here ?
« Reply #20 on: Sat Dec 19, 2009 - 02:12:46 »
im not going to preach at you but baptist and 7th day baptist are two different religions
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 rofl

Hilarious...did you all forget the OP's question?  You need to start a thread about what day is the Sabbath instead of hi-jacking this thread.   ::noworries::

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« Reply #22 on: Mon Dec 21, 2009 - 01:44:00 »
rofl

Hilarious...did you all forget the OP's question?  You need to start a thread about what day is the Sabbath instead of hi-jacking this thread.   ::noworries::

Seems to me the moderators derailed it when they moved it from the Baptist's forum to the SDA's.   I didn't understand why it was moved.  I guess someone jumped in on the second post saying Acts 20 said Sabbath was changed to Sunday, then it was pretty much derailed at that point. 

I know there is a huge difference between SDA and SDB but since the mods moved the thread here they felt (right or wrong) was a SDA topic.

I'm guess there are no SDB here (unless the OP is) nobody seems to have chimed in to indicate so.

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« Reply #23 on: Tue Mar 02, 2010 - 20:16:57 »
              The church gathered together on the 1st day of week to recognize the Resurrection. The Jews in the synagogues to recognize the creation.
 Still the Bible says not to judge men according to Holy Days-
The point is,Jesus didn't come to do away with the law but to fulfill it.
Let me give an example,.....Christ said that if you look and lust in your heart you have committed adultery.Likewise,the Sabbath for a Christian should be EVERYDAY!

On the other hand,the Adventist movement is a child of the "Mother" and should be regarded as a false church!!!!!!
RUBBISH,
The disciples being JEWS gathered together on the first day of the week as their COSTOM is to get all their business organized for the week.
That is how JEWS always worked.
Any other idea is from the world. Hebrew 4 says the day remained the 7th day