This thread subject was started two years ago by a lady who has not been back since base on the information concerning who she is and her last visit, etc. Are we sinners?
We are born sinners from the womb, for all that is born of the flesh from Adam are born sinners~ all it takes is growth to prove we are sinners and it does not take very long to prove this is so with all born of the flesh.
John 3:6,7~That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
Before one can even see himself as a sinful being they need the power of God to give them a new heart that can believe and love him.....so, that person MUST BE BORN AGAIN FIRST and even then
the battle between the FLESH and the Spirit will "just begin" (until then sin in our flesh is laying dormant to our understanding~see scriptures quoted below*) that should show us just how sinful our flesh truly IS
. Or, DO we sin?
No "or" about this question~even though a sinner is born again by the power of God, they still are sinners who need daily forgiveness in order to walk in fellowship with God
and that as long as we live in this body OF SIN and death. Sin cannot ever be eradicated from this flesh that we received from Adam's generation. That's why God creates a NEW MAN within us, he does not ONE THING to our old man for it is destined to perish.
Romans 7:5-9~"For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died."
When one is born again SIN REVIVES in our members and we are able to see that it works DEATH IN US, but not
until then. Of course the more a person strives to live holy according to the scriptures THE MORE SIN shows its working in our members! Self-righteous people DO NOT know anything of sin working in their members, for they have not the Spirit of God in them.
Okay, here's a new thread started~I said very little on an important subject. The floor is open.....RB
I just noticed that this is in the SDA forum section~I guess that's okay even though I'm not one of them.