Are you a born again christian ? Sabbath Discussion

[3AM]

God says He will correct our behavior patterns....I don't believe that God just supplied the tools then it's up to us to use them...

He says that He will CAUSE us to walk in His statutes....if it were up to us to change ourselves or our behavior, we would never change...

God begins the work of salvation and He completes it...He also does everything else in between... It is all of Him and none of me...any change that takes place in my life God does it....

God bless

OK...let me ask you a question.

Do you keep the 7th day sabbath, as God tells Christians to do ?


 20:20   And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God. 


 6:46   And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 

[ed2]

no, i don't keep the sabbath and all that it encompasses ...for i am not a jew...

[3AM]

no, i don't keep the sabbath and all that it encompasses ...for i am not a jew...

The 7th day sabbath, was not given to the Jews.

The Bible says that the sabbath was made for 'man'.......
Mark  2:27   And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 
  2:28   Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. 


It was made some 2300+ Years before there ever was an Jew (Israelite)

Genesis 2:2   And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 
  2:3   And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 

[Fem2009]

God says He will correct our behavior patterns....I don't believe that God just supplied the tools then it's up to us to use them...

He says that He will CAUSE us to walk in His statutes....if it were up to us to change ourselves or our behavior, we would never change...

God begins the work of salvation and He completes it...He also does everything else in between... It is all of Him and none of me...any change that takes place in my life God does it....

God bless

OK...let me ask you a question.

Do you keep the 7th day sabbath, as God tells Christians to do ?


 20:20   And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God. 


 6:46   And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 

If we followed the sabbath wouldn't that require not being online Friday sundown until Saturday sundown?

[ed2]

as stated befor i don't keep the sabbath nor all that it entails...

[Fem2009]

That was addressed to 3AM

[Amo]

If we followed the sabbath wouldn't that require not being online Friday sundown until Saturday sundown?

I don't even think the Scribes or Pharisees of Jesus day had a problem with sharing the truth on the Sabbath.  I know Jesus didn't.  Why would you?

[Hobie]

God says He will correct our behavior patterns....I don't believe that God just supplied the tools then it's up to us to use them...

He says that He will CAUSE us to walk in His statutes....if it were up to us to change ourselves or our behavior, we would never change...

God begins the work of salvation and He completes it...He also does everything else in between... It is all of Him and none of me...any change that takes place in my life God does it....

God bless

OK...let me ask you a question.

Do you keep the 7th day sabbath, as God tells Christians to do ?


 20:20   And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.  


 6:46   And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?  

If we followed the sabbath wouldn't that require not being online Friday sundown until Saturday sundown?

Did Jesus stop healing, preaching and doing good on the Sabbath?

Matthew 12:12
How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

[ed2]

the reason I (me) don't keep the sabbath is because I believe it was nullified...it is the only one of the 10 commandment not repeated in the NT...

i do not believe Scripture requires me to "keep" the sabbath or any other day for that matter...

sabbath was the sign of the mosaic covenant...just as the rainbow was the sign of the covenant God made with noah...but christians are under the new covenant

the first command to keep the sabbath was not until the time of moses...(ex. 20:8) no one before moses was commanded to keep it...

the jerusalem council did not order gentile believers to keep the sabbath (acts 15)


we are not to esteem one day over the other...christians that worship on saturday are not worshipping saturn as the pagans did

christians that worship on sunday are not worshipping some sun god as the pagans did...

so if you want to keep the sabbath (seventh) go right ahead...but do not call me the anti-christ for setting, let's say,  tuesday aside as a special day..

let's remember col. 2:16-17

God bless

[kensington]

If we followed the sabbath wouldn't that require not being online Friday sundown until Saturday sundown?

I don't even think the Scribes or Pharisees of Jesus day had a problem with sharing the truth on the Sabbath.  I know Jesus didn't.  Why would you?

Did you know that was one of the reasons they kept against him to crucify him...  one of the reason's they thought he blasphemed.  

(Matthew 15:1-2, & 12)   (Mark 3:1-5)  (Mark 6:6-11)   (Matthew 12:9-14) 

[Hobie]

the reason I (me) don't keep the sabbath is because I believe it was nullified...it is the only one of the 10 commandment not repeated in the NT...

i do not believe Scripture requires me to "keep" the sabbath or any other day for that matter...

sabbath was the sign of the mosaic covenant...just as the rainbow was the sign of the covenant God made with noah...but christians are under the new covenant

the first command to keep the sabbath was not until the time of moses...(ex. 20:8) no one before moses was commanded to keep it...

the jerusalem council did not order gentile believers to keep the sabbath (acts 15)


we are not to esteem one day over the other...christians that worship on saturday are not worshipping saturn as the pagans did

christians that worship on sunday are not worshipping some sun god as the pagans did...

so if you want to keep the sabbath (seventh) go right ahead...but do not call me the anti-christ for setting, let's say,  tuesday aside as a special day..

let's remember col. 2:16-17

God bless

So then even thought Jesus as the Creator made the Sabbath Holy and Sanctified it as a special day for man, you dont accept the gift he made for man.

[ed2]

yes i do accept the gift of sabbath (or rest)...but in a NT way...my rest is in Christ....since He is Lord of the sabbath and His Spirit dwells in me, my rest is in Him not some special day...

the OT folks did not have this available to them therefore there rest was on the seventh day...likewise the people Jesus spoke to in the Gospels did not have this available to them either...so they also kept the sabbath (day)...as did Jesus (kind of)...

Jesus fulfilled EVERY requirement of the law, and since His Spirit is in all believers, He has fulfilled EVERY requirement of the law for US....even the Sabbath (rest)...HE is our rest...

if you want to keep some special day then go for it...that's your business and i'm not saying you are wrong...i'm just explaining why i don't keep any special days...Christ has kept them for me...

God bless

[Hobie]

yes i do accept the gift of sabbath (or rest)...but in a NT way...my rest is in Christ....since He is Lord of the sabbath and His Spirit dwells in me, my rest is in Him not some special day...

the OT folks did not have this available to them therefore there rest was on the seventh day...likewise the people Jesus spoke to in the Gospels did not have this available to them either...so they also kept the sabbath (day)...as did Jesus (kind of)...

Jesus fulfilled EVERY requirement of the law, and since His Spirit is in all believers, He has fulfilled EVERY requirement of the law for US....even the Sabbath (rest)...HE is our rest...

if you want to keep some special day then go for it...that's your business and i'm not saying you are wrong...i'm just explaining why i don't keep any special days...Christ has kept them for me...

God bless

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

If Christ is in you then the truth He gave is what is in you, but yet you reject it to follow your own ideas...

Mark 7:7-9
7Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
 8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Christ makes clear that what He set from Creation was not to be changed..

Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

[ed2]

you said "Christ makes clear that what He set from Creation was not to be changed.."


changed by men that is...but God can indeed change whatever plan He started...in fact He has changed many things since creation...most notable change is the plan of salvation....

all the verses you quoted in your previous post were not to christians since there were no christians at this time (during Jesus' earthly ministry)...the bible only refers to 3 groups of people...jews, gentiles, and christians...there were no christians until after the day of pentecost...the jews were under the law and gentiles never knew of the law...

the NT (starting with the book of acts) makes it clear that gentile converts could not be brought under the law...any part of it...in fact Paul says that if we are subject to any part of the law then we shall be subject to ALL of it...in other words we cannot pick parts out of the mosaic law and choose to keep them but disregard other parts..

so if i were to keep the sabbath as stated in the law, then i would have to keep all the law, including animal sacrifices for sin, wearing my hair and beard like the law says, and so on and so forth...and no one can keep every single law except Jesus...he fulfilled everyone of them for me...in other words He kept the law for me...so my trust and confidence is 100% in Him and 0% in my ability to keep every law or commandment....

if we love God with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength AND love our neighbor as ourself then every other law is fulfilled in Christ...

God bless

[Fem2009]

If we followed the sabbath wouldn't that require not being online Friday sundown until Saturday sundown?

I don't even think the Scribes or Pharisees of Jesus day had a problem with sharing the truth on the Sabbath.  I know Jesus didn't.  Why would you?

Why would I have a problem sharing the truth on the Sabbath? Is that what you're asking me? If it is:

I don't have a problem sharing the truth about the Sabbath and what the laws of God are.