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« on: April 05, 2009, 12:35:44 PM »

How many people here, understand that the Bible speaks of an Investigative Judgment Day for Christians ?

1 Peter  4:17   For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God ? 


Again, the Bible speaks about a Judgment Day......

 Revelation  14:6   And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 
  14:7   Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 

Did you catch that ?

That the Gospel message contains, the Judgment ?

Here, I'll highlight for you.....

 14:6   And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 
  14:7   Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 

The question now is.....how to prepare yourself to pass God's Judgment Day ?

For one thing....what questions is God going to ask of a person, to be able to pass God's 'Investigative Judgment' ?


Now a little known fact, is that in the Judgment process, a person's name can be taken out of the Book of Life......did you know that ?

The Bible has stated at least 3 times, that a person's name can be taken out of the Book of Life.

 That fact alone, destroys the idea of "Once Saved, Always Saved"



There is a preparation, needed to be done, by every person, who wants eternal life.

Any Questions ?
 (The Bible does provide the answers....)
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 12:43:48 PM »

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but the only question I can think of is a clear violation of forum rules. :)
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 12:44:53 PM »


Now a little known fact, is that in the Judgment process, a person's name can be taken out of the Book of Life......did you know that ?

The Bible has stated at least 3 times, that a person's name can be taken out of the Book of Life.

 That fact alone, destroys the idea of "Once Saved, Always Saved"


Wow, that is so interesting! Can you provide the scriptures where it says a person's name can be taken out of the Book of Life?
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 01:24:13 PM »

3AM - The question now is.....how to prepare yourself to pass God's Judgment Day ?

For one thing....what questions is God going to ask of a person, to be able to pass God's 'Investigative Judgment' ?

larry2 - The only question at judgment will be; "Is his name in the book of life." We have passed from death unto life and will never be at that judgment. The judgment you seem to be indicating is the judgment that starts at the house of God, and that is the judgment seat of Christ. That is presently going on as we walk with Christ, and he walks among the candlesticks judging the churches. Our reward, or loss of reward will be based upon that judgment (Revelation Chapters 2 & 3)

3AM - There is a preparation, needed to be done, by every person, who wants eternal life.

larry2 - To me it sounds as if I already have eternal life in Christ. 1 John 5:11  And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.  1 John 5:13  These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

I am told in John 6:37  "All that the Father giveth me (That's me) shall come to me (I did); and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." I sure hope Jesus didn't lie to me. I do know what God's work is, and that is that we believe on Him whom he hath sent. I've done that.

I am interested in what preparation you have made though to earn your eternal life. To me God said  in Ephesians 2:8-9  "For by grace are we saved through faith; and that not of ourselves: it is the gift of God:  9  Not of works, lest any man should boast." It appears we are reading the Bible differently. 

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2009, 08:52:19 AM »



Wow, that is so interesting! Can you provide the scriptures where it says a person's name can be taken out of the Book of Life?
Yes.

1.) Exodus 32:33   And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. 

2.) Revelation   3:5   He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 

 3:21   To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 

3.) Revelation  22:19   And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 10:07:35 AM »

Any argument based on solely the Old Testament and Revelations doesn't have a sane leg to stand on.

Most early church fathers even argued against including Revelations in the canon due to the way they foresaw people misinterpreting it.

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2009, 10:45:09 AM »

Any argument based on solely the Old Testament and Revelations doesn't have a sane leg to stand on.
Sorry, But I don't dismiss anything of what the Bible says, as being unimportant.

 I believe in what Jesus said:
4:4   But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. 


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Most early church fathers even argued against including Revelations in the canon due to the way they foresaw people misinterpreting it.
The early church fathers have no bearing on my beliefs.

 I can read and study the Bible for myself, and then make my own descisions, as God gave me the freedom of choice, and not to follow what other men may say, is right or wrong.

The Bible has proven the many times, religious leaders are wrong.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2009, 10:47:21 AM »

Any argument based on solely the Old Testament and Revelations doesn't have a sane leg to stand on.
Sorry, But I don't dismiss anything of what the Bible says, as being unimportant.

 I believe in what Jesus said:
4:4   But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. 


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Most early church fathers even argued against including Revelations in the canon due to the way they foresaw people misinterpreting it.
The early church fathers have no bearing on my beliefs.

 I can read and study the Bible for myself, and then make my own descisions, as God gave me the freedom of choice, and not to follow what other men may say, is right or wrong.

The Bible has proven the many times, religious leaders are wrong.

It's the early church fathers that decided what you are now reading in the Bible...  so they have a MAJOR bearing on your beliefs whether you like it or not.





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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2009, 11:02:45 AM »


It's the early church fathers that decided what you are now reading in the Bible...  so they have a MAJOR bearing on your beliefs whether you like it or not.
Well.....the early church fathers established Sunday worship services, which are not Biblical....just as an example of errors of the early church fathers.

By that I mean, that the Bible alone, is the sole basis for my beliefs.
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It's the early church fathers that decided what you are now reading in the Bible...  so they have a MAJOR bearing on your beliefs whether you like it or not.
Well.....the early church fathers established Sunday worship services, which are not Biblical....just as an example of errors of the early church fathers.

By that I mean, that the Bible alone, is the sole basis for my beliefs.

But they created the Bible.... not God.

So on one hand you say they are inerrant and in the other you say they made a mistake with Sunday worship..

I have to say that that is some pretty screwed up logic you believe there.


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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2009, 11:28:32 AM »



But they created the Bible.... not God.
And you think God has no control over what men do, when it concerns What HE wants done ?

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2009, 11:39:47 AM »

And you think God has no control over what men do, when it concerns What HE wants done?

He certainly does. The discrepancies lie where 'man' tells another 'man' what God wanted done. I have multiple versions of the Bible...I haven't noticed anything that would make the KJV more inspired than another...nor have I noticed any Bibles be 'less strict' where sin or living a life after Jesus Christ is concerned.

As far as 'worship services'...I worship every day, and gather with brethren several times a week. One could make the same argument than man is disobeying God by not working 6 days a week and resting on the 7th. America has a 5-day work week...shame on America.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2009, 12:15:34 PM »



But they created the Bible.... not God.
And you think God has no control over what men do, when it concerns What HE wants done ?



How do you know what he wants done?... if past history of God, as contained in the Old Testament, is a witness to the unchanging nature of God.. then the methods used to put the bible together are antithetical to his known behavior... thus one can logically extrapolate that the Bible is not what God wanted.. it is what man wanted.

And you fell right into their trap.


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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2009, 12:23:21 PM »

3AM -    1.)  Exodus 32:33   And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. 

larry2 - Using your reasoning, if you have ever committed one sin against God you are erased. And then we can add Hebrews 10:26 to that as one that may have sinned willfully against God, and there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

This sounds like the certain ruler in Luke 18:21 when referring to commandments, he said "All these have I kept from my youth up." Dear 3AM, when you think you have done all, there always remains something lacking. Luke 19:22. "Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me." This is the extent to what loving your neighbor as yourself goes. Jesus gave all for us, and if you are determined to follow the greatest commandments, you must do the same.

You may ask what sin? This sounds like the rich young man. Ever lied even once; that wasn't accidental. Ever entertained a bad thought; accident? You once sped to beat a red light; that certainly was obvious rebellion of the laws of the land.

I'm sure thankful for God's grace that has kept me in the Lamb's book of life, and will in no wise take me out. Titus 3:5  Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
 
God bless you in Jesus' name - larry2
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2009, 12:28:23 PM »

I have multiple versions of the Bible...I haven't noticed anything that would make the KJV more inspired than another...nor have I noticed any Bibles be 'less strict' where sin or living a life after Jesus Christ is concerned.
It is the prophecies, that tells the difference from the false Bibles and the true Bible.......
2 Peter   1:19   We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 
  1:20   Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 
  1:21   For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.


Prophecy, is what proves the Bible.


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As far as 'worship services'...I worship every day, and gather with brethren several times a week. One could make the same argument than man is disobeying God by not working 6 days a week and resting on the 7th. America has a 5-day work week...shame on America.
Yes, the Bible say that work is to be done 6 days a week, and rest on the 7th day.
BUT, that desicion is made on a individual basis, by freedom of choice.

And, the God leaves no one in doubt, as to which day, is the 7th day of the week.
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