Hey Amo, Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. 21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. 22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. 24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. 25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Your perception of what the New Heavens and New Earth are composed of doesn’t tally with the way Isaiah presented them. The prophet included in Is. 65:17-25, as part of the NHNE experience, the death of both sinners and righteous people, the birth of offspring, prayers to the Father, harvesting crops, and building houses. All of which are not done in the eternal state, but are realities today under the ages of the New Covenant.
There is no new heavens and new earth. We still remember and live upon the same earth the Jews of Isaiah’s day lived upon. The existing Jerusalem was not created by God and is not in a state of continual rejoicing. There is still much weeping and crying and death in Jerusalem and the world. Neither the Jews or anyone else are living lives as long as those of trees, which if I am not mistaken can be thousands of years. Israel itself did not even exist again until the mid 1900’s and the people within it are in a constant state of threat or war from their enemies all around them. Wolves and lambs don’t feed together, lions don’t eat straw, and people and animals all still hurt and destroy each other. Countless peoples including the Jews have built homes and planted and had their homes and vineyards taken from them or destroyed since the time of Christ. Not to mention being wrongly imprisoned, tortured, cut off from societies, enslaved, murdered, burned at the stake, and on and on since the time of Christ. Millions of Christians included.
And you want everyone to believe the above prophecy is in relation to the establishment of the new covenant in Christ Jesus. Jerusalem itself was destroyed by the Romans after Christ established the new covenant in His blood. Suffering horribly during the seizure with starvation even to the point of mothers eating their children, and murdering each other for what food there was. Being slaughtered afterward by the Roman armies in the destruction of their city and temple. To suggest that all such is part of the vision of Isaiah above concerning the new covenant era, is asinine. Why would you declare such for this new covenant era when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ told us to expect the following, and was proved right throughout history since then. Mt 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Do Isaiah and Christ actually so contradict each others testimony concerning this new covenant era, or is what you have chosen to believe wrong?
Hebrews 12:26 -27 spoke specifically of when those old heavens and the earth were going to be shaken and removed, and it was going to be that generation who would experience this (“...but NOW hath He promised...”). God never said He was going to annihilate the heavens and the planet earth at that time; only that He was going to CHANGE them (“...as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed...Heb. 1:12).Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Why would you assume the above is only addressing things being shaken in a spiritual sense, and not a literal one as well, seeing that the verse itself refers to the voice of God literally shaking the earth in the past. The scriptures also refer to His voice doing so again in the future when this entire world will be destroyed at His presence, and eventually by fire I might add.Isa 2:12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. 12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. 13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
Isa 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. 18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited. 23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
Eze 38:18And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.[/b 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Nah 1:2God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies. 3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet. 4 He rebuketh the sea, and maketh it dry, and drieth up all the rivers: Bashan languisheth, and Carmel, and the flower of Lebanon languisheth. 5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. 6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him. 7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him. 8 But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies.
Mt 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
It is God’s prerogative to change the order of things and His own law, which He did along with the establishment of Christ’s high priesthood (Heb. 7:12) and by giving the promise of the Holy Spirit to tabernacle within each of His saints. This is the fulfillment of entering into the true Sabbath rest, as Hebrews 4:3 taught. Believing is a sign that we have “ceased from our own works, as God did from His.” (Heb. 4:10).
Truth and error mixed together as in the above expressed opinion, equals error alone. Yes it is God’s prerogative to change His law, and or abolish His sabbath as He wishes. The scriptures however do not teach anywhere that He has done so, but through the avenue of fulfilling or completing the meaning and or purpose of the same. Which changes the New Testament does address and define. Such as those changes you have referred to in the above referring to the book of Hebrews.
All the laws related to the literal temple and sacrifices are done away through fulfillment. Jesus Christ saving humanity in and though the blood of the true LAMB OF GOD, Himself, ended the need for all animal sacrifices, and a literal temple though which to officiate such. They are no more according to the will of God. The temple of God is now within the individual believer, and the corporate body of believers in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, His church, as the New Testament scriptures plainly state. Thus do we know that the ceremonial laws pertaining to the literal temple of literal Israel are no longer to be kept, though many still have applicable spiritual meaning and lessons. The literal theocratical nation of Israel is no more, having been replaced with all who are in Christ Jesus the founder of both literal Israel of the old covenant and spiritual Israel of the new covenant. The civil laws which applied to the literal theocratical nation of Israel are no more as the nation itself is no more. Paul and the apostles addressed many of the changes due to this reality.
The ten commandments of God however, are held up as a continuing standard until the last book and chapter of the New Testament, which book addresses the history of this world up until its last moments. Anyone therefore who attempts to change them or declares that they have been changed, assumes a prerogative of God alone, and is therefore unquestionably anti-christ. They are declaring and attempting to establish that which our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ specifically stated He did not come to do. Mt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
For Jesus to say that not one jot or tittle of the law would pass away until all was fulfilled, this speaks of His ability to preserve His written words for all generations to read and study. It does not necessarily mean that the way the weekly Sabbath is observed has not changed under the New Covenant.
If that was all He said, then perhaps the particular verses you are referring to could be taken as such. This would however, not detract from other NT scriptures which admonish us to keep the commandments, as already stated up to the last book and chapter of scripture. Nevertheless, that is not all He said in the scriptures you referenced. Immediately after expressing what you referenced, He said, “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
Which you apparently choose to ignore, so that you can believe and testify as you do. As is obvious, this does not change the testimony of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ concerning the fact that He did not come to change any of God’s (His) commandments, but rather to establish them as His apostle Paul declared(Rom 3:20-21, 8:1-11, 1 Cor 7:17-20). Our Lord who established this new covenant declared that during it, those who break the commandments and teach others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, and those who seek to keep them and teach them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Here we are to this very day, proclaiming one or the other just as our Lord predicted above.
God’s sabbath was established at creation before there was ever a need for anything like an old and new covenant, in a perfect world. After the fall and eventual destruction of the former world because of rampant evil, God chose a man of demonstrable faith of whom He declared, “Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.”
, to become the father of a nation of that same faith to represent Him in this world. To which nation He entrusted the observance if His sacred sabbath and commandments which He spoke to the nation with His own voice and wrote with His own finger. Declaring a blessing upon them if they would keep His sabbath and commandments, and even declaring a blessing upon all who would keep His sabbath during this same old covenant period. Nevertheless, they continually fell into apostasy and disregarded both, even eventually rejecting and crucifying their own Lord and Savior who had given them the sabbath and commandments. Which Lord and Savior also kept the commandments of God and observed His sabbath perfectly when here as one of us as our example, teaching all His followers to do the same. After which His apostles also taught the same and pointed all that would be saved to the life, teachings, and death of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ unto salvation. Which commandments and sabbath have been kept and taught by authentic Christianity throughout history until now. Finally biblical prophecy points to the observance of God’s sabbath even in the new heaven and new earth. This is the testimony of scripture, all of which you are now here to deny in your above arguments as our Lord Jesus Christ predicted. So be it.
Under OT law for the Sabbath, the gates of Jerusalem were shut for the Sabbath day. But in the New Jerusalem which we occupy now, as part of the blessing of the New Covenant, the gates of THIS New Jerusalem city are NEVER SHUT (Rev.21:25). Worship does not cease in this New Jerusalem city, because our Sabbath rest in Christ is a continual state for us...not merely reserved for the one symbolic 7th day of the week alone that prefigured Christ’s work on our behalf.
So yes, in the true sense of the Sabbath, I do worship on Saturday...and also Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday as well.
More of the same deception you peddle. There is nothing wrong with applying and teaching the lessons there are regarding spiritual realities for the present spiritual kingdom of God established in Christ for this new covenant era. Your deception is revealed in teaching that these spiritual realities is all there is or will be, and denying the literal realities of what the church of Christ has, is, and will continue to suffer in this present fallen world. Spiritualizing away the literal kingdom of God which will be established when Christ returns, and denying the testimony of Christ, the prophets, and the apostles concerning both of the same.
We are not now living in the New Jerusalem depicted in Rev 21:25 now, as is most obvious for all seeking truth without itching ears or depicting what they wish to be, rather than what the scriptures plainly state. Nor is there any scripture anywhere which teaches that entering Christ’s rest means no more seventh day sabbath. To the contrary, its observance is a testimony in action that God alone sanctifies the believer, gives them rest, and is still in complete control regardless of present appearance. He created and sustains this world, and the observance of His sabbath is a sign that those who keep it understand their proper relation to Him, and reliance upon Him.
The sabbath does not just prefigure Christ’s work on our behalf concerning salvation, though it does include this. The sabbath is a rest and celebration of God’s creative power first in the creation of us and our world, and then necessarily in our creation as new creatures in Christ Jesus. Ignoring the day indicates ignoring the same, not establishing it. Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day,to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
God created and sustains us to this day. The salvation from sin provided by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who Himself declared Himself Lord of the sabbath, does not change this in any way shape or form. To the contrary, our creation as new creatures in Christ Jesus adds emphasis and purpose to the observance of God’s sabbath which it did not have before the fall. Exo 31:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. 18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
The sabbath was given to Israel as a sign that God is the one who sanctifies them, just as the day is sanctified because He who alone can sanctify anything did so at creation. This is so important for humanity and especially God’s own to understand, that God commanded the death of all who would deny this truth by breaking the sabbath commandment. Just as all who reject God’s sanctification in and through our Lord Jesus Christ will perish in the lake of fire in the end. These truths have not been changed since the first coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, just as the command to observe God’s sabbath has not changed but to the contrary, has taken on greater significance since that time. Which is exactly why the evil one has so viciously attacked this particular commandment and day. It represents the God he despises, and the salvation He has provided for those whom the evil one himself has deceived and wishes to take down with him. Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 19 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Heed the warning of the above three angels giving the message of the everlasting gospel. Worship your Creator and keep the commandments of God by the faith of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Including of course the very commandment given to commemorate the creation of this world and ourselves by Him, our salvation as creatures created in Christ Jesus, and sanctified by the word of God alone as His sabbath also is a sign of. Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Choose to be sanctified through the truth of Christ’s words, who is the Lord of the sabbath.