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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #35 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 14:22:56 »
https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-usa/2017/03/30/top-vatican-official-urges-u-s-bishops-lobby-trumps-stance-climate-weapons-migrants/

Top Vatican official urges U.S. bishops to lobby against Trump’s stance on climate, weapons, and migrants

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ROME- A top Vatican official is urging the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to lobby in Washington against many of the latest moves by the administration of Donald Trump, from the so-called temporary ban on accepting new refugees to the defense budget increase.
Talking specifically about climate change, Cardinal Peter Turkson, of Ghana, said Thursday that if Trump didn’t listen to “dissenting voices”-including those of the Catholic hierarchy - and reconsider his position on this matter, the United States risks being supplanted by China as the leader in environmental protection.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #36 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 14:24:28 »
https://www.popsugar.com/news/Vatican-Calls-Out-Trump-Pulling-Out-Paris-Agreement-43596858

Vatican Says Relying on Fossil Fuels Is as Ridiculous as Believing Earth Is Flat

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President Donald Trump has decided to screw the planet and rescind America's ratification of the Paris Agreement. This is bad for everyone. Scientists and activists are irate, but the Vatican is by far the most powerful opponent of Trump's decision (the pope does lead roughly a billion people, after all). Reuters reports that the head of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, had some strong words for the president (preceding his official announcement that he would actually withdraw).

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #37 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 14:26:25 »
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2017/06/02/protecting-creation-not-optional-vatican-says-day-after-trump-pulls-out-paris

Protecting creation is not optional, Vatican says, day after Trump pulls out of Paris Agreement

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Christians and Muslims, believers in one God, have an obligation to safeguard the world God created, said the Vatican's annual message to Muslims for the end of Ramadan.

"Our vocation to be guardians of God's handiwork is not optional, nor is it tangential to our religious commitment as Christians and Muslims: It is an essential part of it," said Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran and Bishop Miguel Angel Ayuso Guixot, respectively president and secretary of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #38 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 14:28:04 »
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2017/06/02/american_bishops_decry_trumps_decision_on_climate_change/1316436

American bishops decry Trump's decision on climate change


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(Vatican Radio) The Bishops of the United States have decried President Donald Trump’s decision to pull out of the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement saying his decision“not to honor the U.S. commitment” to the Paris climate deal is “deeply troubling.”  

Bishop Cantu continued saying that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Pope Francis and “the entire Catholic Church have consistently upheld the Paris Agreement as an important international mechanism to promote environmental stewardship and encourage climate change mitigation.”


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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #39 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 14:46:48 »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/29/obama-will-bypass-senate-ratify-paris-climate-acco/

White House defends Obama evading Senate on Paris climate deal

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The White House on Monday defended President Obama’s decision to enter into the Paris climate accord without Senate ratification but stopped short of confirming a Chinese report that he will do so this week during his trip to China.
Still, it would surprise no one if Mr. Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping were to announce the ratification of the sweeping climate change agreement before the Sunday opening of the Group of 20 summit in Hangzhou, Zhejiang.


http://www.heritage.org/environment/report/obamas-plan-avoid-senate-review-the-paris-protocol

Obama’s Plan to Avoid Senate Review of the Paris Protocol

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The Obama Administration is planning an end run around the U.S. Senate in regard to a major international climate change agreement—the Paris Protocol—that will be negotiated between November 30 and December 11 at the 21st annual session of the Conference of Parties (COP 21) of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). The Administration’s plans to avoid Senate scrutiny of the protocol should come as no surprise. During a March 31, 2015, press briefing, White House spokesman Josh Earnest was asked whether Congress has the right to approve the protocol:


This is the Church of Rome. Using one man to bypass Constitutional government for and by the people, against the will of the people, and then attacking the man responsible for pulling us out of what we didn't want in the first place at the request of the people. Now the Bishops of Rome and other papal cronies and elitists will go after Trump and all to establish what they wish regardless of the will of the people. Welcome to the ever increasing world and politics of BABYLON THE GREAT. She has entrenched herself within our nation and government, we haven't seen anything yet. Our nose dive will only continue as all is sacrificed for her global agenda. We must decrease, that she may increase.
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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #40 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 19:13:00 »
https://www.the-highway.com/eu_Bennett.html

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The Vatican has been the most powerful institution in Europe, and although its influence declined at the time of the Reformation it has made a significant recovery in the past two centuries. The Protestant nations of Europe that were religiously, politically and economically freed from a totalitarian Roman Church seem now to be blindly returning to her yoke.

The Vatican Bank’s tax exempt status in Italy has made it possible for her to manipulate many of the largest multi-national corporations This influence is however as nothing when compared with her power in Europe and in the world of politics and religion. A Jesuit priest writing in ‘Inside the Vatican’ stated, “Despite the importance of the papacy for the Catholic church and its prominent role in international affairs, its internal workings are little known to Catholics, to world leaders, or to the world at large.”*

This lack of knowledge is particularly evident when it comes to the role the Vatican is playing in the making of the EU. If the Protestant nations of Europe are to remain free, true believers on both sides of the Atlantic must address the issue of Rome and the EU and take it to our God in prayer. The alternative may well prove to be the return of the Inquisition.

It is the authors’ desire that this study of one of the most powerful institutions in the world today be carefully examined. Our purpose is to sound the alarm and to stimulate others to do so too.

* Inside the Vatican: The Politics and Organization of the Catholic Church, by Thomas J. Reese, Harvard University Press, 1996, 4

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #41 on: Sat Jun 03, 2017 - 19:43:00 »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/2/pelosi-trump-dishonoring-god-global-warming/

Pelosi says Trump ‘dishonoring’ God in global warming decision

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Rep. Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that President Trump was “dishonoring” God and questioned whether his grandchildren will even be able to breathe air after his announcement a day earlier that he would withdraw from the Paris climate accord.

Mrs. Pelosi said the president’s speech contained “false” justifications, and said he’s turned his back on everyone from children to the religious community — including Pope Francis, who just last week gave Mr. Trump a copy of his encyclical urging action on global warming.


https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/02/pelosi-trump-dishonoring-god-by-withdrawing-from-paris-agreement/

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Pelosi also said that Trump dishonored God and the religious community. This includes Pope Francis, who gave Trump a copy of his encyclical on environmental preservation last Wednesday.

“The Bible tells us that to minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship,” Pelosi said. “To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us, and that is just what we’re doing by walking away from the accord.”

Pelosi also compared Trump to racist segregationists during the civil rights era, said his decision on the withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement is more reason for him to release his tax returns, said the U.S. has isolated itself from the world, and noted that we joined only Syria in rejecting the Paris agreement.

Pelosi has accused Republicans of turning their backs on God before, using the same line she had used in her weekly address. After Trump’s inauguration, Pelosi said that Republicans “pray in church on Sunday, and then prey on people the rest of the week.”

“And while we’re [the Democrats] doing the Lord’s work by ministering to the needs of God’s creation, [Republicans] are ignoring those needs, which is to dishonor the God who made them.”


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/pelosi-says-withdrawing-paris-climate-change-deal-dishonors-god

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Here is an excerpt from Pelosi’s briefing:

And we have a moral responsibility in addition to our national security, our economy and the good health of our children. We have a moral responsibility.     We must leave future generations with a healthy, sustainable planet. Faith leaders—starting with His Holiness, Pope Francis—to the Evangelical community have urged as to be responsible stewards of the beauty of God’s creation. They believe, as do I, that this planet is God’s creation and we have a moral responsibility to be good stewards of it. When we worked with the Evangelical community to put together our climate legislation ten years ago, nine years ago--we worked on it for awhile--they had their literature which said that we had a moral responsibility to be good stewards of God’s creation, and, in doing so, we must pay special attention to the needs of the poor. They saw it as an environmental justice issue as well, the Evangelical community.

When the pope went to the White House he talked about the dangers of air pollution, when he was here. And just last week, the pope met with President Trump and gave him a copy of his encyclical, Laudate Si, which made the case for strong, urgent action to halt the climate crisis. The pope wrote: ‘The climate is a common good belonging to all and meant for all.’

The Bible tells us that to minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us and that is just what we are doing by walking away from this accord.



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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #42 on: Fri Jun 09, 2017 - 16:56:34 »
Jesuit governor Jerry Brown signs climate agreement with China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brown

Brown was a member of the California Cadet Corps at St. Ignatius High School, where he graduated in 1955.[6][7] In 1955, Brown entered Santa Clara University for a year, and left to attend Sacred Heart Novitiate, a Jesuit novice house, intent on becoming a Catholic priest.[8] Brown left the novitiate after three years,[9] enrolling at the University of California, Berkeley in 1960, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Classics in 1961. Brown went on to Yale Law School and graduated with a Bachelor of Laws in 1964.[3] After law school, Brown worked as a law clerk for California Supreme Court Justice Mathew Tobriner.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/12/jerry-brown-latin-scholar-and-one-time-almost-priest/282426/

Brown went on to discuss various budget battles fought in California, including cuts to university funding, increases in taxes on the wealthy, and investments like the long-suffering high-speed railway that's planned between San Francisco to Los Angeles. His most captivating comments were about the future of education in his state, because he described how his views grew out of his personal experience—in training to become a priest.
His religious schooling seemed to make Brown a big fan of "traditional" educational experiences. "Human contact is very important. I went to Jesuit schools: Santa Clara for a year, St. Ignatius for four years. And I went into the Jesuit order, not because of reading a book, but because of the experience, the relationship with all the different teachers I encountered. Something that I’d always heard about in Jesuit schools is the ratio studiorum, which is the methodology of Jesuit education," he said.

http://johnnycirucci.com/a-jesuit-back-in-the-governors-mansion/

What You Get When You Put A Jesuit Back In The Governor’s Mansion

The state of California is a living example of the Jesuit end-game.
It has the largest population of Roman Catholic Hispanic illegal immigrants, welcomed in endless streams of higher and higher promises of benefits courtesy of the American taxpayer with current Governor Jerry Brown now making it even easier for illegals to receive taxpayer-funded healthcare.

http://secretsofthefed.com/globalist-and-jesuit-governor-of-california-removes-exemptions-and-forces-children-to-take-vaccines/

Jerry Brown has always been a spider working among the shadows.  As Governor of California back in the late 70’s and early 80’s, he was a pioneer in the environmental movement.  And 30 years later, just as the state experiences its worst drought in centuries, is playing the tune of the Pope’s new push for climate change as the number one issue affecting the world today.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/07/11/jerry-brown-becomes-climate-change-expert-for-pope-francis/

https://tabublog.com/2015/11/29/jesuit-trained-governor-brown-running-climate-change-conference-in-paris/

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/jerrybrown.html

http://www.calbuzz.com/2010/02/god-man-jerry-browns-ignatian-indifference/

The Popes puppets continue to carry out his will for our country.


http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/336537-california-signs-deal-with-china-to-combat-climate-change

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/06/california-signs-its-own-climate-accord-with-china/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/asia/xi-jinping-china-jerry-brown-california-climate.html?_r=0

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #43 on: Sat Jun 10, 2017 - 10:07:56 »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11143702/Michael-Bloomberg-knighted-by-the-Queen-just-dont-call-him-Sir-Mike.html

Michael Bloomberg knighted by the Queen - just don't call him Sir Mike

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11523895/Michael-Bloomberg-is-made-an-honourary-knight-by-the-Queen.html

Michael Bloomberg is made an honorary knight by the Queen

Papal puppet Michael Bloomberg knighted by the queen, basically a Knight of Malta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta

All emphasis in the following quotes mine.

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Widely considered a sovereign ubject of international law, the order maintains diplomatic relations with 106 states. It has United Nations permanent observer status,[9] enters into treaties, and issues its own passports, coins, and postage stamps. Its two headquarters buildings in Rome enjoy extraterritoriality, similar to embassies, and it maintains embassies in other countries. The three principal officers are counted as citizens. Though its sovereignty is disputed by some legal scholars, it is often given as the only remaining example of a sovereign entity which entirely lacks territory.

In several countries, including France, Germany and Ireland, local associations of the order are important providers of medical emergency services and training. Its annual budget is on the order of 200 million Euros, largely funded by European governments, the U.N., and the European Union.

The Order was governed by its Grand Master, the Prince of Rhodes, and its Council. From its beginning, independence from other nations granted by pontifical charter and the universally recognised right to maintain and deploy armed forces constituted grounds for the international sovereignty of the Order, which minted its own coins and maintained diplomatic relations with other States. The senior positions of the Order were given to representatives of different Langues.


The Knights of Malta are a Roman Catholic international globalist organization, which no doubt ends up putting its members interests at odds with the will of the people in their various nations. Thereby subjecting the citizens of said nations, to manipulation and servitude to a foreign entity. Not to mention the funneling of tax payers money toward such goals as well. Just another way the Church of Rome manipulates politics on a global scale. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_of_Malta

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This is a list of the heads of state of Malta, from the independence of Malta in 1964 to the present day.

From 1964 to 1974 the head of state under the Malta Independence Act 1964 was the Queen of Malta, Elizabeth II, who was also the Monarch of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms. The Queen was represented in Malta by a Governor-General. Malta became a republic under the Constitution of 1974 and the Monarch and Governor-General were replaced by a ceremonial President.


All those Knighted by the Queen of England are basically Knights of Malta, or at least intricately connected to this Roman Catholic globalist institution.

http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-bloomberg-paris-agreement-coalition-2017-6

Billionaire Michael Bloomberg is launching a coalition to defy Trump and uphold the Paris Agreement

Surprise, surprise, a papal puppet is the organizer of the coalition to defy Trump and uphold the Paris Agreement. Never mind the will of the people, the will of the Pope and his globalist minions must be obeyed.

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/68/emoluments-clause

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No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
ARTICLE I, SECTION 9, CLAUSE 8

Article VI of the Articles of Confederation was the source of the Constitution's prohibition on federal titles of nobility and the so-called Emoluments Clause. The clause sought to shield the republican character of the United States against corrupting foreign influences.

The prohibition on federal titles of nobility—reinforced by the corresponding prohibition on state titles of nobility in Article I, Section 10, and more generally by the republican Guarantee Clause in Article IV, Section 4—was designed to underpin the republican character of the American government. In the ample sense James Madison gave the term in The Federalist No. 39, a republic was "a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during good behavior.”

Republicanism so understood was the ground of the constitutional edifice. The prohibition on titles of nobility buttressed the structure by precluding the possibility of an aristocracy, whether hereditary or personal, whose members would inevitably assert a right to occupy the leading positions in the state.


https://thelastbastille.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/the-missing-13th-titles-of-nobility-amendment/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/08/26/constitution-government-officials-privileges-column/2696945/

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #44 on: Sun Jun 11, 2017 - 13:56:24 »
https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2016/10/07/new-un-secretary-general-become-key-papal-ally/

The article the following quotes are taken from, may be viewed at the above internet site. All Emphasis in the following quotes is mine.

New UN Secretary General could become key papal ally


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ROME- Former Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Guterres is set to become the next United Nations secretary-general, and as a Catholic Socialist with a deep concern for refugees and global justice generally, he could become a key ally of Pope Francis..................

In his vision statement in applying for the position of secretary general, Guterres wrote of the challenges facing the world in terms of rising inequality, terrorism and organized crime, climate change and the proliferation of armed actors internationally.


All are issues about which Francis has often spoken, even producing a teaching document on the environment...........................

At the end of their private audience, Guterres said: “The Catholic Church has always been a very important voice in the defense of refugees and migrants. A voice of tolerance, of respect to diversity in an indifferent world, if not hostile, to everything that’s foreign.”

At the time, Guterres also said that in Europe, as in many developing countries, there’s an eruption of xenophobia. “Pope Francis not only indicates what must be the just doctrine for the Christian community, but he’s a personal witness,” he said, before praising the pontiff’s Evangelii Gaudium exhortation and his visit to the Italian island of Lampedusa.

Speaking to Vatican Radio after the audience, Guterres also spoke about his previous visit to the Vatican, when he met with Benedict XVI. Then too, the former prime minister said, they had agreed on their positions on refugees...........................


His country’s opposition accuses him of being key in the victory of the “no” vote on a 1998 referendum on abortion, despite being a member of the Socialist Party. He allowed for the voting to take place, but openly opposed abortion citing his personal convictions...............................

Rapport between the Vatican and the United Nations, where the Holy See has an observer position, has always been good. Ban, the outgoing secretary general, visited Francis several times, the last time being this week, when the two leaders kicked-started a conference promoting sports at the service of the common good.

The two also worked together to guarantee the success of the Paris climate summit last year.

More papal minions aiding the Roman Catholic church in their socialistic global agenda. Now  the Pope will enjoy even more influence at the UN, while his minions here in this country defy Trump and seek to establish their global socialism here in our home. Even now they plot and plan to establish the Paris Accord with or without Trump or the federal government. No telling how many more billions this global climate agenda will cost us, on top of the billions the papacy already receives from our government every year.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #45 on: Sun Jun 11, 2017 - 20:28:19 »
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/04/29/un-looks-to-religions-for-moral-leadership-on-climate-change/

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon speaks at a Vatican-sponsored workshop on environmental issues

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Dealing with climate change will take more than just global policies and agreements, it will also take a unified stance from the world’s religions, the secretary-general of the United Nations (UN) said at the Vatican.

o have development without destruction and “to transform our economies, however, we must first transform our thinking, and our values. In this, the world’s religions can provide valuable leadership,” UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told religious leaders, scientists and scholars.

“If ever there were an issue that requires unity of purpose” among governments, private businesses, civil society and faith-based groups, “it is climate change,” he said, giving the opening address at a Vatican-sponsored workshop on Tuesday.


http://bahaiteachings.org/bahai-call-religion-science-unite

The Baha’i Call for Religion and Science to Unite

http://www.oikoumene.org/en/resources/documents/wcc-programmes/justice-diakonia-and-responsibility-for-creation/climate-change-water/religious-traditions-call-to-climate-action

World Council of Churches

Religious Traditions Call To Climate Action


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/religions-world-unite-call-paris-agreement-patrick-crawford

Religions of the World Unite in Call for Paris Agreement:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/murali-balaji/a-hindu-call-to-action-in_b_8631290.html

A Hindu Call to Action in Fighting Climate Change

https://news.iskcon.org/parliament-of-world-religions-on-climate-change,6191/

Parliament of World Religions on Climate Change

http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/pope-francis-speaks-before-un-why-not-a-un-for-religions

We Need a United Nations of World Religions

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If such an alliance can be used to unite independent states, could a similar model work for world religions? This was an idea proposed last year by former Israeli president Shimon Peres. He suggested that an organization called "the United Religions" could bring together leaders from various worldwide religions with the goal of promoting interfaith peace and understanding. In Peres' eyes, Pope Francis himself would head up this "UN for religions" because he is universally respected and could spearhead efforts to broker peace in the Middle East. Peres even pitched the idea to the pontiff when the two men met last September.


I guess world religions are pretty much already following the Pope's lead.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #46 on: Sat Jun 17, 2017 - 11:26:06 »
The following quote from the link provided is a prime example of how the Roman Catholic church plays both sides of the political isle in our nation, influencing their politicians within the same to reflect this pattern. This becomes increasingly significant as the number of Catholic politicians seems to continually be on the rise. Both parties are increasingly dealing with their interference, and systematically being manipulated and controlled by it. Regardless of which party is in control or majority, the papacy works through their many politicians on both sides of the isle within our government to neutralize threats to their own agenda, and bolster all that is in accordance or beneficial to the same. The effect is basically a reestablishment of Roman Catholic manipulation of national politics, experienced by the world during what is now referred to as the dark ages. This same process is being carried out in as many nations as possible toward establishing the globalist agenda of the papacy, world domination.   

https://wwrn.org/articles/46943/

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Against this backdrop, Catholic bishops of the United States will gather in Indianapolis on June 14-15 for their annual spring meeting, where, like millions of ordinary Americans, they will discuss the burning political issues of the day and consider what they can contribute to the conversation. Some of the issues on the agenda—immigration and health care specifically—have already caused a great deal of tension between the White House and Catholic leaders, while others, such as religious freedom, present an opportunity for collaboration.

In the six months of Mr. Trump’s presidency, the body representing the nation’s more than 400 bishops has repeatedly expressed disappointment with several of his priorities. Through statements and interviews, Catholic bishops have cheered court decisions blocking Mr. Trump’s self-described travel ban targeting majority-Muslim nations, condemned his plan to erect a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and challenged his support for repealing Obamacare.

More recently, bishops called his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord “deeply troubling” and expressed concern over how the president’s proposed budget may impact the social safety net.
On the other hand, bishops are also discerning where they might share common ground with Mr. Trump, with the church’s views on religious liberty, anti-Christian persecution and abortion seeming to align with the president’s. In those areas, there have already been signs that church leaders are willing to work with the White House.

Last month, Cardinal Donald Wuerl and Cardinal Daniel DiNardo were on hand for a Rose Garden signing ceremony of an executive order that Mr. Trump said will bolster religious liberty in the United States. (In addition to ordering the I.R.S. not to investigate churches that engage in partisan politics, it also directs the Department of Health and Human Services to devise regulations that could allow employers with objections to providing insurance coverage for contraception to opt out of Obama-era laws.) During their Indianapolis meeting, bishops will consider making permanent an ad hoc religious liberty committee. That would mean initiatives meant to promote religious freedom, such as the Fortnight for Freedom, which started as a protest against Obama-era health care regulations, could become permanent.

On the abortion front, some bishops have praised decisions by the Trump administration to reinstate a rule that prevents federal dollars from funding abortions overseas and to support efforts to allow states to defund Planned Parenthood clinics.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #47 on: Sat Jun 17, 2017 - 15:52:54 »
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/the-problem-of-the-pope-and-socialism/

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Recently, Pope Francis released a statement to members of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. The statement, broadly, was about work in society, and how social bonds are incredibly important. At the end of it, however, the Pope levied a harsh attack at what he referred to as libertarian individualism. This, in turn, has been met with harsh criticism by both Reason and Breitbart. This is the latest in a string of statements that has led to one disheartening conclusion, the Pope has two ideologies. Catholicism and Socialism……………………………………….

To be frank, I am a Protestant. Despite this, I had high hopes for Pope Francis. I was encouraged by his apparent rejection of Papal decadence and a shift in focus to charity and aiding the poor. I was also heartened by his more socially tolerant statements.

This is why my disappointment is all the greater. The Pope has rejected freedom and proven methods of bettering society. He has instead chosen a failed ideology that has been used to oppress our Christian brothers and sisters all over the world.

That stings.




http://www.aim.org/aim-column/pope-lays-out-global-marxist-agenda/

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Socialist Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is ecstatic over the pope’s address to Congress. In a message to his supporters, titled, “Why we must listen to Pope Francis,” he was particularly pleased with the fact that in his address to Congress, “Pope Francis spoke of Dorothy Day, who was a tireless advocate for the impoverished and working people in America. I think it was extraordinary that he cited her as one of the most important people in recent American history.” Day was a Marxist apologist for socialism and communist regimes. We covered this territory in my column, “With Pope’s Help, U.N. Bypasses Congress on Global Socialism.”



http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/05/24/author-pope-socialist-opponent-trump/


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“This Pope is actually more interested in saving the planet than saving souls. He’s turned the Vatican into, almost, an annex of Greenpeace and the Sierra Club. He’s also been a great advocate for La Raza style open borders and, of course, he’s a strong voice for the global left in terms of promoting socialism.”



http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=288


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Purpose of Vatican’s Social Doctrine

The purpose of the Vatican’s social doctrine is officially stated, “With her social doctrine, the Church aims ‘at helping man on the path of salvation.’ This is her primary and sole purpose.”[3] Thus the Vatican appears to be clear-cut in defining the intent of its social doctrine. It focuses on good social works that people do. It assumes that these social deeds proclaim “God and his mystery of salvation in Christ.” However, salvation in Christ is totally separate from human deeds, as it is exclusively by the power of His name. As the Apostle Peter proclaimed, “neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). Likewise the Apostle Paul proclaimed, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). Every converted sinner is a sinner saved by grace alone. The grace that saves them is the free undeserved favor of God. The Lord God saves sinners, not through doing social good deeds, but through faith alone in the Lord Christ Jesus alone. Both grace and believing faith in Jesus Christ alone are gifts of God. This true Gospel is given to mankind by divine revelation in Scripture. It stands in total contrast to the official dogma of the Vatican that “The Church’s social doctrine ‘is itself a valid instrument of evangelization.’” Rome’s latest scheme to evangelize starts as always with the attempt to replace the true Gospel with its counterfeit gospel. In an age when Marxism, statism, and socialism are on the rise, the Roman Catholic Church’s social doctrine, which is socialist to the core, has been added to its false gospel. Thus once again the Roman Catholic Church-State is able to blend itself in with the prevalent trends in the society it wishes to draw into itself. 



http://bereanbeacon.org/new-blog/2015/11/28/the-roman-catholic-socialist-agenda


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Following biblical principles regarding how we live and provide for our families and ourselves brings stability and well-being into the societies in which we live.  At the present time, socialism is on the rise and the Catholic Church is helping to advance it with her socialistic agenda.  The attack on the United States by the Catholic Church and far left political secular interests is moving the United States by increments to accept socialism, a form of civil government which is totally contrary to the U.S. Constitution.

The Papacy’s socialist agenda can be documented from the official Catholic information that is publicly available.  It is time to sound the alarm.  Our article provides an outline of a few of the major elements of the Catholic working agenda, which is monumental and intricate.  I ask that you study the article below forward it to others.  I request also, if possible, that you post it on your Website.


https://spectator.org/pope-franciss-communist-mentor/


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After Pope Francis early in his papacy decried capitalism as “trickle-down economics” — a polemical phrase coined by the left during the Reagan years that Francis frequently borrows — radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh commented, “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the Pope.” Talk show host Michael Savage called him “Lenin’s pope.” Pope Francis took such comments as a compliment. “I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended,” he told the Italian press.

Pope Francis grew up in socialist Argentina, an experience that left a deep impression on his thinking. He told the Latin American journalists Javier Camara and Sebastian Pfaffen that as a young man he “read books of the Communist Party that my boss in the laboratory gave me” and that “there was a period where I would wait anxiously for the newspaper La Vanguardia, which was not allowed to be sold with the other newspapers and was brought to us by the socialist militants.”

The “boss” to whom Pope Francis referred is Esther Ballestrino de Careaga. He has described her as a “Paraguayan woman” and a “fervent communist.” He considers her one of his most important mentors. “I owe a huge amount to that great woman,” he has said, saying that she “taught me so much about politics.” (He worked for her as an assistant at Hickethier-Bachmann Laboratory in Buenos Aires.)


https://onepeterfive.com/pope-communists-think-like-christians/


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“It it has been said many times and my response has always been that, if anything, it is the communists who think like Christians. Christ spoke of a society where the poor, the weak and the marginalized have the right to decide. Not demagogues, not Barabbas, but the people, the poor, whether they have faith in a transcendent God or not. It is they who must help to achieve equality and freedom”. [emphasis added]

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #48 on: Sun Jun 18, 2017 - 09:10:19 »
It should be clearly understood that Bernie Sanders does not have a problem with all “Christians”. The Pope and no doubt the many Catholics in our congress and government are more than just fine for him. Perhaps Bernie views Catholicism in much the same way many Protestant Christians used to, in the not so distant past, many Bible believing Christians did not consider Roman Catholics to be Christians. In any case, the following links, and quotes or headlines from those links reveal his high esteem for at least one “Christian” entity.

http://time.com/4287640/bernie-sanders-praises-pope-francis/

Bernie Sanders Praises Pope Francis Ahead of Vatican Visit

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/catholic-tv-interview-bernie-sanders-praises-popes-socialism

In Catholic TV interview, Bernie Sanders praises pope's ‘socialism’

https://www.voanews.com/a/sanders-clinton-battle-in-new-york-democratic-debate/3286870.html

At Vatican, Sanders Praises Pope, Slams Global Inequality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dugf-jQNGB4

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2016/04/us/bernie-sanders-pope-who-said-it/

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Who said it:
Bernie Sanders or the Pope?


By Daniel Burke, CNN Religion Editor

A few years ago ago, a pope profusely praised democratic socialism, calling the political platform a close fit with the Catholic Church’s social agenda.
That Pope was Benedict XVI, a man known for his forceful defense of Catholic orthodoxy.

The point is, even conservative popes pushed liberal economic policies long before Francis arrived in Rome. But few have captured the media’s attention like the Argentine Jesuit.

Count Bernie Sanders among Francis’ hallelujah choir. The Vermont senator, an avowed democratic socialist, has repeatedly praised the Pope, calling his outspoken critique of capitalism and defense of the environment a gift from You Know Who.

“I think that the Pope is playing an historical role coming at exactly the right moment in human history, where his voice is having a profound impact, not only on our country, but all over the world,” Sanders told Salt and Light, a Canadian Catholic media ministry.

The Pope and Sanders don’t agree on everything, abortion and same-sex marriage being among the biggest points of conflict. But on economic and environmental issues at least, the Catholic prelate and secular Jewish senator sometimes sound like long, lost soulmates. Take a look below, for instance, and see if you can tell which man uttered the quote in question.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #49 on: Sat Jun 24, 2017 - 12:59:27 »
The quotes below the links provided, may be viewed with the entire articles at said links. All emphasis in the quotes are mine. My comments if any are in blue.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/30/president-obama-sees-pope-francis-as-political-all/

Obama finds an ally on political controversies at the Vatican

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It’s not quite a gift from God but, politically, it may be the next best thing.

President Obama increasingly is finding a key policy ally in the Vatican, with Pope Francis standing virtually shoulder to shoulder with the White House on income inequality and a historic diplomatic reboot with communist Cuba. The pontiff next year also appears poised to offer greater support to the president on climate change initiatives and reportedly wants to be a leading voice at a U.N. global warming summit next year, where the American president will make perhaps his greatest pitch to date for more dramatic action on the environment.

For Mr. Obama and fellow Democrats, aligning with Francis offers clear benefits in the short term, as they are able to highlight agreement on controversial issues with one of the most respected figures on the planet.
But in the long term, analysts say, Democrats may pay something of a political price.

To soothe American Catholics, who may have grown suspicious of the church’s partnership with a liberal White House, the pope in the coming months and years is likely to zero in on fundamental disagreements with the Democratic Party
on issues such as abortion and religious liberty, said Joseph Prud'homme, a political science professor and the director of the Institute for the Study of Religion, Politics, and Culture at Washington College.

“I believe Francis will remind the faithful in his position as supreme pastor about what he has consistently said about life and religious liberty. I hope, and I expect, that he will, after these initiatives [on Cuba and climate change], remind the faithful of the unending position of the church with respect to the sanctity of human life, the importance of religious liberty,” Mr. Prud'homme said.


History has and will continue to play out the effects of Obama's cooperation with and dependence upon the papacy. We now know how he bypassed Congress in order to bring about that which he and the pope agreed upon. Though Mr. Trump has thrown a monkey wrench into those plans for now. Nevertheless the shared quest for income equality through wealth redistribution marches forward under other papal minions still. The above account also clearly reveals the papacies manipulation of both sides of the isle of Congress, in that it points out the political price Democrats might and or most certainly will pay in the future when Rome sides with the Republicans on issues they also agree upon. So continues the success of the papacies unending quest for world domination.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-implores-governments-to-redistribute-wealth-to-the-poor/

Pope implores governments to redistribute wealth to the poor

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VATICAN CITY -- Pope Francis called Friday for governments to redistribute wealth to the poor in a new spirit of generosity to help curb the "economy of exclusion" that is taking hold today.

Latin America's first pope has frequently lashed out at the injustices of capitalism and the global economic system that excludes so much of humanity, though his predecessors have voiced similar concerns.

On Friday, Francis called for the United Nations to promote a "worldwide ethical mobilization" of solidarity with the poor in a new spirit of generosity.

He said a more equal form of economic progress can be had through "the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the state, as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society.”


Where do governments get their money? Is it not from the people they govern? Should not the Pope be asking the people of various nations to financially support his agenda, rather than the governing bodies of those people to do so with or without their consent? The Protestant reformers and the founders of this nation worked hard to establish government for the people and by the people so they would not have to financially support religions and or their political aspirations if they did not want to. The papacy bypasses this fundamental right by appealing to governments to supply the financial needs of their political agenda, at the tax payers of these various nations expense. Against the will of countless millions no doubt. This is the exact kind of abuse countless people suffered during the dark ages when the Church of Rome and the state were constantly in bed together. This is not to mention the many other abuses associated with the same.

Apart from this, why should big bad capitalists have to uphold and maintain the economies of those nations who themselves reject capitalism? What sense does that make. If nations whose economies just aren't working choose to reject capitalism which is working apparently for the capitalist nations they need support from, then some other kind of economic and governmental reform should be the answer, not a handout from capitalists whom they despise. The Pope decries evil capitalism, and then demands capitalists bail out other failed or failing economic or governmental systems. What will this accomplish but draining the wealth of said capitalist nations, placing the burden squarely upon the tax payers of said nations, while the papacy itself sits upon a mound of immense wealth. A respectable amount of which no doubt comes from the billions in tax dollars she receives from said nations, and countless business transactions and dealings she herself has with the same.

Why wouldn't the papacy want more state control over the distribution of the wealth of nations with healthy economies, when her political influence over the same to dictate where that money will go is constantly on the increase? WAKE UP PEOPLE!


http://www.romereports.com/2016/11/16/the-vatican-will-take-part-in-2017-expo-about-energies-of-the-future

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CARD. PETER TURKSON
Dicastery for Integral Human Development
"The theme of the Expo impels us to think of ways of achieving social justice in the field of energy, and how to grant access to it for countries that lack energy and resources, making sure that energy is used in a clean and ethical way.”

The Vatican will have its own pavillion named "Energy for the common good: Taking care of the common home.” It will have an itinerary full of experiences and intellectual and spiritual proposals

The Vatican's proposal has five pillars:

1) Energy is a common good of all mankind.
2) Every human being is responsible for it and must contribute to global energy.
3) Energy management must foster peace and not conflict.
4) The main goal of energy is fostering human development.
5) Cooperation between people of all faiths is instrumental to universal access to energy.
 
Cardinal Peter Turkson says that there is another kind of energy, which is also essential.


There you have it. All people of the world of all religions must supply the needs of everyone everywhere. What does the Pope desire but a global welfare state? The redistribution of all of anyones wealth be it financial, natural resource, energy, or what have you, under his control for the common good. Which common good is of course defined by the papacy, and enforced by the governing bodies of the world. This is nothing short of the reestablishment of the dark ages. The horrors it will reproduce cannot and are not detected by the ignorant masses. Those who forget the hard lessons of history, are doomed to repeat them.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/pope-calls-wealth-redistribution

Pope Francis calls for wealth redistribution

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Pope Francis on Friday called on United Nations leaders to take better care of the poor and advocated for a “legitimate redistribution” of wealth.

“Equitable economic and social progress can only be attained by joining scientific and technical abilities with an unfailing commitment to solidarity” with the poor, the Pope said, in addition to a new spirit of generosity, according to a transcript published by Vatican Radio.

In one of the most economically liberal statements made by any Pope, Francis called for “the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State, as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society.”Francis criticized global wealth inequality and the growing level of poverty and hunger.

“An essential principle of management is the refusal to be satisfied with current results and to press forward,” he said. “Much more needs to be achieved, since an important part of humanity does not share in the benefits of progress and is in fact relegated to the status of second-class citizens.”


Says the man sitting atop perhaps the wealthiest institution on earth. Lead by example Pope Francis. Drain the wealth of your own institution which receives many billions every year already from tax payers all over the world first, before you force them to give more and more with or without their consent. Help to improve ineffective government and economy rather than just dumping money into or upon the same. Let's not create a welfare world, but rather lift others up to success and self reliance which breeds freedom, not dependence.


https://thinkprogress.org/pope-the-bible-demands-the-redistribution-of-wealth-a0ea6e59ec15

Pope: The Bible Demands The Redistribution Of Wealth

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Pope Francis called for “the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits” on Friday, arguing that the Bible demands an economic system that cares for the “poorest and those most excluded.”

Francis made the comments while speaking before a gathering of several United Nations agency leaders, including U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. As he reflected on the U.N.’s target for Future Sustainable Development Goals, the first Latin American pope asked those present to resist participating in an “economy of exclusion” and to strive to have “a real impact on the structural causes of poverty and hunger.”

“In the case of global political and economic organization, much more needs to be achieved, since an important part of humanity does not share in the benefits of progress and is in fact relegated to the status of second-class citizens,” Francis said.


While the bible most certainly does advocate helping the poor, it most certainly does not advocate the redistribution of wealth with or without the consent of the wealthy. The latter is called stealing. One of God's commandments strictly forbids such. This same command of course also condemns all who have become rich by stealing from the poor. While it would be fine for most to see the wealth of those who have stolen from the poor to obtain their wealth, see that wealth redistributed among the poor, this is not the same as a blanket redistribution of wealth. The latter involves infringements upon financial freedom, and the right to choose what charities one's excess wealth goes to, if any at all. No religion or government should be given or take control of the wealth of its constituents without their consent.

George Washington

In a letter to the Ministers and ruling Elders delegated to represent the churches in Mass. and New H. which compose the first Presbytery of the Eastward.

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" And here, I am persuaded, you will permit me to observe, that the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political attention. To this consideration we ought to ascribe the absence of any regulation respecting religion from the Magna Charta of our country.
    To the guidance of the ministers of the gospel this important object is, perhaps, more properly commited. It will be your care to instruct the ingnorant, to reclaim the devious; and in the progress of morality and science, to which our government will give every furtherance, we may expect confidently, the advancement of true religion and the completion of happiness. "


What does the Pope wish and strive for, but to completely reverse the above intentions of our founding fathers? He wishes to address and motivate the governments of this world to submit to his guidance in political as well as religious matters. He wishes to undo all that the Protestant Reformation which reached its political climax in the establishment of the government of the United States of America and the binding force of its Constitution representing government by and for the people. Which Constitution demands a healthy separation of church and state, not the neglect of or manipulation of one by or over the other.

 Thomas Jefferson

BILL FOR ESTABLISHING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN VIRGINIA (1799)

Well aware that Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burdens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up there own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time; that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tryannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness, and is withdrawing from the ministry those temporal rewards, which proceeding from an approbation of their personal conduct, are an additional incitement to earnest and unremitting labors for the instruction of mankind; that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, more than our opinions in physics or geometry; that, therefore, the proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him the incapacity of being called to the offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opoinion, is depriving him injuriously of those priviledges and advantages to which in common with his fellow citizens he has a natural right; that it tends also to corrupt the principles of that very religion it is meant to encourage, by bribing, with a monopoly of worldly honors and emoluments, those who will externally profess and conform to it; that though indeed these are criminal who do not withstand such temptation, yet neither are those innocent who lay the bait in their way; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the feild of opoinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles, on the supposition of their ill tendency, is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency, will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own; that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its offices to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them.
    Be it therefore enacted by the General Assembly, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.
    And though we well know this Assembly, elected for the people for the ordinary services of legislation only, have no power to restrain the acts of succeeding assemblies, constituted with the powers equal to our own, and that therefore to declare this act irrevocable, would be of no effect in law, yet we are free to declare, and do declare, that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right.


Citizens all over the world, including citizens of these United States, now pay billions of tax dollars every year to the Church of Rome with or without their consent by act of their governments. Their politicians are redistributing the wealth of their nations at the request of the Roman Pontiff and aided by his minions at the UN as well. These nations are also being flooded with migrants both legal and illegal as an arm of this same wealth redistribution, with direct political and physical aid from the Church of Rome. In short, the Church of Rome is establishing a global government which in effect is to repudiate all that the Protestant Reformation accomplish towards human development and freedom. WAKE UP PEOPLE! COME OUT, COME OUT OF BABYLON.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #50 on: Sat Jul 01, 2017 - 13:51:02 »
The following quote is from the book FACTS OF FAITH by Christian Edwardson, Southern Publishing Association 1942

A MESSAGE FOR OUR TIMES

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We shall here refer to one other similar denial. In the Roman Catholic paper, Shepherd of the Valley, there appeared an article by the editor, in which he stated: “If Catholics ever attain, which they surely will, though at a distant day, the immense numerical majority in the United States, religious liberty, as at present understood, will be at an end.” A Protestant lecturer, who made use of this quotation, was bitterly arraigned in a double-column front-page article in the Catholic Standard and Times for his false statements regarding Catholics; for, it pointed out, if he had finished the quotation with the words which followed, “so say our enemies,” it would have reversed its meaning. The incident would have passed off at the expense of the Protestant lecturer, had not the Western Watchman of July 24, 1913, continued the quotation still further, declaring:
“The whole quotation should read: ‘If Catholics ever attain, which they surely will, though at a distant day, the immense numerical majority in the United States, religious liberty, as at present understood, will be at an end. So say our enemies; so say we.’ “- Quoted in “Protestant Magazine,” October, 1913, p. 474. Why those who tried to deny their former statements should leave out the words, “so say we,” is very evident. But what can we think of those who publicly deny facts to screen their church from unfavorable public opinions, unless they act from the motive that “the end justifies the means,” and that “heretics” have no moral right to facts which they would misuse.

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« Reply #52 on: Sat Jul 15, 2017 - 12:45:59 »
Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.[/szie]

https://prophecyinthenews.com/world_news/pope-francis-calls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/

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The Pope has argued that the creation of the one world government is needed to combat major issues such as “climate change.”

Pope Francis called for “a one world government” and “political authority” this week, arguing that the creation of the one world government is needed to combat major issues such as “climate change.”

Speaking with Ecuador’s “El Universo” newspaper, the Pope said that the United Nations doesnt have enough power and must be granted full governmental control “for the good of humanity.”



http://www.neonnettle.com/news/2345-the-pope-demands-a-one-world-government-to-save-humanity-

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The Pope has called for the creation of "a one world government" and an unelected "political authority" in a bid to "save humanity" from "climate change”.

During an interview with Ecuador’s "El Universo" newspaper, Pope Francis said that the United Nations must be granted full governmental authority as it needs more power "for the good of humanity”.

The most disturbing part of his comments is the Pope’s call for a new global political authority.

Pope Francis recently met with German Chancellor Angela Merkel to deliver a message "from God”.

He told her that his "holy message" was to tear down border walls and do everything in her power to take down US President Donald Trump.



https://www.infowars.com/12-times-pope-francis-has-openly-promoted-a-one-world-religion-or-a-new-world-order/

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12 TIMES POPE FRANCIS HAS OPENLY PROMOTED A ONE WORLD RELIGION OR A NEW WORLD ORDER

It has become exceedingly clear that his agenda includes moving humanity toward a one world religion and a new world order

On Sunday, Pope Francis told hundreds of thousands of young people gathered for World Youth Day in Poland that they need to “believe in a new humanity” and that they should refuse “to see borders as barriers”.



https://www.crossroad.to/articles2/forcing-change/09/9-vatican.htm

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The Vatican’s Quest for a World Political Authority

Conclusion

That the Holy See has, for at least six decades, supported the quest for a global political structure.

That Pope Benedict has, through his recent encyclical, explicitly supported the idea of a world political authority; and that this world government should be designed to incorporate the principle of subsidiarity. Further point: That subsidiarity in a universal political structure would be akin to the slogan, "think global, act local.”

That the influence of the Holy See upon the international community is substantial, and that the Papacy has the backing and general support of hundreds of millions around the world, adding "local-to-global" support for the Vatican’s geo-political visions.

That advocates for world government – such as the World Federalist Movement – will pick up on Pope Benedict’s recommendations and use it to parade the idea of world management.

That many Roman Catholics and Catholic organizations will subsequently endorse the proposal for a world political authority, and hence support various movements for global governance.

That individuals and organizations within and outside the Catholic Church will defend the Pope’s encyclical by seeking to spiritualize or moralize the text, thereby attempting to soften the controversy. Yet, the Pope’s intent for a world political authority remains.

That a minority of Catholics will vocally oppose the Vatican’s call for UN empowerment and international government (many more will be indifferent). Ridicule may occur for those who publically speak against Benedict’s political ideals. Expect rifts between those who oppose and those who advocate global governance.

That non-Catholic faith groups will support Pope Benedict’s encyclical. Already an evangelical response document has been issued by a group of professors and national evangelical leaders. Titled, Doing the Truth in Love, this text agrees that new forms of global authority are necessary, but that it "must secure increased participation, transparency and accountability, and help strengthen the nation state relative to the power of global finance."25 Such a view is more utopian than practical, as few real incentives would compel a world government to operate this openly.

That new alliances and networks will be formed to increase political and social pressure in support of world management, and that these networks will incorporate Catholic/Vatican groups, non-governmental organizations, and elements from the United Nations.

When the Holy See raises the specter of world government it should jolt Catholics and non-Catholics alike. Even if a world political authority doesn’t come to fruition, such advocacy is stunning. Here we have the planet’s most influential religious office – itself politically structured as a top-down authority – promoting a top-down system of international management. The perception alone is deeply troubling.

And if a world political authority does come into play, what will keep it from morphing into an autocratic regime? Even in this we are assuming that the global authority will be introduced as a limited government. The ultimate contradiction, of course, is a toothless world authority. Without enforcement capabilities it would be little more than an advisory board. To be effective, therefore, it must be a centralist power with clout: Anything less would be meaningless.

But is this what the world needs to ensure global order?

Consider for a moment the last one hundred years, a century rife with examples of "well-meaning" centralist governments – they were always well meaning to somebody. In the name of "peace and security" these regimes crushed domestic opponents, often liquidating their own supporters in the process. From Chile to China the unofficial motto, "peace is the destruction of all opposition," was translated into action. And in the case of Nazi Germany, the government rose to power through the democratic process. Sadly, in some cases the Vatican itself held the hands of those who perpetrated such crimes, as in Croatia during the 1940s.26
Does all of this mean that the Holy See supports a dictatorial world regime? Not according to Pope Benedict’s encyclical, as he openly recognized the dangerous possibility of a "universal power of a tyrannical nature." His hope, as outlined in Caritas in Veritate, is a world political authority checked by legal boundaries so as not to "infringe upon freedom." Government overstep would be offset by accountability measures.

A fine concept in theory, but it rests on a shaky assumption: That the world political authority will remain content to live within prescribed limitations; satisfied to operate within tight social, economic, and political constraints. Here’s the snag: our advanced, democratic nations – and even the Vatican – haven’t and can’t live up to this basic standard.

While Pope Benedict tries to soft-sell Catholics and national leaders on the idea of world government, the sobering words of Lord Acton drift-in from a nearly forgotten past: "Power corrupts…"  FC



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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #53 on: Sat Jul 29, 2017 - 16:30:27 »
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/why-religious-leaders-might-be-best-at-fighting-extremism-56258/

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Why religious leaders might be best at fighting extremism

New York City, N.Y., Jul 19, 2017 / 06:01 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Religious leaders, not secularists, are often in the best position to persuade violent religious extremists towards peace, the papal nuncio to the United Nations has said in response to an effort to prevent atrocities.

“The very existence of a plan directed toward religious leaders is also a humble recognition by the international community that those who are being incited by pseudo-religious motivations for violence aren’t going to be effectively persuaded out of it by secular argumentation from so-called infidels or by economic materialism,” Archbishop Bernardito Auza said July 14.

“They need, rather, valid religious arguments that show that extremists’ violence-inducing exegesis is unfaithful to the text and to the God they’re claiming to serve; they need persuasive counterarguments that plant the seeds of peace and eradicate the weeds of violence.”


More papal political maneuvers. Is it just coincidence that the papacy promotes and encourages acceptance of massive muslim migrations into non muslim nations with secularized governments, while believing it is more effective at fighting religious extremism? Or is this just another political strategy to increase their power and influence in nations with secularized governments? Knowing that secularized government will not be able to deal with the situation, then stepping into the vacuum of power to bolster their own political clout. Not to mention, diverting peoples attention away from their own political aspirations for world dominance, toward a manipulated environment designed to center attention upon extremists of another religion seeking to establish the same.

Why else would the papacy want and encourage massive migration of Muslims who themselves do not separate religion and the state. Is it not because such will aid her in establishing religion above the secular state, that she might end up on top of both? This is certainly not beyond the scope of a religious institution which believes it is their divine right to rule the world.


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« Reply #54 on: Sat Jul 29, 2017 - 16:49:36 »
All emphasis in the following quotes from the link provided are mine.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/what-civilta-cattolicas-analysis-of-us-christianity-missed-90224/

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What Civilta Cattolica's analysis of US Christianity missed

Washington D.C., Jul 17, 2017 / 04:44 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- An analysis piece in La Civilta Cattolica alleging an “ecumenism of hate” between Catholics and Evangelical Fundamentalists is seriously flawed in its presentation of religion in public life, experts said.

Speaking about the article, which claims religious and political elements of society should not be “confused,” Elizabeth Bruenig, a writer on Christianity and politics, said: “this is a departure from most of the historical writings the Church has produced on how Catholics should think about politics and religion.”……….

The piece made a number of claims, alleging that many conservative Christians have united on political issues like immigration and have ultimately promoted an “ecumenism of hate” in policies that would allegedly contradict Pope Francis’ message of mercy……..

A chief flaw of the piece is its suggestion that religion and politics should be separated, Bruenig added. While distinctions should be made between the eternal, spiritual realm and the temporal one, the piece is “ahistorical and very un-Catholic” in how it approaches the relationship between religion and politics, she said.

Fr. Spadaro and Figueroa wrote that “the religious element should never be confused with the political one. Confusing spiritual power with temporal power means subjecting one to the other.”

The article also says that “[Pope] Francis wants to break the organic link between culture, politics, institution and Church. Spirituality cannot tie itself to governments or military pacts for it is at the service of all men and women.”

This compartmentalization of faith and politics is part of flawed Enlightenment thinking, Bruenig said.

“The notion that politics and religion should basically function in separate domains is one of the original liberal Enlightenment positions on politics, and there’s a reason that most of the leading thinkers of the liberal Enlightenment were severely anti-Catholic,” she stated…………….

Such a claim flies in the face of centuries of Church teaching, Bruenig continued.

P.J. Smith, who writes at the website Semiduplex.com, agreed that the article contradicted Church teaching on the relationship between faith and politics which was put forth by Bl. Pius IX, Leo XIII, St. Pius X, Pius XI, and Ven. Pius XII, who wrote that the Church has the authority to speak on matters of economics and politics.


The Roman Catholic Church does not believe in separation of church and state. While all including the church should be free to speak on matters of economics and politics, no church or religion should have political authority to enforce their own views of the same upon anyone. This is exactly what the Roman church has done throughout its history, and continues to do today through her ever increasing illicit relationships with the political leaders of this world. This is exactly what the Reformation leaders protested against. Today, many so called Protestants are indifferent to, if not complicit to the same.


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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #55 on: Sat Jul 29, 2017 - 17:22:47 »
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/14/papal-adviser-bashes-american-christians-in-bigoted-screed/

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In a peculiar, rambling essay, papal adviser Father Antonio Spadaro SJ has caricatured white southern evangelicals as well as conservative American Catholics as ignorant, theocratic, Manichean, war-mongering fanatics anxiously awaiting the apocalypse.

It is “these religious groups that are composed mainly of whites from the deep American South” that push conflicts and justify belligerence, while favoring the Old Testament “rather than be guided by the incisive look, full of love, of Jesus in the Gospels.”

The article appeared in both Italian and English in the Vatican-vetted journal La Civiltà Cattolica, of which Father Spadaro is editor-in-chief. In it, the Jesuit priest says that U.S. Evangelicals and Catholics have engaged in “an ecumenism of conflict” that seeks to advance “a theocratic type of state.”………….

Conservative Christians, the article warns, are ultimately driven by “the desire for some influence in the political and parliamentary sphere and in the juridical and educational areas so that public norms can be subjected to religious morals.”


What a joke, coming from the Vatican which is the only religion which is also a city state, has a permanent seat at the united nations, entertains ambassadors from virtually every nation on earth, and whose leader constantly writes encyclicals politically addressing the leaders of the entire world. Sounds more like a jealous infantile rant of rage against a people still free enough to disagree with the papacy and attempt to politically block their unending socialistic and progressive political aspirations.

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Defiance against the Pope

To one of his opponents who had expressed the thought that the pope’s laws were better than God’s, Tyndale replied, “I defy the pope and all his laws; and if God spare my life, ere many years, I will cause a boy that driveth the plow shall know more of the Scripture than thou dost.” — Quoted by J. F. Mozley in William Tyndale, page 35.


Maybe white southerners and conservative American Catholics still look more to the scriptures than the Pope for their guidance concerning proper political views and application. Thanks to people like William Tyndale, who defied the Pope of his day to bring the scriptures to the people in their own language, we can still do this today. The political aspirations of the papacy never have and do not now have anything to do with the love of God revealed in the life of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ expounded upon in the Gospels. We do not need the Vatican or the Pope to define and interpret scripture for us, and seek to politically establish our version of the same upon the entire world.
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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #56 on: Sat Jul 29, 2017 - 17:58:50 »
All emphasis in the following quotes from the following provided links is mine.


http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2017/a-jesuit-chaplain-shepherds-congress-divided-flock.cfm

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How did he get there?

"There's a few answers to that question," said Father Conroy, who loves to tell a story.

"The religious answer that I give … it was an answer to prayer," he said.

"Something political would come on the radio, I would turn into an angry, argumentative … I'd be screaming at the radio and get totally upset, totally upset," he repeated for emphasis. "And after a while, I'm by myself, I'd say 'I have no serenity in the area of politics … I can't do anything about it but I'm all upset about it, and that's not helping me and that's not helping politics any.' So, I started to pray for serenity, and well, I end up in the one job in the United States where I absolutely have to abstain from politics."

The other, and more simple, explanation is that the House speaker at that time, John Boehner, was looking for a chaplain and wanted a Jesuit for the spot. Father Daniel Coughlin, the first Catholic to occupy the position, was looking to retire from the post in 2010 and Boehner had been in talks with Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a fellow Catholic, about finding a Jesuit they could both support.

Father Conroy was then working with ninth-graders in Portland, Oregon, yelling at the news on his car radio, as he frequently did, when a Jesuit superior asked to meet with him. He told him about Speaker Boehner's request.

"The Jesuits didn't come looking for this job, for this position, but it was a natural," he told Catholic News Service. "It's in our DNA, and sure, if having a Jesuit would be of assistance to the men and women of Congress and the work that they're doing, by all means.”

Jesuits, he explained, were once spiritual directors and sometimes advisers to princes and kings in Europe, so it's not an unusual role.


So, thanks to Boehner and Pelosi, we have a Jesuit Chaplin for our Senate. Boehner is the one who invited the Jesuit Pope to address our Congress as well, I do believe. Yet people wonder why our founding fathers did not trust Catholics to be unbiased politicians without respect to this or that religious institution.

https://www.prophesyagain.org/single-post/2017/06/12/Beware-A-Jesuit-Is-In-Your-House-What-Will-You-Do

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With this in mind, quite eye-opening are the words of Chaplain Conroy, “‘Jesuit Father Patrick J. Conroy says, ‘The Jesuits didn't come looking for this job, for this position, but it was a natural. It's in our DNA, and sure, if having a Jesuit would be of assistance to the men and women of Congress and the work that they're doing, by all means…’ Jesuits, he explained, were once spiritual directors and sometimes advisers to princes and kings in Europe, so it’s not an unusual role. ‘Our modus operandi is to want to be engaged in the world and engaged in a way that we can influence the most good for the most people,’ he said. The other, and more simple, explanation is that the House speaker at that time, John Boehner, was looking for a chaplain and wanted a Jesuit for the spot…Boehner had been in talks with Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a fellow Catholic, about finding a Jesuit they could both support.”[4]
 
Mr. Conroy’s words confirm what was stated of the Jesuits and their modus operandi over a century ago by Ellen White. “Under various disguises the Jesuits worked their way into offices of state, climbing up to be the counselors of kings, and shaping the policy of nations. They became servants to act as spies upon their masters. They established colleges for the sons of princes and nobles, and schools for the common people; and the children of Protestant parents were drawn into an observance of popish rites. All the outward pomp and display of the Romish worship was brought to bear to confuse the mind and dazzle and captivate the imagination, and thus the liberty for which the fathers had toiled and bled was betrayed by the sons. The Jesuits rapidly spread themselves over Europe, and wherever they went, there followed a revival of popery.”[5]
 
Chaplain Conroy said something that should not be overlooked; he stated that it was former Speaker of the House, John Boehner, that wanted a Jesuit to fill the position of House chaplain and that Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi agreed, and so it came to pass.  These very individuals, Boehner and Pelosi, Roman Catholics, were responsible for bringing Jesuit Pope Francis to the United States to address a joint session of congress;  coincidental? Not hardly. Headlines from Brietbart News and Time Magazine confirm: “Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner invite Pope Francis to address congress.”[6] “Boehner and Pelosi invite Pope Francis to congress.”[7] After two major accomplishments from John Boehner—bringing Pope Francis to address a joint session of congress and bringing in a Jesuit to serve as chaplain of the House of Representatives—his work was complete, resigned only a day after Pope Francis’ visit. Chaplain Conroy is in congress to continue and implement the work and policies that Pope Francis laid out in front of the American people; and of course Nancy Pelosi still remains to do the same.
 
Regarding Pope Francis’ visit to congress, this is what Ms. Pelosi had to say, “‘We are eager to welcome His Holiness to the U.S. Capitol and we look forward to hearing his call to live our values, to protect the poor and the needy, and to promote peace.’”[8] Pope Francis leaves no ambiguity as to what he hails as the primary solution to caring for the poor, nations enforcing Sunday worship.[9]   Just recently she made the following remarks in regard to Pope Francis, Donald Trump, climate change and the Paris agreement, which points to the very solution for combating climate change:
 
“‘Faith leaders, starting with the Holiness Pope Francis, to the evangelical community, have urged us to be responsible stewards of the beauty of God’s creation. They believe as you live that this planet is God’s creation and we have a moral responsibility to be good stewards of it…When the pope went to the White House, he talked about the dangers of air pollution when he was here. Just last week, the pope met with President Trump and gave him a copy of his encyclical, which made the strong case to halt the climate crisis. The pope wrote the climate is a common good belonging to all and meant for all. The Bible tells us to minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us and that is what we are doing by walking away from this accord.’”[10]
 
It is abundantly clear that Jesuits and Roman Catholics are occupying key positions in United States politics which translates into Jesuit/Roman Catholic principles and policies being further entwined in the fabric of American legislation and society. Thus the words are true, “Roman Catholic principles will be taken under the care and protection of the state.”[11] This simply means that a National Sunday Law is imminent. The people of God are not to wait until the fulfillment of the National Sunday Law before they say anything concerning it; they are to sound the alarm and fearlessly go forward proclaiming the message of the Third Angel of Revelation 14:9-12. 
 
“God's word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches, and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated. Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution.”[12] 

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #57 on: Sat Jul 29, 2017 - 18:05:48 »
All emphasis in the following quotes from the supplied link are mine.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/10/muslim-scholar-no-separation-church-state-islam/

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A prominent American Muslim scholar has argued that differences between Islam and other faiths run deeper than most suspect, and extend even to the question of separation of church and state.

Writing in Friday’s LA Times, Shadi Hamid, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the author of Islamic Exceptionalism: How the Struggle Over Islam is Reshaping the World, states that Western suppositions that all religions are basically the same and want the same things is fundamentally wrong.

These differences, Hamid contends, run all the way from views of the sacred text (Muslims believe that every single word of the Qur’an comes directly from Allah) to an understanding of the nature of the state and its relationship to religion.

Hamid declares that the difference between Christianity and Islam regarding the state stem from the differences in each faith’s central figure. Whereas Jesus preached giving to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s, Muhammad united faith and the state in his own person.

“Unlike Jesus,” Hamid states, “Muhammad was both prophet and politician. And more than just any politician, he was a state-builder as well as a head of state. Not only were the religious and political functions intertwined in the person of Muhammad, they were meant to be intertwined.”

“To argue for the separation of religion from politics, then, is to argue against the model of the very man Muslims most admire and seek to emulate,” Hamid argues.

Because of this, Hamid concludes, Islam “doesn’t lend itself as easily to modern liberalism,” the model of democracy adopted by the Judeo-Christian West.

For Islam, Allah only truly reigns where Muslim law—sharia—is practiced as the law of the land.


Surprise surprise, the Church of Rome supports mass immigration of a religion and people who do not separate church or religion and state, into nations of people who do. Whose leader is both prophet and politician just like the Pope of Rome. Am I the only one who sees the agenda here? Together they can more effectively target and change this inconvenient political ideology.
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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #58 on: Sun Aug 20, 2017 - 10:52:11 »
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181689

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Pope Condemns Religious Fundamentalism, Middle East Violence

Pope Francis strongly condemned violence in the Middle East Friday, in an interview with  the Vatican correspondent of Barcelona-based daily La Vanguardia.

Following his first visit to the Middle East as pope last month, the pontiff criticised fundamentalism in Christianity, Islam and Judaism as a form of violence.   

"A fundamentalist group, even if it kills no one, even it strikes no one, is violent. The mental structure of fundamentalism is violence in the name of God."

Asked about religious violence in the Middle East, Francis, who made his first visit to the region as pope last month, said it was a "contradiction".

"Violence in God's name does not fit with our times. It is something old. With historical perspective, we have to say that we Christians, at times, have practiced it," he was quoted as saying.

"Today it is unimaginable."


The stage is being set, for all who believe the bible to be the word of God, to be persecuted by the papacy and the entire world once again. If you believe so, you are violent, whether you actually ever become violent or not. You and those like you are the cause of all the violence in the world. Never mind that you believe the word of God condemns violence in His name. If you thought the papacies war on the bible and bible believers was over, you better think again. Bible believers are her enemies.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #59 on: Thu Aug 24, 2017 - 10:21:00 »
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181689

All emphasis in the following quote from article at above internet site, are mine.

The stage is being set, for all who believe the bible to be the word of God, to be persecuted by the papacy and the entire world once again. If you believe so, you are violent, whether you actually ever become violent or not. You and those like you are the cause of all the violence in the world. Never mind that you believe the word of God condemns violence in His name. If you thought the papacies war on the bible and bible believers was over, you better think again. Bible believers are her enemies.


Is this the Gospel message of the Bible? 


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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #60 on: Fri Aug 25, 2017 - 21:39:17 »
Is this the Gospel message of the Bible?

No. Its Roman politics. Thus the title, Roman politics. It is a revelation of the politics of BABYLON THE GREAT, in fulfilling the details of the mystery of iniquity, as apposed to the mystery of Godliness revealed in the gospel and the fruits thereof.

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.


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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #61 on: Fri Aug 25, 2017 - 22:01:20 »
https://wwrn.org/articles/47253/

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Pope: Rights of migrants trump national security concerns

Nicole Winfield (AP, August 21, 2017)

Vatican City — Pope Francis on Monday urged countries to greatly improve their welcome to migrants and stop collective expulsions, saying migrants’ dignity and right to protection trumps national security concerns.

Francis’ politically pointed message was made in view of the Catholic Church’s 2018 world refugee day, celebrated Jan. 14. It comes amid mounting anti-immigrant sentiment in Europe and beyond following waves of migrant arrivals and Islamic extremist attacks.

In the message, Francis demanded governments welcome, protect, promote and integrate migrants, saying Jesus’ message of love is rooted in welcoming the “rejected strangers of every age.”

He demanded a simplified process of granting humanitarian and temporary visas and rejected arbitrary and collective expulsions as “unsuitable.” He said the principle of ensuring each person’s dignity “obliges us to always prioritize personal safety over national security.”
Francis has made refugees a priority of his pontificate, making his first trip outside Rome in 2013 to the island of Lampedusa, ground zero in Europe’s migration crisis. He has repeatedly spoken out for migrants’ rights, demanded countries build “bridges not walls,” and personally brought a dozen Syrian refugees back to Rome with him when he visited a Greek refugee camp in 2016.

Ignoring critics who say his calls are unrealistic and naive, Francis insisted in the new message that border guards must be trained to protect migrants and that each new arrival, regardless of legal status, must be guaranteed access to basic services beyond health care.

That extends to guaranteeing access to consulates, the justice system and the ability to open a bank account and survive financially, he said.
Unaccompanied minors, he said, require even greater protection, including guaranteeing them citizenship and access to schooling, as well as foster programs rather than detention centers.

He called for policies that support family reunification, employment opportunities and accelerated citizenship procedures to improve migrants’ abilities to integrate.

His call was immediately rejected by the leader of Italy’s anti-immigrant Northern League party, which has opposed government proposals to change Italy’s law to accelerate citizenship for children born in Italy to non-Italians.

“If you want to do it in the Vatican, go ahead,” Matteo Salvini wrote on Facebook. “But as a Catholic, I don’t think Italy can welcome and support the whole world.”

The Pope apparently has little concern for the security of the citizens of nations, or the displacement of peoples, jobs, and wealth caused by massive migration as well. Not to mention the financial burden upon nations already deeply in debt, including our own to the tune of what 20 trillion, or is it 21 trillion now? Nor the effect of people whose political ideologies clash with those of the culture or societies they are thrust into. To the contrary, he no doubt anticipates and awaits the further destabilization of existing governments by the same. He is simply pushing onward the conditions which lead to the rise of papal power the first time around in Europe leading to the dark ages.

The destabilization and fall of the western Roman empire was the papacies rise to power. Now that she has re-established diplomatic ties with nations, virtually all nations of the earth, she wishes to recreate the conditions which led to her rise the first time on a global scale. Thus accomplishing her all time ultimate goal, world domination.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #62 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 11:20:19 »
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/paul-ryan-catholic-breakfast/index.html

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Paul Ryan says America needs Catholicism weeks after failed chaplain ousting

Washington (CNN)House Speaker Paul Ryan made the case Thursday for Catholicism as a faith that can help solve the country's problems.

Ryan, who is Catholic, lamented at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast what he sees as a deepening sense of "identity politics and tribalism" in the country, as well as a trend of "moral relativism" that is becoming "more and more pervasive."

"If there was ever a time, if there was ever a place where Catholics — from the clergy to the laity — are needed, it is here and it is now, helping solve this problem, addressing this challenge," he said. "Our social doctrine is the perfect antidote to what ails our culture.".........................

Ryan said he sees "this tremendous opportunity for Catholics to lead" and "help bring our culture and our country closer to their great moral potential."

"We are uniquely suited for this task -- from the clergy to the laity, we all have got to step up," he added.

Earlier this month, Rev. Pat Conroy, the House chaplain and a Jesuit priest, sent a letter to Ryan's office rescinding his resignation that he made weeks earlier -- a resignation that caused a firestorm across Capitol Hill as members of both parties demanded answers as to why Conroy was asked to leave.
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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #63 on: Sat Jun 16, 2018 - 16:58:14 »
The next several posts are an examination of the progression of Catholic political thought and action over the last fifty years or so in our nation, in light of the following declarations from the past concerning the same.

HISTORY OF THE REFORMATION OF THE SIXTEENTH CENTURY
by J. H. Merle D’Aubigne


PREFACE TO VOLUME THIRD


The cause of truth recompenses those who embrace and defend it, and such has been the result with the nations who received the Reformation. In the eighteenth century, at the very moment when Rome thought to triumph by the Jesuits and the scaffold, the victory slipped from her grasp. Rome fell, like Naples, Portugal, and Spain, into inextricable difficulties; and at the same time two Protestant nations arose and began to exercise an influence over Europe that had hitherto belonged to the Roman catholic powers. England came forth victorious from those attacks of the French and Spaniards which the pope had so long been stirring up against her, and the Elector of Brandenburg, in spite of the wrath of Clement XI, encircled his head with a kingly crown. Since that time England has extended her dominion in every quarter of the globe, and Prussia has taken a new rank among the continental states, while a third power, Russia, also separated from Rome, has been growing up in her immense deserts. In this manner have evangelical principles exerted their influence over the countries that have embraced them, and righteousness hath exalted the nations (Proverbs 14:34). Let the evangelical nations be well assured that to Protestantism they are indebted for their greatness. From the moment they abandon the position that God has given them, and incline again towards Rome, they will lose their glory and their power. Rome is now endeavoring to win them over, employing flattery and threats by turns; she would, like Delilah, lull them to sleep upon her knees,.....but it would be to cut off their locks, that their adversaries might put out their eyes and bind them with fetters of brass.(paragraph 6)


CHRIST AND ANTICHRIST, by Samuel J. Cassels

In America, particularly, is this investigation important. In all the countries over which it has triumphed, Popery, like the anaconda, has wound around its folds of art, of cunning, of superstition and of power, until, enclosing everything in its too friendly embraces, it has, with one tremendous effort, crushed the nation to death. It sends forth its missionaries; it gathers its schools and colleges; it erects its cathedrals and builds its churches; it is patriotic, benevolent, charitable. Its alms and offerings attract the vulgar, its austerities and penances convince the sceptical. It is at first tolerated; then approved; next obeyed! But now come the dread realities of the system, taxation, passive submission, excommunications, interdicts, crusades, the inquisition, destruction. Yes, Popery has well nigh destroyed every country in which it has been predominant. The liberties and national prosperity of a people cannot coexist with such a system...(PART 2 ANTICHRIST OR THE PAPACY PROVED TO BE THE ANTICHRIST PREDICTED IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, INTRODUCTORY REMARKS, Pgs. 125&126)

Thus does the anomalous character of the Papacy prove it to be the antitype of “the little horn.” This power is unlike all others; is uncongenial with all others. It is a usurper, a supplanter. We can readily conceive, how a spiritual power, either associated with the state, or entirely independent of the state, may exist without discord or collision. If the church be entirely distinct from the political institutions of a people, there can of course be no disturbance, as there is no contact. And if a church be established by law, as the operations of the religious and the political systems are kept in distinct spheres, there may be but occasional evils growing out of such union. But for a government that claims its existence jure divino, that sets up a universal empire, that arrogates to itself supremacy in all civil, as well as ecclesiastical matters — for a government that considers itself infallible, and which requires absolute submission in all its subjects — for such a government to exist in the midst of other governments; in its very principles trampling upon their rights and privileges; wielding both a temporal and a spiritual sword; punishing offenders both in this world and the next — for such a government to exist in harmony with other governments, is impossible, absolutely impossible. The papal system can harmonize with no other, whether religious or political. To the religious world, it exhibits one supreme pontiff of Christendom, and requires for him universal obedience. To the political world, it presents one great monarch, whose throne is above every throne, and whose will is law throughout the globe. No the Papacy is a unit, and presents the front of positive hostility to every thing that is not consolidated in itself. It may not be able to carry out its principles and wishes, but this is its nature. It is “diverse from all other governments; it is the adversary of all other governments.(Chapter 3, Pgs. 155&156)

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #64 on: Sat Jun 16, 2018 - 17:03:13 »
The following are the thoughts of the first Catholic President of the United States, spoken while many Americans were still leery of the true motives of Catholic politicians and politics.


http://www.americanyawp.com/reader/26-the-affluent-society/john-f-kennedy-on-the-separation-of-church-and-state-1960/

John F. Kennedy on the Separation of Church and State (1960)

American Anti-Catholicism had softened in the aftermath of World War II, but no Catholic had ever been elected president and Protestant Americans had long been suspicious of Catholic politicians when John F. Kennedy ran for the presidency in 1960. (Al Smith, the first Catholic presidential candidate, was roundly defeated in 1928 owing in large part to popular anti-Catholic prejudice). On September 12, 1960, Kennedy addressed the Greater Houston Ministerial Association and he not only allayed popular fears of his Catholic faith, he delivered a seminal statement on the separation of church and state

… Because I am a Catholic, and no Catholic has ever been elected President, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured—perhaps deliberately, in some quarters less responsible than this. So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again—not what kind of church I believe in, for that should be important only to me—but what kind of America I believe in.

I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute—where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote—where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference—and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish—where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source—where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials—and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.

For while this year it may be a Catholic against whom the finger of suspicion is pointed, in other years it has been, and may someday be again, a Jew—or a Quaker—or a Unitarian—or a Baptist. It was Virginia’s harassment of Baptist preachers, for example, that helped lead to Jefferson’s statute of religious freedom. Today I may be the victim—but tomorrow it may be you—until the whole fabric of our harmonious society is ripped at a time of great national peril.

Finally, I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end—where all men and all churches are treated as equal—where every man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice—where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind—and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their works in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.

That is the kind of America in which I believe. And it represents the kind of Presidency in which I believe—a great office that must neither be humbled by making it the instrument of any one religious group nor tarnished by arbitrarily withholding its occupancy from the members of any one religious group. I believe in a President whose religious views are his own private affair, neither imposed by him upon the Nation or imposed by the Nation upon him as a condition to holding that office.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #65 on: Sat Jun 16, 2018 - 17:19:16 »
We will now examine much more recent developments in light of JFK's testimony, now that Catholics are part of a majority group in our Congress and Supreme Court, and compose a large number of more recent Presidents cabinets. This is not to mention their ever increasing rolls in our federal justice and law enforcement entities as well. All emphasis in the following quotes is mine.


http://time.com/23805/pope-francis-john-boehner-nancy-pelosi-congress/

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House Speaker John Boehner - “It is with reverence and admiration that I have invited Pope Francis, as head of state of the Holy See and the first Pope to hail from the Americas, to address a joint meeting of the United States Congress.

“Pope Francis has inspired millions of Americans with his pastoral manner and servant leadership, challenging all people to lead lives of mercy, forgiveness, solidarity, and humble service.

“His tireless call for the protection of the most vulnerable among us—the ailing, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the impoverished, the unborn—has awakened hearts on every continent.

“His social teachings, rooted in ‘the joy of the gospel,’ have prompted careful reflection and vigorous dialogue among people of all ideologies and religious views in the United States and throughout a rapidly changing world, particularly among those who champion human dignity, freedom, and social justice.

“These principles are among the fundamentals of the American Idea. And though our nation sometimes fails to live up to these principles, at our best we give them new life as we seek the common good. Many in the United States believe these principles are undermined by ‘crony capitalism’ and the ongoing centralization of political power in the institutions of our federal government, which threaten to disrupt the delicate balance between the twin virtues of subsidiarity and solidarity. They have embraced Pope Francis’ reminder that we cannot meet our responsibility to the poor with a welfare mentality based on business calculations. We can meet it only with personal charity on the one hand and sound, inclusive policies on the other.

“The Holy Father’s pastoral message challenges people of all faiths, ideologies and political parties. His address as a visiting head of state before a joint meeting of the House and Senate would honor our nation in keeping with the best traditions of our democratic institutions. It would also offer an excellent opportunity for the American people as well as the nations of the world to hear his message in full.

“It is with deep gratitude that I have asked Pope Francis to consider this open invitation on behalf of the Congress and the millions of citizens of the United States we serve.”


Minority Leader Pelosi - “As we approach the first anniversary of the inauguration of Pope Francis, I am pleased to join Speaker Boehner in inviting His Holiness to address a Joint Meeting of the United States Congress.

“I had the privilege of attending His Holiness’ inauguration at the Vatican and was inspired by his message of peace, compassion, and brotherhood.

“Whether inspired by St. Francis of Assisi, who cared for all of God’s creation, or by St. Joseph, protector of the church, Pope Francis has lived his values and upheld his promise to be a moral force, to protect the poor and the needy, to serve as a champion of the less fortunate, and to promote love and understanding among faiths and nations.”


The difference between JFK's professed views when Rome had little representation and support in our nations Federal governing bodies, and the views of the majority that now inhabit it is blaring. The above invitation was of course accepted and the Pope of Rome addressed our entire Congress and Federal government. The question is, would this cause JFK to roll over in his grave, or was this an expected outcome from the beginning? According to the quotes I began this examination with, the latter is more likely, regardless of what JFK himself intended.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #66 on: Sat Jun 16, 2018 - 17:51:31 »
The following from the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, reveals the obvious influence of Roman Catholic social teaching upon his politics. If I am not mistaken, six out of the last seven Speakers have been Catholic, why is that do you suppose? There is no denying or distancing the roll of Catholic leadership in our government during the massive changes that have taken place within this country over the last several decades. The paralysis of our Congress concerning massive legal and illegal immigration is just one example of Congressional action or lack thereof which is directly traceable back to Roman Catholic social doctrine and or justice. This is not to mention the direct trail to Roman Catholic facilitation of the same from within and without our borders. Paul Ryan himself also recently and proudly admitted or should I say boasted of the influence of Catholic social teaching upon the formation of his new budget. Make no mistake about it, this trend of Romanizing America will end exactly where the SDA Church has historically predicted it would. Though most SDA's are themselves in denial of this today as well.


https://www.speaker.gov/press-release/full-text-speaker-ryan-s-address-national-catholic-prayer-breakfast

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“Good morning, everybody. I am honored to be here with friends and colleagues—people I have admired and worked with for a long time.“So there is a psalm I like a lot. It is the 46th psalm: ‘Be still and know that I am God.’

“We live our lives at such a relentless pace. There’s rarely time to slow down, let alone be still.

“But the stillness of reflection—of prayer—is where we reconnect with our faith, with our place in the circle of humanity.

“Stillness is even more precious in a time when our public discourse has become more raucous than rational. ‘The survival of the shrillest,’ some have called it.

“We tend to fixate on the shrillness, but let’s talk about survival for a moment. It seems like we are always in survival mode, doesn’t it? Trying to get through the day, if not the hour. We go through the motions, we argue on the margins. We get absorbed in intrigue that isn’t so intriguing.

“There is a line attributed to Saint Augustine: ‘God is always trying to give good things to us, but our hands are too full to receive them.’

“I want to spend a few minutes reflecting on some of the gifts God is trying to give us, namely what Catholic social doctrine brings to public life.

“Because there is a deeply serious problem we see right now within our society.

“We see moral relativism becoming more and more pervasive in our culture. Identity politics and tribalism have grown on top of this. All of it has been made more prevalent by 21st century technology. And there is plenty of money to be made on making it worse.

“If there was ever a time and place where Catholics—from the clergy to the laity—are needed, it is here and now, in helping to solve this problem.“Our social doctrine is a perfect antidote to what ails our culture.
It begins with a vision of a free and virtuous society—not a set of policy prescriptions or even a toolkit for producing those prescriptions—but a vision of dignity and possibility.

“It is a vision that inspires us to serve the common good, to live faithfully, and to renew the hope that our Founders' vision of liberty and justice for all can be achieved in our less-than-perfect world.

“As lay Catholics, nothing is more fulfilling than living out our faith, with joy, with passion, with purpose. It is why this breakfast was founded, to heed Saint John Paul II's call for a ‘new evangelization.’ ‘Cast out to the deep,’ he would say.

“Because again, we are so often stuck in the shallow end, in survival mode. ’Our social doctrine does not offer instant answers or easy outcomes. It gives us something far more important, far more animating: a way to conduct our public discourse so that a measure of wisdom is achieved through common work toward noble ends.

“This goes beyond a call for civility. The problems we are facing are bigger than the tone we take.

“Our social doctrine teaches us that democracy requires solidarity, a sense of civic friendship. We see our neighbors as partners in this common enterprise—even when we disagree, especially when we disagree.

“That friendship is the foundation for a mature civic patriotism, where we live our freedom for the common good, not just our personal gain.

“It is a patriotism grounded in respect for the inherent dignity and inalienable value of every person. We believe every person has a role and a voice in the community of concern and protection. No one is written off. “The good news—the great news—is that there are new evangelizers living out this doctrine all around us.

“One of them is a woman named Heather Reynolds. Heather runs Catholic Charities Fort Worth.

“For years, I had been hearing about all the great work they were doing down there. Last month, I finally had the chance to see it firsthand.

“We sat down with some of their clients and case workers. That's how they do everything: case management, a customized approach.

“One gentleman, his name was Chris. Chris grew up in a big family, and he watched his older siblings get into all kinds of trouble.

“His fate was the farm or the oil field. That was it. No way out. “One day Chris told his wife, he wanted to go to nursing school. He reached out to Catholic Charities.

“They helped him navigate the system, figure out how to make it work. Even after he graduated, they are still there for him and his family. “What stands out for Chris is not any one thing Catholic Charities did to help him. It is, he said, ‘the feeling that you have an out, that you don't have to settle.’

“This, to me, is the great manifestation of the social magisterium. It is that sense of self-worth and meaning we can receive only from the institutions closest to us.

“People and problems are not treated as abstractions. The work is done eye-to-eye, soul-to-soul.“That capacity to flourish—and to falter—is at the very heart of subsidiarity.

“See, that’s a word I can use with this audience, subsidiarity. It is a beautiful principle, especially when conjoined with its rightful partner: solidarity.“Catholic social teaching tells us that our public moral culture—the foundation of our political culture—is shaped by these natural institutions and free associations of civil society.

“And it cautions us against allowing the state too great a reach into civil society.

“Otherwise, we risk stifling what de Tocqueville found so admirable in our young republic: those instincts for free association, philanthropy, and voluntarism.

“We need these mediating institutions in our lives. We need them to be healthy and vibrant. They are not just a pause from the noise, or a refuge from the ugliness. They are part of the antidote to what ails our society.

“Pope Francis has called all Catholics to be healers of the walking wounded. We should welcome that reminder, for it brings us back to what Catholics in this country have done for generations.

“We should all insist that public policy at every level permits Catholic institutions the maximum freedom to serve the poor...the elderly...children yearning for foster families...women in crisis pregnancies…families torn apart by the opioid epidemic: all those who look to the church for the help they need to live lives of purpose. We should insist on this.

“Mother Teresa, now Saint Teresa, once said this: ‘God has not called me to be successful. He has called me to be faithful.’

“The journey is the thing. It always has been. We obsess about how things look. Everything in politics is about 'optics,' a word I assure you I will not miss.

“Think of the good we could do if we spent a little more time looking inward, pondering how we are all imperfect, we are all fallen. Everything flows from that common humanity, from that stillness.

“Let us recommit ourselves to living not just successful lives, but the faithful lives that the grace of God makes possible for all of us. Let us recapture these beautiful, unifying principles of Catholic social teaching. 

“That’s how we can give America a new birth of freedom rightly understood.
That’s how we can sustain the institutions of self-governance. That's how we can transform the public debate.

“At this moment, with these challenges before us, I see a tremendous opportunity for Catholics to lead…to help bring our culture and our country closer to their great moral potential.

“We are uniquely suited for this task, but from the clergy to the laity, we all have to be willing to step up. We all have to be willing to ‘cast out to the deep.’


“Now I do not know what lies in store for me next.

“But I promise you this: I am going to continue thinking about, and talking about, these things.

“Even if it is just as a parishioner in Janesville, Wisconsin at coffee and donuts after Mass, I will be there.

“Thank you for listening this morning.

“I pray that the peace of Christ will be with you, with your families, and with this nation we love, always.”

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #67 on: Sat Jun 16, 2018 - 17:56:38 »
Here is a doozy to contemplate concerning where our nation is headed under increasing influence of Roman Catholic social doctrine and teaching.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2018/02/06/china-is-the-best-implementer-of-catholic-social-doctrine-says-vatican-bishop/

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‘China is the best implementer of Catholic social doctrine,’ says Vatican bishop

“Right now, those who are best implementing the social doctrine of the Church are the Chinese,” a senior Vatican official has said.

Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, praised the Communist state as “extraordinary”, saying: “You do not have shantytowns, you do not have drugs, young people do not take drugs”. Instead, there is a “positive national conscience”.

The bishop told the Spanish-language edition of Vatican Insider that in China “the economy does not dominate politics, as happens in the United States, something Americans themselves would say.”

Bishop Sánchez Sorondo said that China was implementing Pope Francis’s encyclical Laudato Si’ better than many other countries and praised it for defending Paris Climate Accord. “In that, it is assuming a moral leadership that others have abandoned”, he added.

He accused US president Donald Trump of being “manipulated” by global oil firms, and said that, as opposed to those who follow “liberal thought”, the Chinese are working for the greater good of the planet.

The Vatican and China have been holding talks in recent years over the status of the ‘underground’ Church and the appointment of bishops. In November, the Vatican Museums also organised joint exhibitions with China in what was called “diplomacy of art”.

As part of the diplomacy efforts, Bishop Sánchez Sorondo visited the country. “What I found was an extraordinary China,” he said. “What people don’t realise is that the central value in China is work, work, work. There’s no other way, fundamentally it is like St Paul said: he who doesn’t work, doesn’t eat.”

Bishop Sánchez Sorondo concluded by saying that China is “developing well” and now has “many points of agreement” with the Vatican.

“You cannot think that the China of today is the China of [the time of] John Paul II, or Cold War Russia,” he said.


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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #68 on: Sun Jun 17, 2018 - 12:41:03 »
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=9668

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What is the magisterial authority of Catholic Social Teaching (CST), and how is it applied to real world situations? Catholic Social Doctrine is simply the voice of the Church, starting with the Sacred Scripture and the Church Fathers, that lays out the principles of how justice and charity are to be lived out in the world.

The contemporary era of CST began with Pope Leo’s XII’ Rerum Novarum in 1891, and continues up to Pope Benedict XVI’s Caritas in Veritate. Through the social documents, one can see a gradual development that reflects the Church’s study of the times. That is to say, the Church is always looking to update and clarify the basic principles of Social teaching, given new economic situations and technologies, without ever contradicting authoritative past teaching.

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Bull of Pope Boniface VIII promulgated November 18, 1302

Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles [Sgs 6:8] proclaims: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. She is the only one, the chosen of her who bore her,' and she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God [1 Cor 11:3]. In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5]. There had been at the time of the deluge only one ark of Noah, prefiguring the one Church, which ark, having been finished to a single cubit, had only one pilot and guide, i.e., Noah, and we read that, outside of this ark, all that subsisted on the earth was destroyed.

We venerate this Church as one, the Lord having said by the mouth of the prophet: 'Deliver, O God, my soul from the sword and my only one from the hand of the dog.' [Ps 21:20] He has prayed for his soul, that is for himself, heart and body; and this body, that is to say, the Church, He has called one because of the unity of the Spouse, of the faith, of the sacraments, and of the charity of the Church. This is the tunic of the Lord, the seamless tunic, which was not rent but which was cast by lot [Jn 19:23- 24]. Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two heads like a monster; that is, Christ and the Vicar of Christ, Peter and the successor of Peter, since the Lord speaking to Peter Himself said: 'Feed my sheep' [Jn 21:17], meaning, my sheep in general, not these, nor those in particular, whence we understand that He entrusted all to him [Peter].

Therefore, if the Greeks or others should say that they are not confided to Peter and to his successors, they must confess not being the sheep of Christ, since Our Lord says in John 'there is one sheepfold and one shepherd.' We are informed by the texts of the gospels that in this Church and in its power are two swords; namely, the spiritual and the temporal. For when the Apostles say: 'Behold, here are two swords' [Lk 22:38] that is to say, in the Church, since the Apostles were speaking, the Lord did not reply that there were too many, but sufficient. Certainly the one who denies that the temporal sword is in the power of Peter has not listened well to the word of the Lord commanding: 'Put up thy sword into thy scabbard' [Mt 26:52]. Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered for the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest.

However, one sword ought to be subordinated to the other and temporal authority, subjected to spiritual power. For since the Apostle said: 'There is no power except from God and the things that are, are ordained of God' [Rom 13:1-2], but they would not be ordained if one sword were not subordinated to the other and if the inferior one, as it were, were not led upwards by the other.

For, according to the Blessed Dionysius, it is a law of the divinity that the lowest things reach the highest place by intermediaries. Then, according to the order of the universe, all things are not led back to order equally and immediately, but the lowest by the intermediary, and the inferior by the superior. Hence we must recognize the more clearly that spiritual power surpasses in dignity and in nobility any temporal power whatever, as spiritual things surpass the temporal. This we see very clearly also by the payment, benediction, and consecration of the tithes, but the acceptance of power itself and by the government even of things. For with truth as our witness, it belongs to spiritual power to establish the terrestrial power and to pass judgement if it has not been good. Thus is accomplished the prophecy of Jeremias concerning the Church and the ecclesiastical power: 'Behold to-day I have placed you over nations, and over kingdoms' and the rest. Therefore, if the terrestrial power err, it will be judged by the spiritual power; but if a minor spiritual power err, it will be judged by a superior spiritual power; but if the highest power of all err, it can be judged only by God, and not by man, according to the testimony of the Apostle: 'The spiritual man judgeth of all things and he himself is judged by no man' [1 Cor 2:15]. This authority, however, (though it has been given to man and is exercised by man), is not human but rather divine, granted to Peter by a divine word and reaffirmed to him (Peter) and his successors by the One Whom Peter confessed, the Lord saying to Peter himself, 'Whatsoever you shall bind on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven' etc., [Mt 16:19]. Therefore whoever resists this power thus ordained by God, resists the ordinance of God [Rom 13:2], unless he invent like Manicheus two beginnings, which is false and judged by us heretical, since according to the testimony of Moses, it is not in the beginnings but in the beginning that God created heaven and earth [Gen 1:1]. Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.

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Re: Roman politics
« Reply #69 on: Sat Jun 23, 2018 - 10:30:51 »
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-let-catholic-social-teaching-guide-migration-policy-60702

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Pope Francis: Let Catholic social teaching guide migration policy

Vatican City, Mar 8, 2018 / 09:55 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The Church is responsible for encouraging civil leaders to respond to migration on the basis of Catholic social teaching, the Pope told the International Catholic Migration Commission Thursday.

“Together we must encourage countries to coordinate more suitable and effective responses to the challenges posed by issues of migration; and we can do this on the basis of the essential principles of the Church’s social teaching,” Pope Francis said March 8 in the Vatican's Clementine Hall to the members of the comission's plenary council.

“I ask the Holy Spirit to continue to enlighten all of you, as you carry out your vital mission of showing forth God’s merciful love to our migrant brothers and sisters.”

He commented that “your commitment has deepened in response to the inhumane living conditions experienced by millions of our migrant and refugee brothers and sisters in various parts of the world. Just as he did at the time of Israel’s enslavement in Egypt, so too the Lord hears their cry and sees their sufferings.”

The commission was founded in 1951, and the Pope said its works “represent exemplary instances of the four verbs – welcome, defend, promote and integrate – by which I wished to characterize the Church’s pastoral response in the face of migration.”

Francis also said he hopes the commission “will continue to inspire local Churches to do all they can for persons forced to leave their home countries and who, all too often, become victims of dishonesty, violence and abuse of every sort.”

He referred again to Moses' commission from the Lord to free the Hebrews from Egypt, and said that “In order to set free those who today are oppressed, rejected and enslaved, it is essential to promote open and sincere dialogue with government leaders, a dialogue that takes into account people’s actual experiences, sufferings and aspirations, in order to remind everyone once more of his or her responsibilities.”

The Pope commended the compacts on refugees and migrants being drafted at the United Nations as “a privileged forum for implementing such dialogue.”

“We must … commit ourselves to ensuring that, as a sign of shared global responsibility, concrete engagement follows from the words already codified in the aforementioned two agreements,” Pope Francis stated.

Apparently, if you do not share the Pope's shared global responsibility agenda, to bad. His minions are forcing mass immigration upon all especially in Europe and the US with or without the peoples consent. The papacy has never been concerned about the peoples consent. Nations are being flooded with peoples of differing cultures, religion, and political views and or understanding, at the expense of said nations citizens with or without their consent or agreement. These are the politics of the papacy and her illicit relationships with the kings and elites of the earth. Paul Ryan and many other papal minions are carrying out the Pope's agenda in our country just as other papal minions are in Europe and where ever they have enough representation or power to force their global socialistic agenda upon all. Eventually this will include receiving the mark of the beast.

 

     
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