What is.....

[current occupant]

the 'spirit of prophecy'?

[Amo]

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

[current occupant]

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Well then - What is the testimony of Jesus?  What does the Bible say it is?

[davidandme]

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Well then - What is the testimony of Jesus?  What does the Bible say it is?

Testimony of Jesus Christ. Or, “witness of Jesus Christ.” In the Greek this phrase may be understood either as the “testimony” (or “witness”) Christians bear concerning Jesus or as the “testimony” (or “witness”) that originates with Jesus and is revealed to His church through the prophets (see on ch. 1:2). A comparison with ch. 19:10 clearly favors the latter interpretation. There the “testimony of Jesus” is defined as the “spirit of prophecy,” meaning that Jesus is witnessing to the church through the medium of prophecy.
The close relationship between the “testimony of Jesus” and prophecy is further demonstrated by a comparison between chs. 19:10 and 22:9. In ch. 19:10 the angel identifies himself as “thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus,” and in ch. 22:9 as “thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets.” Thus, on the reasonable conclusion that these two expressions of the angel are parallel, those who have the testimony of Jesus are identified with the prophets. Since it is the distinctive work of the prophets to bear messages from Jesus to the people (see on ch. 1:1), the interpretation that the testimony of Jesus refers to the “testimony,” or “witness,” that Jesus bears to the church is strongly supported. Seventh-day Adventists thus interpret the passage and believe that the “remnant” will be distinguished by the manifestation of the gift of prophecy in their midst. The “testimony of Jesus Christ,” they believe, is the witness of Jesus in their midst through the medium of the prophetic gift.

[current occupant]

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Well then - What is the testimony of Jesus?  What does the Bible say it is?

Testimony of Jesus Christ. Or, “witness of Jesus Christ.” In the Greek this phrase may be understood either as the “testimony” (or “witness”) Christians bear concerning Jesus or as the “testimony” (or “witness”) that originates with Jesus and is revealed to His church through the prophets (see on ch. 1:2). A comparison with ch. 19:10 clearly favors the latter interpretation. There the “testimony of Jesus” is defined as the “spirit of prophecy,” meaning that Jesus is witnessing to the church through the medium of prophecy.
The close relationship between the “testimony of Jesus” and prophecy is further demonstrated by a comparison between chs. 19:10 and 22:9. In ch. 19:10 the angel identifies himself as “thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus,” and in ch. 22:9 as “thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets.” Thus, on the reasonable conclusion that these two expressions of the angel are parallel, those who have the testimony of Jesus are identified with the prophets. Since it is the distinctive work of the prophets to bear messages from Jesus to the people (see on ch. 1:1), the interpretation that the testimony of Jesus refers to the “testimony,” or “witness,” that Jesus bears to the church is strongly supported. Seventh-day Adventists thus interpret the passage and believe that the “remnant” will be distinguished by the manifestation of the gift of prophecy in their midst. The “testimony of Jesus Christ,” they believe, is the witness of Jesus in their midst through the medium of the prophetic gift.

Thankyou David.

Which SDA publication is this explanation taken from??

[davidandme]

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Well then - What is the testimony of Jesus?  What does the Bible say it is?

Testimony of Jesus Christ. Or, “witness of Jesus Christ.” In the Greek this phrase may be understood either as the “testimony” (or “witness”) Christians bear concerning Jesus or as the “testimony” (or “witness”) that originates with Jesus and is revealed to His church through the prophets (see on ch. 1:2). A comparison with ch. 19:10 clearly favors the latter interpretation. There the “testimony of Jesus” is defined as the “spirit of prophecy,” meaning that Jesus is witnessing to the church through the medium of prophecy.
The close relationship between the “testimony of Jesus” and prophecy is further demonstrated by a comparison between chs. 19:10 and 22:9. In ch. 19:10 the angel identifies himself as “thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus,” and in ch. 22:9 as “thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets.” Thus, on the reasonable conclusion that these two expressions of the angel are parallel, those who have the testimony of Jesus are identified with the prophets. Since it is the distinctive work of the prophets to bear messages from Jesus to the people (see on ch. 1:1), the interpretation that the testimony of Jesus refers to the “testimony,” or “witness,” that Jesus bears to the church is strongly supported. Seventh-day Adventists thus interpret the passage and believe that the “remnant” will be distinguished by the manifestation of the gift of prophecy in their midst. The “testimony of Jesus Christ,” they believe, is the witness of Jesus in their midst through the medium of the prophetic gift.

Thankyou David.

Which SDA publication is this explanation taken from??

SDA Bible commentary software.  Do you like it?  It also comes in volumes of books.  Very expensive books    

[current occupant]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

[Amo]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Whoever shares the truth concerning the testimony Jesus Christ, His birth, life, teachings, death, resurrection, continuing ministry, and promise to return, to name a few, have the testimony of Jesus Christ.  This of course can be shared in truth, only by those who have received the truth from the Holy Spirit of God, who is the Spirit of truth.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you..................... ....
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

[davidandme]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Anybody that shares the Gospel in Spirit and truth has the testimony of Jesus.  You might be wondering if another prophet like Mrs. White can emerge out of the SDA's?  The answer is:  Yes.

[current occupant]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Whoever shares the truth concerning the testimony Jesus Christ, His birth, life, teachings, death, resurrection, continuing ministry, and promise to return, to name a few, have the testimony of Jesus Christ.  This of course can be shared in truth, only by those who have received the truth from the Holy Spirit of God, who is the Spirit of truth.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you..................... ....
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

AMO -  are you saying that you have the testimony of Jesus?

[current occupant]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Anybody that shares the Gospel in Spirit and truth has the testimony of Jesus.  You might be wondering if another prophet like Mrs. White can emerge out of the SDA's?  The answer is:  Yes.

David - are you saying that you have the testimony of Jesus?

[davidandme]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Anybody that shares the Gospel in Spirit and truth has the testimony of Jesus.  You might be wondering if another prophet like Mrs. White can emerge out of the SDA's?  The answer is:  Yes.

David - are you saying that you have the testimony of Jesus?

Yes! but not always,  I don't know everything.    Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

[current occupant]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Anybody that shares the Gospel in Spirit and truth has the testimony of Jesus.  You might be wondering if another prophet like Mrs. White can emerge out of the SDA's?  The answer is:  Yes.

David - are you saying that you have the testimony of Jesus?

Yes! but not always,  I don't know everything.   


Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

I’m not sure what you mean by "Yes! but not always, I don’t know everything."

It is not possible for a true believer in Jesus Christ to have the testimony of Jesus sometimes and not others. 

What does ‘knowing everything’ have to do with the testimony of Jesus? 

What do you need to “know” in order to have the testimony of Jesus?

Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

I’m not sure what you think being a prophet has to do with the testimony of Jesus. 

Are you a prophet when you feel that you have the testimony of Jesus?

[davidandme]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Anybody that shares the Gospel in Spirit and truth has the testimony of Jesus.  You might be wondering if another prophet like Mrs. White can emerge out of the SDA's?  The answer is:  Yes.

David - are you saying that you have the testimony of Jesus?

Yes! but not always,  I don't know everything.   


Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

I’m not sure what you mean by "Yes! but not always, I don’t know everything."

It is not possible for a true believer in Jesus Christ to have the testimony of Jesus sometimes and not others. 

What does ‘knowing everything’ have to do with the testimony of Jesus? 

What do you need to “know” in order to have the testimony of Jesus?

Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

I’m not sure what you think being a prophet has to do with the testimony of Jesus. 

Are you a prophet when you feel that you have the testimony of Jesus?

As long as my testimony is consistent with the teaching of the Bible then I have the testimony of Jesus.   But I have been wrong before because I don't know everything so in that case I don't always speak for Jesus.

[current occupant]

Who, currently a member of the SDA church, has the testimony of Jesus? 

Is it possible that anyone in your church has it?

David, do you have the testimony of Jesus?   

Anybody that shares the Gospel in Spirit and truth has the testimony of Jesus.  You might be wondering if another prophet like Mrs. White can emerge out of the SDA's?  The answer is:  Yes.

David - are you saying that you have the testimony of Jesus?

Yes! but not always,  I don't know everything.   


Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

I’m not sure what you mean by "Yes! but not always, I don’t know everything."

It is not possible for a true believer in Jesus Christ to have the testimony of Jesus sometimes and not others. 

What does ‘knowing everything’ have to do with the testimony of Jesus? 

What do you need to “know” in order to have the testimony of Jesus?

Current, what is your point with this line of questions?  I will ask you a question.  What is the Biblical definition of a prophet?

I’m not sure what you think being a prophet has to do with the testimony of Jesus. 

Are you a prophet when you feel that you have the testimony of Jesus?

As long as my testimony is consistent with the teaching of the Bible then I have the testimony of Jesus.   But I have been wrong before because I don't know everything so in that case I don't always speak for Jesus.

David, you made some statements, quoted above, in answer to my question “what is the spirit of prophecy?” and I learned that the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus.



Your statements brought several questions and despite your attempts to respond to my questions, I still have not seen answers to the following questions:

1.   What is the testimony of Jesus?  What does the Bible say it is? (What does the Bible describe as being the substance of the testimony of Jesus?)
2.   What does ‘knowing everything’ have to do with the testimony of Jesus?
3.   What do you need to “know” in order to have the testimony of Jesus?
4.   What does being a prophet have to do with the testimony of Jesus?
5.   Are you a prophet when you feel you have the testimony of Jesus?


And I have two more questions:

6.   Are you (Davidandme) claiming to have the spirit of prophecy?
7.   What did Jesus say was the reason for his birth and coming into this world?