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No more kneeling
« on: Wed May 23, 2018 - 14:13:08 »
Supposedly. We'll see.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933971/article/nfl-owners-approve-national-anthem-policy-for-2018

The option for a player is to stay in the locker room until after the Anthem.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #1 on: Wed May 23, 2018 - 17:36:31 »
Supposedly. We'll see.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933971/article/nfl-owners-approve-national-anthem-policy-for-2018

The option for a player is to stay in the locker room until after the Anthem.


Yep, and the teams, themselves, are upset.

I hope it works, but I am done

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« Reply #2 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 10:45:45 »
???????????

So people are being forced to stand for a flag that represents freedom. Talk about oxymoron.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #3 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 11:02:05 »
???????????

So people are being forced to stand for a flag that represents freedom. Talk about oxymoron.

They can stay in the locker room if they don't want to stand for the anthem.  So they still have their freedom.

I am forced at my job to do things to get paid.  So are they.  Not entirely a freedom issue.

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« Reply #4 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 13:23:20 »
Yeh right. For some reason, I don't see you ever kissing your bosses butt. For any reason.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #5 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 13:28:47 »
Yeh right. For some reason, I don't see you ever kissing your bosses butt. For any reason.

I don't.  And fortunately, I don't work at a place that requires that kind of thing. 

I do, however, have to work to get paid.  And part of them being on TV, is not losing viewership.  That means watching what they do on the field.

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« Reply #6 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 13:29:44 »
Freedoms exist, but when you are on the job, then a certain behavior is expected, specially when dealing with the public.

From what I understood from past readings, the NFL is just finally enforcing their policy regarding players' behavior in the eyes of the public while they are on the job. Maybe I got this wrong, but that is what is sounds like.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #7 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 13:42:01 »
???????????

So people are being forced to stand for a flag that represents freedom. Talk about oxymoron.

 ::eatingpopcorn:   ::smile::

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #8 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 15:11:05 »
The new “anthem” rule will NOT regain my viewership. They long ago ago pooped in their mess kit on this deal.

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« Reply #9 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 15:33:12 »
Yeh right. For some reason, I don't see you ever kissing your bosses butt. For any reason.
It is not about kissing butt.  It is about conducting oneself in the presence of the client/customer in a manner that does not defame the business entity.  If you are a plumber and you work for a plumbing service provider and upon repeatedly entering the houses of the client/customers you begin to rant and rave about police brutality and the client/customers object, I would bet that the owner/operator of the plumbing service would have a talk with you.  That talk would likely be "quit the ranting or quit the job".  And that would not only be his right it would be his duty on behalf of the rest of the employees.

The entire no-kneeling political demonstration by football players is nothing more that a whole lot of horse hocky. 

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #10 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 16:05:54 »
Amen on the horse hockey :onhorse:

And a very fitting illustration about the plumber.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 16:36:35 »
The new “anthem” rule will NOT regain my viewership. They long ago ago pooped in their mess kit on this deal.

It hurts me none to not watch the NFL. I've always been a big fan of NCAA Football.

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« Reply #12 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 17:35:31 »
Neither standing nor kneeling is part of their job skills. The players are not paid for that. It is a personal decision, and we should all know by now that you cannot legislate morality.  It's more of a moral decision. But, you are right in the respect that the purse strings dictate more decisions than morals, or rights for that matter. Bottom line is dollars. And politics.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #13 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 17:41:14 »
Being a ball player EMPLOYEE does not exempt them from the decorum that the owner EMPLOYERS require for their “product, the spectacle of the pregame and game itself to interface with the customers. My employer’s expectations are no different for their customers. A stupid presumptious protest offending our customers would never be tolerated and certainly shouldn’t.

4WD’s plumber illustration is spot on to this situation. The owners have every right to legislate behavior for their behavior when before the customers. Morality has nothing to do with. If they want to eat live baby chicks in private on their own time, no problem.

Just change the channel. Pro football sucks.
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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #14 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 17:48:26 »
Neither standing nor kneeling is part of their job skills. The players are not paid for that. It is a personal decision, and we should all know by now that you cannot legislate morality.  It's more of a moral decision. But, you are right in the respect that the purse strings dictate more decisions than morals, or rights for that matter. Bottom line is dollars. And politics.

If you make your company look bad or lose money in a political climate, there will be consequences. 

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« Reply #15 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 19:26:12 »
 That is true. But consequences are the "results" and not always bad. Like Greenwood sang. The flag stands for freedom and you can't take that away. It's a symbol of freedom. Freedom is the big deal, not the flag. Just as the cross is a "symbol" of freedom. Not freedom in itself.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #16 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 20:51:17 »
The players are not paid for that. It is a personal decision, and we should all know by now that you cannot legislate morality.  It's more of a moral decision. But, you are right in the respect that the purse strings dictate more decisions than morals, or rights for that matter. Bottom line is dollars. And politics.

Would you be offended if rather than kneeling during the anthem, they, instead would burn the flag? Just curious...

Public bad moral display decisions affect every single person... man, woman and child.

Pro players step onto a football field and are paid an exorbitant amount of money in a great many cases. That money is not a gift it is a salary for doing their job.

If they offend me, I do have the right to not watch and I am done..... I even put my original terrible towel away.

But.... if it does not bother you, then by all means watch.


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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #17 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 21:25:21 »
Freedom is NOT doing anything younwant, Freedom is having the opportunity to do the right thing. There definitely IS a right thing on this one.

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« Reply #18 on: Fri May 25, 2018 - 23:23:01 »
Well, what is it about the whole kneeling thing that has people upset?

1. That the purpose of the kneeling, the protesting, was a reaction to statistics skewed by the left to make matters look much worse than they really were?
2. That the protesting would have been better done at a police station/precinct or a city hall on their own time (in a city where such a killing took place), rather than on the job at all of the football stadiums, every weekend, with hundreds of thousands of fans having to sit through it when they spent good money just to enjoy a game?
3. That the flag and National Anthem were the things being protested, instead of the protest being focused on the stated object of their complaint?
4. That the owners and managers of the teams could not get control of the players and require them to do the right thing from the beginning?
5. That many good fans of the NFL left that allegiance because the owners and managers were powerless over, or in agreement with, the players?
6. That it took two seasons of games to finally get some control over the situation?
7. Or, worse of all, that many young people were seeing their sports heroes doing this and thinking it is a good thing, and imitating it, and probably will be carrying such an extremely poor example (of both effective protesting and work ethics) into their adulthood?

Don't get me wrong. On point 1, just one unnecessary death at the hands of the police, regardless of the race of the victim, is one too many, and it should be protested. But to protest symbols of the entire country, symbols that represent freedom, is to seemingly place the blame on the entire country and our freedoms, instead of on the cop who is guilty, or even just might be guilty, of killing a person who didn't deserve it.

That is why to this day, the players and their representatives, who are still expressing wonder at why people don't understand their kneeling, are idiots. They wonder why people can't understand that they are not protesting against the flag or the Anthem, even though their protest is aimed at the flag and the Anthem. ::frown::

And I know that people didn't have to go and sit through the stuff, but seriously, when die hard fans spent money to see a game, they want the players focused on the game and not trying to act like social justice warriors, and acting like it in all the wrong ways.

Sorry, the above is just a rant. ::preachit::
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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #19 on: Sat May 26, 2018 - 01:17:48 »
I think the kneeling is stupid.  I'd prefer they stand.

I think their reasoning is skewed.

But I definitely do NOT believe they should be punished in any way for such a mild and peaceful form of protest.  Enforced jingoism is just as unamerican as declining to stand.

If it's going to be a problem, solve it by getting rid of the flag and anthem stuff at sporting events.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #20 on: Sat May 26, 2018 - 07:32:16 »
Well, what is it about the whole kneeling thing that has people upset?

1. That the purpose of the kneeling, the protesting, was a reaction to statistics skewed by the left to make matters look much worse than they really were?
2. That the protesting would have been better done at a police station/precinct or a city hall on their own time (in a city where such a killing took place), rather than on the job at all of the football stadiums, every weekend, with hundreds of thousands of fans having to sit through it when they spent good money just to enjoy a game?
3. That the flag and National Anthem were the things being protested, instead of the protest being focused on the stated object of their complaint?
4. That the owners and managers of the teams could not get control of the players and require them to do the right thing from the beginning?
5. That many good fans of the NFL left that allegiance because the owners and managers were powerless over, or in agreement with, the players?
6. That it took two seasons of games to finally get some control over the situation?
7. Or, worse of all, that many young people were seeing their sports heroes doing this and thinking it is a good thing, and imitating it, and probably will be carrying such an extremely poor example (of both effective protesting and work ethics) into their adulthood?


ALL OF THESE BUT PRIMARILY YOUR # 3.

3. That the flag and National Anthem were the things being protested, instead of the protest being focused on the stated object of their complaint?

#3 ... NO MATTER what their excuse is it is just another way to re-affirm the words of their goddess queen...

 And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. ~ Michele Obama  (Only after she got what she wanted)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYY73RO_egw

She is the end result of being influenced by the likes of  Rev Jeremiah Wright and his GOD DAMN AMERICA comments

Those above are not proud of their country, and they more than disrespect the military ... who many have given their lives... who fought so these idiots would have the opportunity to never grow up and get a real job producing something great for not only themselves, their communities and their country but are
paid millions upon millions of dollars in a large number of cases to provide some "entertainment" for the folks who like the game.

They are actually worse then the left of Hollyweird because we all know what they are about and if we do not like their films and entertainment there are a handful of those who are on the up and up for us to support.

But not in pro football where thousands of people spend abhorent amounts of money to sit in an uncomfortable seat on a freezing cold day for 3 1/2 hour to 4 hours of entertainment watching their favorite teams battle it out toward the Super Bowl.

These __________ idiots have spoiled it for many and no matter what is done now.... the large majority will not be back.



The final nail in the coffin for me came  with the following

In accordance with instituting the anthem policy, the 32 NFL team owners also “reaffirmed their strong commitment to work alongside our players to strengthen our communities and advance social justice.” This commitment will include “extraordinary resources” for programs that “promote positive social change in our communities.” According to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, “We are honored to work with our players to drive progress.”


https://canadafreepress.com/article/nfl-owners-finally-listen-to-the-fans?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nfl_owners_finally_listen_to_the_fans&utm_term=2018-05-26

Who on here... other then people in social work and law enforcement has a job... A JOB that is bent on advancing social justice? At the expense of tearing down this country and disrespecting it entirely?

It is absolutely no wonder that boys todays are growing up to be girls and that girls think they are boys. And boys marry boys and girls marry girls

It is no wonder that Christian values are GONE...... GONE

There is not guidance and no role models for any parent to be proud that their kids look up to

I am going to stop now because if I don't I will be banned here permanently .

One final comment.

Texas Conservative.  I apologize to you.

Over the months I have joked about your wearing short pants and you would understand when you grew up and wore long ones.....

YOU, my friend, are 1000 times the man any of these dumb little boys, unable to think for themselves, will ever be. ... And that is the truth.







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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #21 on: Sat May 26, 2018 - 08:51:48 »
Norrinradd, there is nothing wrong with the flag on and anthem at sporting events. The protestors are in the wrong. And therefore I protest them by changing channels. Enough people do that the NFL feels the crunch like they have. Professional football is NOTHING but an entertainment show with some talented entertainers. If they choose to wander outside the boundary of entertainment, they have a “right” to, but I’m out, which is my right. The NFL doesn’t have an intrinsic right to exist, it only exists because of fan base for it’s entertainment value. When that’s eroded, they may be protesting unemployment.
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« Reply #22 on: Sat May 26, 2018 - 15:10:33 »
Norrinradd, there is nothing wrong with the flaf and anthem at sporting events. The protestors are in the wrong. And therefore I protest them by changing channels. Enough people do that the NFL feels the crunch like they have. Professional football is NOTHING but an entertainment show with some talented entertainers. If they choose to wander outside the boundary of entertainment, they have a “right” to, but I’m out, which is my right. The NFL doesn’t have an intrinsic right to exist, it only exists because of fan base for it’s entertainment value. When that’s eroded, they may be protesting unemployment.

Of course there is nothing "wrong" with the flag and anthem at sporting events.  It's a nice way of acknowledging cultural unity.  But there is also nothing "wrong" with the players peacefully protesting by kneeling.  It would be nice if they participated in standing, as a show of respect and unity, even if they may feel somewhat estranged.  But it would also be nice if audiences were mature enough to not get their panties in a wad over those players who choose NOT to stand.

And viewing the anthem and flag as part of the "entertainment" is a problem in and of itself.

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« Reply #23 on: Sat May 26, 2018 - 15:54:09 »
But there is also nothing "wrong" with the players peacefully protesting by kneeling.
It most certainly is. When they go to England and play they ALL stand in respect of that nation which is MUCH MORE merciless toward black than America~after all, that's where slavery got its birth!

The flag represents America where these players REAP GREAT BENEFITS by being here instead of their homeland Africa, or, wherever~which they could not even come close to enjoying the life they now enjoy anywhere else!  If they are not happy with America even with her shortcomings then leave that's their right.
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But it would also be nice if audiences were mature enough to not get their panties in a wad over those players who choose NOT to stand.
Do not accuse people of not being mature enough to handle such things~such people are godly people for the most part and very thankful for living in a country where there are such bounty and freedom gotten by the price of BLOOD from our forefathers.
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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #24 on: Sat May 26, 2018 - 16:51:38 »
Norrinradd, standing in respect is the only function of the participants, a show of respect. No, kneeling is an orchestrated show of disrespect for our flag and anthem. It is NOT a white vs black thing. It is respect vs disrespect thing. Of the one thing we have in common, our country. As I said before, freedom is about having the opportunity to do the right thing. Kneeling at the anthem only is affecting revenue for the NFL because guys like me, and a lot of us have switched off their entertainment.
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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #25 on: Sun May 27, 2018 - 00:34:58 »
It most certainly is.

You believe it is ("wrong," that is).  I maintain it is not.  In each case, it is a matter of our own subjective consciences, not something objectively provable.


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When they go to England...

This is completely and utterly irrelevant.

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 and play they ALL stand in respect of that nation which is MUCH MORE merciless toward black than America~after all, that's where slavery got its birth!

No one in this thread has mentioned anything about skin color or slavery.  Why bring them in?

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The flag represents America where these players REAP GREAT BENEFITS by being here instead of their homeland Africa, or, wherever~which they could not even come close to enjoying the life they now enjoy anywhere else!  If they are not happy with America even with her shortcomings then leave that's their right. Do not accuse people of not being mature enough to handle such things~such people are godly people for the most part and very thankful for living in a country where there are such bounty and freedom gotten by the price of BLOOD from our forefathers.

I will make any accusations my conscience deems proper, regardless of how they affect the delicate sensibilities of twitchy, touchy snowflakes.

And please try to keep somewhat of a leash on your racist, "Go back to Africa" sentiments.

Norrinradd, standing in respect is the only function of the participaants , a show of respect. No kneeling is an orchestrated show of disrespect for our flag and anthem. It is NOT a white vs black thing.

Somewhat amusingly, it was "Red" who broached the issue of "black" and "white."  Take that part up with him.

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It is respect vs disrespect thing. Of the one thing we have in common, our country. As I said before, freedom is about having the opportunity to do the right thing. Kneeling at the anthem only is affecting revenue for the NFL because guys like me, and a lot of us have switched off their entertainment.

Traditionally this country has recognized that "freedom to do the right thing" means "freedom to follow the dictates of one's own conscience without fear of reprisal."  Your view seems to be that we have the freedom to follow OTHER PEOPLE'S ideas of "right" and wrong"; that is not freedom, it is tyranny and slavery.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #26 on: Sun May 27, 2018 - 07:17:25 »
 Norrinradd on EVERY Story in print and on the air, it ALWAYS comes down to black vs white. i agree it isn’t, but most of those that support kneeling throw this out. The players certainly think it is because I have heard many times that some of the white players want to support the black players in their protest. The rascist view is some of the players hate America and it’s perceived injustice towards blacks and Similar to the stupid FALSE narrative in Furgeson, Missouri and the supposed unjustified killing of Michael Brown, where the ill founded protests basicially burned a town down. It certainly doesn’t have to be a black vs white deal, but it is. And NO, an employer expecting his employees to respect the flag and the anthem in a public sense for the sake of the paying customers is NOT tyranny. It is the right thing. Tyranny would be making me watch these ingrate’s games. I fully support these guys to go seek other career opportunities where the boss might not be so “tyranical”. 
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« Reply #27 on: Sun May 27, 2018 - 16:40:05 »
Norrinradd on EVERY Story in print and on the air, it ALWAYS comes down to black vs white. i agree it isn’t, but most of those that support kneeling throw this out. The players certainly think it is because I have heard many times that some of the white players want to support the black players in their protest. The rascist view is some of the players hate America and it’s perceived injustice towards blacks and Similar to the stupid FALSE narrative in Furgeson, Missouri and the supposed unjustified killing of Michael Brown, where the ill founded protests basicially burned a town down. It certainly doesn’t have to be a black vs white deal, but it is. And NO, an employer expecting his employees to respect the flag and the anthem in a public sense for the sake of the paying customers is NOT tyranny. It is the right thing. Tyranny would be making me watch these ingrate’s games. I fully support these guys to go seek other career opportunities where the boss might not be so “tyranical”. 
 rofl

I truly find this attitude repugnant and disheartening.  It is one many of my conservative friends seem to share, and it is one that has the potential to drive a wedge between us.  (I, of course, am much more libertarian than conservative.)

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #28 on: Sun May 27, 2018 - 17:21:41 »
I find the attitude of the stupid protest repugnant AND ABSOLUTELY disheartening. And it HAS driven a wedge between me and the NFL. Good riddance though. If others ignore the repugnance and embrace the overpaid ingrates, that’s OK too.

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #29 on: Sun May 27, 2018 - 22:33:25 »
To be honest, they're all lucky to still have there jobs.  You may have a legal right to kneel while on the job, but you do not have the right to keep your job if you do kneel on the job. 


Go ahead and go to work and kneel for 8 hours, and let me know if you still have a job the next day. 

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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #30 on: Mon May 28, 2018 - 06:09:28 »
Somewhat amusingly, it was "Red" who broached the issue of "black" and "white."  Take that part up with him.
Let us be clear we all came from Adam and are from ONE family and there's good and bad in all races~yet let me ask you this question: Why do you truly believe all this kneeling came about? Is your memory that short? A black man (well, half) that was raised by a white family, wanted to make a statement to WHITE AMERICA that his people have not been treated fairly (that's being kind with words) by WHITE AMERICA. Pitiful and now he's a hero, to me that's shameful and disgraceful, that such a person is even recognized as a hero. Blacks are NOT mistreated in America any more than any other race of people~they just take offense more and makes more noise than others over an issue when it involves a white person and them. Whites do not act as they do over the same issues. A white female police officer  was run over and killed this past week by four young black males, and the whites said nothing, and neither did the black, YET if that had been a white officer running over a black youth, war would have been on and you know that, and so does everyone else~Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been in front of a camera somewhere calling for the officer to be fired.
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And please try to keep somewhat of a leash on your racist, "Go back to Africa" sentiments.
If they are not happy here then leave~after all that's where they came from did they not. These same men that make the most noise would never want to leave and head back to their native land, and I cannot blame them. I know more of this issue than you do since I have four biracial grandchildren~my son married a black woman who IS very racist, yet she wanted white babies and even said that~and I really cannot blame her. Blacks and whites make beautiful children sometimes~I have four beautiful grandchildren as proof and they are right beside me even as I write this. So, with me it is NOT blacks and whites issues, it right and wrong, period. Kneeling is an act of rebellion and disrespect against our nation, especially so the white man who pays the bills and supplies the money~like it or not, that's the way it is~if one does not like it, then they have a choice to quit and find another job...which I sure it will be for much less. 
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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #31 on: Mon May 28, 2018 - 07:22:56 »
I truly find this attitude repugnant and disheartening.  It is one many of my conservative friends seem to share, and it is one that has the potential to drive a wedge between us.  (I, of course, am much more libertarian than conservative.)

The only wedges being driven between blacks and whites are coming from the blacks. PERIOD.

I have not her so much of an outcry of protest for the "white " woman beaten on the Wildwood NJ beach yesterday, by the police officer who did that.

Why is that?  Do you see any "whites" marching in protest or screaming about this? (Well, some idiot woman's group probably will but it is not because she is white)

And another thing....  just why is it that according to blacks , if you are even only 1/4 black they claim that race ?

But I digress.

It is primarily the  African Americans who have followed along with this idiotic kneeling thing. And the owners are very afraid to buck them because
those players may just walk out.... permanently..... ( I could only hope).... and then where would the teams be.

NO......... I do not support any police leaning heavily on African Americans..... but then two wrongs do not make a right, and the attitudes copped by the African Americans against "anything" of authority IMHO begs for strict discipline.

As to the kneeling.... if you talk to the those who do, they claim it is primarily is about the cop issue..... or they did in the beginning.

IDIOTS

They are too dumb to know that the National Anthem and the American Flag are the very things in support of our military, who fought and died and served and are serving not only this country  but them.... The very people who are kneeling in protest. 

And the irony is........ the large number of African Americans who have served, fought, died and are serving in our military ... they are protesting their very own.

People who did and do so just so THEY... African Americans are able to have the freedom to play a game that does not contribute one thing to the betterment of
themselves ( other then monetarily) and certainly not to society as a whole.

NO............ I am done.

Anyone want to come and watch me burn my terrible towel..... I have an original that now will never be displayed again.....

ALL in thanks to the "African AMericans" who find living in this country such a hardship.


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Re: No more kneeling
« Reply #32 on: Mon May 28, 2018 - 07:37:08 »
Yeah this life long Cowboy fan thanks the kneelers too.......freakin’ idiots. I hope your million dollar income goes up in smoke. All the while your freedom will be defended by the brave individuals you protest by kneeling during the anthem geniuses. Just do the right thing!

If the gravity of this day, Memorial Day could be honestly contemplated and grasped, no one would protest in such a vile and selfish way again.
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