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Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Mon Jan 05, 2004 - 19:17:25
Marc Bulger leads Rams over the Colts, 35-23.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: duckman on Mon Jan 05, 2004 - 19:47:16
I predict that there will be a Super Bowl.

Wait, that's not what you wanted, is it?

Actually, I picked the Patriots because they seem to be the hottest team right now.

Though my heart goes to the Panthers.

And this is the first playoff season in quite awhile where I like and respect several of the teams.

I'd be happy if the Panthers, Titans, Colts, or Packers won.  Of course, the team I picked is not one of my favorites!

Duckman
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: NLuquire on Mon Jan 05, 2004 - 20:22:21
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (duckman @ Jan. 05 2004,7:47)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Though my heart goes to the Panthers.[/quote]
You are clearly a man of upright character and strong moral fiber.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: parson6 on Tue Jan 06, 2004 - 08:30:47
Well, since my beloved Bills won't have the opportunity to lose their fifth Super Bowl . . . I'll go with the Colts over the Packers 31-17.  This is the year Manning shows he can win the big game.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Tue Jan 06, 2004 - 12:01:40
I agree with marc's assessment... The Rams over the Colts. But I think that the score will be more like 38-14.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Son of a Preacher Man on Tue Jan 06, 2004 - 16:37:53
I predict that Pepsi will have a commercial during the Super Bowl.  I further predict that I will miss at least one hour of the game.  I prognosticate that in the end there will be a winner and a loser, but since Michael Jackson isn't involved with halftime I think we all know who the real winners are here--right?
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Tue Jan 06, 2004 - 19:12:26
I'll go out on a limb here and make another prediction... I don't know if I should, but here goes... I predict that there will be at least one beer commericial during the Super Bowl! I know that many of you might be throwing up your hands after reading that and saying, "whoa!"... But let's wait and see.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Son of a Preacher Man on Tue Jan 06, 2004 - 21:24:21
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (James Rondon @ Jan. 06 2004,7:12)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I'll go out on a limb here and make another prediction... I don't know if I should, but here goes... I predict that there will be at least one beer commericial during the Super Bowl! I know that many of you might be throwing up your hands after reading that and saying, "whoa!"... But let's wait and see.[/quote]
Kreskin!  You are alive and well!
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Thu Jan 08, 2004 - 20:36:25
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--][!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]I'll go out on a limb here and make another prediction... I don't know if I should, but here goes... I predict that there will be at least one beer commericial during the Super Bowl! I know that many of you might be throwing up your hands after reading that and saying, "whoa!"... But let's wait and see.[/quote]
Kreskin!  You are alive and well![/quote]
Stop being so formal, my brother... You can call me Kres.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Fri Jan 09, 2004 - 11:23:37
I voted for New England to win, but I think Green Bay could make it to the Super Bowl.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Fri Jan 09, 2004 - 12:25:50
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]JerryBrooke wrote:
...but I think Green Bay could make it to the Super Bowl.[/quote]
Unfortunately, I agree. With the luck/good fortune that they've been having, it's a definite possibility.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Fri Jan 09, 2004 - 16:00:54
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]JerryBrooke wrote:
You don't like Green Bay?

I'm not a fan of them.  But my wife and her family are.[/quote]
No, I don't... Even though I live in Wisconsin. I was privied to the resurrection of cheese-heads and Packer parafanalia a few years ago when they started winning again. Before that, the Packer gear was sitting in discount racks at local stores, and the Packer organization was even considering changing their colors to spark new interest.

Fair-weather-fandom... A big pet peeve of mine. Living in the mecca of it, makes me dislike the Packers even more.

(By the way, interesting new avatar...).
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Sat Jan 10, 2004 - 19:26:46
So much for the Rams!
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sat Jan 10, 2004 - 19:34:13
Man, that was a quick post.  Unless, of course, you  posted it the first time the Rams lost the game. . .  .


Exhausting game.  I am a Rams fan since '75, and my heart has stopped seven times in the past hour.  The Rams seemed on their way to pulling out a great comeback in regulation, with Marshall Faulk leading with his heart, and then Martz funked out like Hooker at Chancellorsville.  I wouldn't be surprised to see George Meade coaching the team next year (well, okay, I would since Meade's been dead for more than a century).  Top-shelf players executing the attack perfectly, and he pulls up and settles for the tying field goal.

Carolina kept doing everything in their power to give the game away, but the Rams would not take advantage.  In the end, physical and mental exhaustion ruled, and One Big Play did them in.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Sat Jan 10, 2004 - 19:49:22
Actually, marc, I posted it right after the winning touchdown. As far as Carolina trying to give the game away... Agreed.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Sun Jan 11, 2004 - 19:27:02
Guess the Packers couldn't do it.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sun Jan 11, 2004 - 19:32:25
And if I were an Eagles fan, I would be happy that they at least took a couple of shots at the end zone before kicking the tying field goal in regulation instead of simply running the clock down.

My new prediction:  Colts 30, Eagles 17 (although getting past the Patriots will be tough).
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Mere Nick on Sun Jan 11, 2004 - 22:22:02
Seems the Panthers have deep spiritual problems with putting a game away before the last minute.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Fri Jan 16, 2004 - 23:53:10
I'm pulling for the colts, but they've got big problems to overcome.  A dome team, playing in sub-zero weather, against the game's premier defensive mind. . . .

This one could be interesting.

I'm also finding myself surprisingly interested in the Eagles.  I liked Donovan (not to certain ESPN announcers:  his name is not Dunovan) McNabb at Syracuse, and have always thought he was capable of leading a team to a Super Bowl win.  This could be the year.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Richard on Sat Jan 17, 2004 - 05:16:05
Go Vikings!!!!!!!



What do you mean they're out of it?


They're not out as long as there's hope!



Sorry, momentary brain freeze.  I need to move to warmer weather. ::taz::  ::taz::
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sat Jan 17, 2004 - 09:10:17
. . . . in the above message, "not to certain espn announcers" should read "note to certain espn announcers". .    :lookaround:
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Sat Jan 17, 2004 - 20:48:42
Now that the field has narrowed to four, I would like to see New England win again. In fact, considering who is left, I think that they are the favorites.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sun Jan 18, 2004 - 14:09:25
It's up to 31 degrees in New England, although it's still snowing, so the weather advantage won't be quite as bad as I expected.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Sun Jan 18, 2004 - 19:50:43
New England won.  Manning didn't have a good day.  It may prove true that defense wins championships, and Dungy will have a lot of work to do on his defense.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sun Jan 18, 2004 - 19:59:23
New England, at least, is an interesting defensive-minded team, as opposed to the deadly boring Baltimore Ravens of three years back.

Now if Philly can come back against Carolina, we'll at least have a watchable Super Bowl.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Sun Jan 18, 2004 - 20:08:52
I don't know about Philadelphia.  I think they are over-rated.  I think Carolina could even surprise New England.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Sun Jan 18, 2004 - 20:45:25
It looks like Superbowl 38 is set.

New England vs. Carolina
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sun Jan 18, 2004 - 20:49:20
Yeah.  I have mixed feelings.  Carolina doesn't strike me as a particularly sharp team.  Defense does the job, but I can think of about twenty teams I'd rather watch play.  

New England, though, I like. And I think it would be enjoyable to see Tom Brady get a second ring to answer all of those who complained and called him a flash in the pan when New England traded Drew Bledsoe.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Mere Nick on Mon Jan 19, 2004 - 09:53:59
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (marc @ Jan. 18 2004,8:49)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Yeah.  I have mixed feelings.  Carolina doesn't strike me as a particularly sharp team.  Defense does the job, but I can think of about twenty teams I'd rather watch play.  

New England, though, I like. And I think it would be enjoyable to see Tom Brady get a second ring to answer all of those who complained and called him a flash in the pan when New England traded Drew Bledsoe.[/quote]
I expected both the Rams and the Eagles to pulverize my beloved Panthers.  I just didn't expect the Panthers to go from 1-15 to the Super Bowl so quick.  Maybe the Patriots will take them lightly, too.  If not, I'm afraid the Patriots' players will have Panther pelts hanging on their den walls.

Think about it.  Two teams are going to walk that aisle and step in to the rectangled-circle.  Being called the underdog again only helps the Panthers to be the team that walks out dukes in air.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: haya on Wed Jan 21, 2004 - 12:23:03
Uh-oh, there's a Panthers fan right above me.... Dare I post?

GO PATRIOTS!
I'm celebratin' already. :disco:
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: samloveall on Wed Jan 21, 2004 - 12:49:39
The nature of the Panthers' win over Philly was shown in one play -- the DeShaun Foster touchdown.  One guy hits him head on, he keeps going.  Two more hit him, he keeps going.  Another hits him, he keeps going, and puts the ball over the goal line.

It was as if the Panthers were saying, "We WILL win today."  And the Eagles were replying, "Ok."

Expect more against the Patriots.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Thu Jan 29, 2004 - 20:07:17
Patriots by 27. :darthvader:
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Fri Jan 30, 2004 - 07:40:52
I think its gonna be a close game.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Skip on Fri Jan 30, 2004 - 08:58:53
Is it just me, or did the week off deflate the playoff atmosphere and excitement? IMO, ditch the week off...

I'm a "follow football" person rather than a "fan", but in spite of the fact that I could care less for any of the final four teams, the Panthers pulled me in with two road upsets in two weeks.

But nothing, NOTHING at all football on Sunday really cooled off the simmering excitement.

--Skip
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: James Rondon on Fri Jan 30, 2004 - 13:36:51
There's a football game this Sunday?
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: duckman on Fri Jan 30, 2004 - 14:34:27
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Patriots by 27. :darthvader:[/quote]
The Panthers style of football does not lend itself to them being blown out.  So I think the Patriots by 27 is a stretch.

The Panthers five losses were by 20, 4, 4, 9, and 6 points (the last in overtime) for an average loss of 8.6 points.  Throw out their first loss, and it's 5.75 points per loss.

I picked the Patriots when this thread started, and still think they will win.  But living only an hour from Charlotte has me pulling hard for the Panthers.  They've certainly surprised and impressed me, especially with the way they handled the Eagles.

Go Panthers, and may the best commerial win!

Duckman
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Fri Jan 30, 2004 - 19:52:15
I don't know; I see a complete unravelling in the tradition of the mid 80's to early 90's.  I keep thinking of Super Bowl XX--Bears 46, Pats 10, and a recent one, XXXV--Ravens 34, Giants 7 (although I don't expect the game to be as boring as that one--the worst Super Bowl ever played).
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Son of a Preacher Man on Fri Jan 30, 2004 - 22:27:24
I predict I'll be watching the game in Hi-Def!!!!!  :clap:

Well... the first quarter and the second half anyway.

So... ya' "better not be lookin' at my Janet" while I'm gone.  :noworries:
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Sun Feb 01, 2004 - 21:30:46
What'd I tell ya.  An absolute blowout. :doh:

Also, a note to Samuel L. Jackson:  Yes I have been to French Lick, Indiana.  

oh, and does anyone know whether Justin Timberlake has been arrested yet? ???
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: samloveall on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 07:19:04
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]So... ya' "better not be lookin' at my Janet" while I'm gone.[/quote]

I guess a whole lot of people were looking at your Janet.  Not me.  The people at the adult side of our super bowl party spent halftime getting to know a youth ministry candidate.



Would have liked a different ending.  But what a game!  one of the best ever.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: boringoldguy on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 08:23:01
The game was great.  Half-time was more like a circus freakshow.   Do people really enjoy that drek?
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 08:34:01
Am I the only one who thinks Janet looks like Michael with breasts?
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: charlie on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 08:48:57
Speaking of Janet's breasts...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/02/superbowl.jackson/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/02/superbowl.jackson/index.html)

All I can say is, yeah right!
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Son of a Preacher Man on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 11:16:06
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (Son of a Preacher Man @ Jan. 30 2004,10:27)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]So... ya' "better not be lookin' at my Janet" while I'm gone.  :noworries:[/quote]
It's just a line from a movie.  How prophetic am I?
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Emily on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 13:30:07
Imagine this scenario....
A group of christians and their families bring pot luck to the church building to watch the super bowl as a "church family" on the big screen.
There are kids ranging from 4-19. Adult men and women excitedly await the big game while they munch on nachos and Pepsi.  The beginning was not too bad.  The tribute to the astronauts was wholesome. Good family message. Some of the other pregame entertainment was questionable, but nothing to get too alarmed about...a little flirtatious and rebellious behavior is to be expected, right?

Then the long awaited halftime show....suddenly men and women in our little church group start to blush and are speechless. This is a gathering of Christians in a church building...not the local bar.  I felt defiled and betrayed as did many others. How dare they! This is an American tradition not a promo for Hustler magazine!  How dare they presume to throw this filth at the ordinary American public! Something in the American way was killed last night, and I doubt it will ever be revived.

Personally I liked the game itself, very exciting.  But I may not watch next year if there is any indication that the sort of trash they had this year at half time will be presented again. It was nothing short of soft porn. The thing is that families were watching this with their small kids (and not so small kids).  Our church family was watching it.  A half time show with males scantily dressed in speedos, garter belts, fake bras, whips, chains, etc., women dressed in similar ways with a few added details, simulating lesbian and heterosexual sex, and exposed breasts (NOT an accident...very well planned), is not the sort of things most parents want to view with their children or with other Christians for that matter.  

The news focused on Janet's breast incident, which was bad, but what about the rest of her act?  It was repulsive, but people just seem to close their eyes to it.  But then, what do you expect from a halftime show put on by MTV?  Have you all watched that station lately?  We wonder why our kids get pregnant at 14 and sometimes begin to look like hookers, Goths, and gangsters before our very eyes before they even reach their teens. Where do they learn it? MTV, movies, television.  My friend's six year old told her mom recently that she wanted a sexy dress.  What do you say to a six year old?  They want to look like Brittany.  There is very little control and monitoring in most homes anymore.  I know; I see it in the schools everyday.  If people do not wake up and do something (which personally I do not think there is anything that can be done now), we will totally lose control of all morality left in this country. Sorry to be so negative, but this was a real shock to me and it takes a lot to shock me these days.
Emily
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: boringoldguy on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 13:45:05
Emily,

Agreed.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: coachk on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 15:20:10
the first problem with this halftime show (which I didn't watch at all) is that none of these people performing seem to have any real talent, at least from what I've observed in the past.  they just seem to be pretty faces (with Kid Rock being the obvious exception) and so the only way to hide their lack of ability is to do something "shocking".
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Emily on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 16:37:49
Speaking of Kid Rock, our local news radio station read the lyrics to the song he "sang" which you could not really understand too well last night. The words were awful...I will not even print them. In addition to swear words, there was frequent reference to crackheads and his methadone friends and other drug related terms. There was reference to IRS and other "bast....
I have no idea about some of the lyrics from the other performers. The ones from Kid Rock was from WTOP commentary out of DC. This is pathetic, people. Are we going to continue to let this happen? Unfortunately I think so. Hopefully I am just being a pessimist. OK, I will quit ranting now.
Em
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Jim Abb on Mon Feb 02, 2004 - 19:27:19
Well.... the game was terrific. I didn't know what happened at halftime. I turned the sound off. I'm not a fan of any of the performers last night (now if it were Dave Mathews or Counting Crows I would have watched). And instead did some reading, Luke chapter one actually. I didn't find out until I turned the radio on this morning. Of course, I turned the sound off for the pregame stuff too. The one time I turned it on they were playing country music. I'm not sure which was worse Janet or country (just kidding...sort of ;) ).
Jim
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: duckman on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 05:27:19
The Super Bowl game itself was indeed super.  My Panthers lost, but they played a great 2 1/4 quarters in doing so (let's not even talk about the first 1 3/4 quarters of the game).

I agree with everyone about the halftime show - it was deplorable.  The lyrics could not be understood (which is probably a good thing, actually).  I saw crotch grabbing, a breast, and a bunch of people (can you believe some articles actuall call them artists?) with little to no musical talent.  And Kid Rock in an American flag smock (or whatever you call it) was disgusting.

But I also saw some of the pregame show, and Josh Groban sang a song during the remembrance of the Columbia tradgedy.  I was very moved.  There is a man with talent that would have moved me if the song had not had anything to do with the Columbia disaster.  And I also thought Beyonce Knowles (I admit she can become trashy sometimes) did a very good job of singing the National Anthem.

So, now what do we do?  Can anything be done to let the network and the NFL know how we feel?  Do I just continue to live my life as God directs me and hope that I can influence others by that life?  Or should I be doing more, and if so, what?

Sometimes I'm at a loss when I see the way our culture has turned to no culture.

Duckman
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 07:41:36
I have no illusions that CBS cares what I think--not being a part of the rhythm nation (I didn't realize anyone was anymore), I am not in a desirable demographic--but I do have some hope that there will be enough outcry over this that it wil not be repeated soon.  Beyond the basic spectical of rampant vulgarity on what should be the most family-friendly program of the year, we have Kid Rock's drug references and little Justin's verbal and physical endorsement of sexual violence.

There was enough of a mix of low elements to outrage everyone whose mind MTV hasn't already turned to mush.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: charlie on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 09:47:58
Don't forget Nellie's song, the main lines of which are: "it's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes" timed perfectly with the dancers ripping off their outer clothes (not all of them, as the song demands) revealing skimpier clothes.

I was with a church group watching this filth. I can sum up my feelings in one word: disappointed. Before Sunday, I believed that the church is the church and the world is the world and you can't expect much from the world in terms of visible morality. Now, I'm wondering just what the church can and should do to keep this garbage from happening again. I know I probably sound like an angry New Yorker on 9-12-01, but seriously, I feel like I've been assaulted by a cunning, sinister, and deceptive army of people and I'm getting a little tired of it. I know I can exercise my right to change the channel any time I want, but come on, this is the Super Bowl. This is supposed to be the best few hours of entertainment in the whole year. Is this our best? How does that affect our witness as a supposedly Christian nation? Or at least a moral one? We have told the world that we are morally bankrupt, socially degenerate, reprobate, decadent, self-loathing, opulent and apathetic. If that had been done in a public area near children, the culprits would be arrested immediately for public indecency and exposing one's self in front of children. Kids were watching. Millions of them.

Now that I think about it, MTV, the performers and producers of that show should be investigated, arrested and tried for lewd behavior. There's the first amendment, and then there's criminal acts of voyeurism. Can I say it just one more time: CHILDREN WERE WATCHING! They knew this! My God, what kind of people do this?!
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: charlie on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 09:53:49
That cnn.com link I put on the previous page now points to a different story. Now, Jackson is admitting the "costume reveal" and MTV is denying knowledge of it. Investigations are forthcoming. I think the religious right needs to sit this one out and just let the concerned moms and dads of America carry the torch.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: memmy on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 09:59:34
I agree and don't see a huge difference in the charges against Michael Jackson and what his sister did to the american public.

You can write to the FCC, the network and the sponsors too, if you wish to.

Maybe this is just what it took for people to finally speak up as to what is being shoved down our throats on the TV screen about any time of day you so chose to flip it on.

One more reason I stay in front of this screen instead of the one in my living room.

Guess it's just one more reason to call it the "boob" tube, as my mom chose to call it. Only this time, it literally turned into one. (hope that was ok to say)  :blush:

Memmy :)
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Emily on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 10:49:42
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (charlie @ Feb. 03 2004,10:47)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Don't forget Nellie's song, the main lines of which are: "it's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes" timed perfectly with the dancers ripping off their outer clothes (not all of them, as the song demands) revealing skimpier clothes.

I was with a church group watching this filth. I can sum up my feelings in one word: disappointed. Before Sunday, I believed that the church is the church and the world is the world and you can't expect much from the world in terms of visible morality. Now, I'm wondering just what the church can and should do to keep this garbage from happening again. I know I probably sound like an angry New Yorker on 9-12-01, but seriously, I feel like I've been assaulted by a cunning, sinister, and deceptive army of people and I'm getting a little tired of it. I know I can exercise my right to change the channel any time I want, but come on, this is the Super Bowl. This is supposed to be the best few hours of entertainment in the whole year. Is this our best? How does that affect our witness as a supposedly Christian nation? Or at least a moral one? We have told the world that we are morally bankrupt, socially degenerate, reprobate, decadent, self-loathing, opulent and apathetic. If that had been done in a public area near children, the culprits would be arrested immediately for public indecency and exposing one's self in front of children. Kids were watching. Millions of them.

Now that I think about it, MTV, the performers and producers of that show should be investigated, arrested and tried for lewd behavior. There's the first amendment, and then there's criminal acts of voyeurism. Can I say it just one more time: CHILDREN WERE WATCHING! They knew this! My God, what kind of people do this?![/quote]
Charlie,
As I said in my previous post, at least half our church was watching it as a "family" fun night.  We have been spiritually raped by MTV, CBS, and the others who promoted this filth. There is no other way to describe it.  
Personally, I have a very negative opinion that anything will do any good at all. I think it is too late.  It will take something really major...worse than 9-11 to wake our country up. Hopefully, I am wrong and people will rally to the cause and change things...but I doubt anything we do will help that much. Like Marc said, I do not kid myself that CBS or MTV give a hoot what I or evangelical Christians think.
For what it's worth, here is an article by AFA and a link to protest if you have the energy.
Em
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Here is the article...

Just when you think TV can't sink any lower, it does.

During the halftime program for the Super Bowl, CBS showed singer Justin Timberlake tearing off singer Janet Jackson’s top, exposing her breast.

The two singers were performing "Rock Your Body," a risqué duet to end the half time show. The final lyric of the song goes, "Going to have you naked by the end of this song."

In addition, the halftime show included:

*Janet Jackson grabbing her breasts
*Sean P. Diddy repeatedly fondling his crotch
*Striptease cheerleaders
*Gyrating transvestites
*Simulated lesbian sex
*Jackson and Timberlake groping each other

According to the Drudge Report, top CBS executives approved the Jackson exposure prior to the game. "The decision to go forward went to the very top of the network," Drudge quoted a well-placed source in New York. Jackson and Timberlake got the ok from CBS for their performance.

In addition, an ad for Bud Lite showed a talking chimp, blatantly asking his owner "babe" if she would like to go upstairs to have sex with him.

Here is what you can do to put a stop on this kind of indecent, profane, vulgar and tasteless programming.

TAKE ACTION

(1). Enter your zip code above and click "Go" to take action to send an email to the FCC, your Representative and two Senators.

(2) File A Formal Complaint with the FCC.

(3) CALL the FCC toll free at 1-888-225-5322 to advise that you are mailing an official indecency complaint about Jackson's exposure during the Super Bowl halftime show.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: christianne on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 10:56:37
Here are some contacts if anyone is interested:

Contact Information for the NFL and CBS
 CBS Contact Information
Main Number: (212) 975-4321
Online: Send CBS Feedback Online

Mailing Information:
Mel Karmazin
President and COO
Viacom
1515 Broadway
New York, NY 10036


        NFL Contact Information
Offices of the NFL
Phone: 212-450-2000
Email: sbcomments@nfl.com[/a]

Mailing Information:
Mr. Paul J. Tagliabue
Commissioner
National Football League
280 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10017
 

Also, here is an email I received with more info on what we can all do:


[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Just when you think TV can't sink any lower, it does.

During the halftime program for the Super Bowl, CBS showed singer Justin Timberlake tearing off singer Janet Jackson’s top, exposing her breast.

The two singers were performing "Rock Your Body," a risqué duet to end the half time show. The final lyric of the song goes, "Going to have you naked by the end of this song."

In addition, the halftime show included:


Janet Jackson grabbing her breasts

Sean P. Diddy repeatedly fondling his crotch

Striptease cheerleaders

Gyrating transvestites

Simulated lesbian sex

Jackson and Timberlake groping each other
According to the Drudge Report, top CBS executives approved the Jackson exposure prior to the game. "The decision to go forward went to the very top of the network," Drudge quoted a well-placed source in New York. Jackson and Timberlake got the ok from CBS for their performance.

In addition, an ad for Bud Lite showed a talking chimp, blatantly asking his owner "babe" if she would like to go upstairs to have sex with him.

Here is what you can do to put a stop on this kind of indecent, profane, vulgar and tasteless programming.

TAKE ACTION


Send an email to the FCC, your Representative and two Senators.


File A Formal Complaint with the FCC.

[a href=\"http://www.afa.net/activism/fcccomplaint.asp]http://www.afa.net/activism/fcccomplaint.asp (http://mailto:sbcomments@nfl.com\")


CALL the FCC toll free at 1-888-225-5322 to advise that you are mailing an official indecency complaint about Jackson's exposure during the Super Bowl halftime show.
Please forward this email to at least one friend or family member by clicking "Tell A Friend" button below.

Sincerely,

Donald E. Wildmon, Chairman
OneMillionMoms.com
[/quote]
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: christianne on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 10:58:58
Sorry, Emily:

We must have been posting at the same time.

Great minds think alike, right? :noddingsmiley:
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: boringoldguy on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 11:07:41
Making these complaints is a good thing to do.

But if you want to take it one step further, there's something else you can do.

I refused to have cable tv in my house until my children were grown because I didn't want them watching MTV.    The kids would say  "well get cable and then block MTV" and my response was that i wasn't about to pay for something and then pay extra not to get it.  So they did without cable, and it didn't hurt them.

You might consider calling up your cable network and cancelling your service until they dump MTV from the service.
That might be a long wait, but it might be a good idea.

In addition, later in the year, there will be a national "no TV" week.   As the date approaches, I'll fill you in a bit more.
I encourage anybody who is willing to turn the TV off and leave it off to take part.    When my wife and I did it, by the end of the week we didn't want to turn the thing on again;  we didn't until our daughter came home from school.   Nearly a month of reading, conversation and silence.   It was wonderful.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: charlie on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 11:51:39
My cable provider doesn't give us MTV, so luckily I don't have to pay for the service of not having it.

However, I can program my TV to skip channels in the normal up-down scan, so that would be easy enough. Of course, you could just select the channel number, if you wanted. I don't know if it can automatically block a specific channel.

Thanks for the AFA links. I'd never heard of them before.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Bon Voyage on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 16:41:13
Digital Satellite Systems allow the user to block channels of their choosings or block programs based on ratings.  Or block certain times the satellite can be watched.

The user chooses a 4 digit password and can effectively get rid of all channels, programs, etc, they don't like.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Jim Abb on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 18:23:13
One word of caution on the Drudge report that CBS knew what was going to happen. When they have a name to go with that insider revelation I will accept it, until  then CBS is innocent until proven guilty. All the other parties involved have said that CBS had no knowledge of the incident. This is the type of thing that gets repeated by all the talking heads and becomes defacto truth with no evidence to support it.
As for CBS's choice of half-time entertainment in general, yeah, you can slam them for that! Pretty bad decision for a Republican network.
Jim
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Tue Feb 03, 2004 - 20:35:02
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote [/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]Thanks for the AFA links. I'd never heard of them before.[/quote]
Don Wildmon can be a bit loopy (I've talked to him on the phone before back when I worked in Christian radio), and sometimes completely misses the point of what he's watching, but he does have an effective organization that has made important people sit up and listen on occasion.

btw, you notice nobody's talking about the ppv "lingerie bowl"?
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: Emily on Wed Feb 11, 2004 - 19:38:41
[!--QuoteBegin--][/span][table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" width=\"95%\" cellpadding=\"3\" cellspacing=\"1\"][tr][td]Quote (Jim Abb @ Feb. 03 2004,7:23)[/td][/tr][tr][td id=\"QUOTE\"][!--QuoteEBegin--]One word of caution on the Drudge report that CBS knew what was going to happen. When they have a name to go with that insider revelation I will accept it, until  then CBS is innocent until proven guilty. All the other parties involved have said that CBS had no knowledge of the incident. This is the type of thing that gets repeated by all the talking heads and becomes defacto truth with no evidence to support it.
As for CBS's choice of half-time entertainment in general, yeah, you can slam them for that! Pretty bad decision for a Republican network.
Jim[/quote]
Jim and Marc,
I meant to get back to you sooner to answer your posts, but I have been so busy trying to catch up with work after missing so much with the snow and ice.  I do not know anything about the AFA nor its reputation except that the website article was given to me, and it seemed pretty right on in its concern for the Superbowl halftime show.  You are right about passing on information without having a name to go with it, and for that I apologize. I nor anyone other than those close to the situation know for sure what CBS knew or didn't know. Hopefully, some good will come from all the negative publicity, and major national events in the future will be more family oriented. I will be more careful in the future about the information that I post second hand.
Em
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: marc on Wed Feb 11, 2004 - 20:23:35
I wasn't really meaning to be negative regarding the AFA.  Wildmon does a good job on these issues--it's just that sometimes he over-reaches.  I used to read his reports regularly, and about half would be on target and half would be innaccurate.  He has such a good organization, though, that good does at times come from what he does.
Title: Super Bowl Predictions
Post by: spurly on Thu Mar 25, 2004 - 23:21:42
I'm going out on a limb and picking the Patriots to win the 2004 Super Bowl.

Kevin