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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2009, 07:42:00 AM »
We should all be kept out of heaven.  None of us deserves it.  No not one.  Whether someone is a fan of sports or not is probably the least of our worries.

Thank God for His grace.
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2009, 07:56:01 PM »
Yes, thank God for his grace; but remember that his grace is a free gift which one must explicitly accept in order to have it apply to him/her.  This means we cannot experience God's grace and worship any idol of any kind.
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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2009, 04:10:27 PM »
Quote from: Ewigkeit on June 29, 2009, 07:56:01 PM
Yes, thank God for his grace; but remember that his grace is a free gift which one must explicitly accept in order to have it apply to him/her.  This means we cannot experience God's grace and worship any idol of any kind.
God says:   Unless you are co-workers with Him, in the Salvation process...Grace, is receieved in vain.
 
2 Corinthians  6:1   We then, [as] workers together [with him], beseech [you] also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain. 
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« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2009, 07:57:07 PM »

I have just read through this thread and been told of all the things not to do to get to heaven from a SDA that is not even assured he is going to heaven. SDA's cannot obey the law, including the Sabbath they boast in, but 3AM comes here attempting to extend the law to every aspect of life making SDA doctrines just look silly. He wants us to follow laws he cannot follow himself, and if you do follow them 3AM; you tell me and we may be able to discern your righteousness together.

Paul withstood Peter to the face for such things you are preaching, and it seems most here have done the same with your message. Wake up dear brother. Galatians 4:16  Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
 
Colossians 2:20  "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21  (Touch not; taste not; handle not;" Dear 3AM, you are subjecting yourself to doctrines of men; not God.
 
You brag in what you don't do as the justification of getting into heaven; that equates to becoming justified by your works and we read in Galatians 5:4: "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." This does not say you fall from salvation, but God can only work in us by grace, for if we approach Him not recognizing Jesus' shed blood as our only justification, our works of righteousness are as filthy rags to God; He calls it self-righteousness.

You have come here judging us much like the false brethren did in Galatians 2:4: "And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage." I am not calling you a false brother, but you are teaching wrong doctrine of men.

May God show you his grace, liberty, and salvation all provided by Him when His Son was offered up for us all, and we partake of that when we believe. God bless you 3AM in the blessed name of Jesus - larry2
 

 
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« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2009, 09:32:29 AM »
Quote from: larry2 on July 04, 2009, 07:57:07 PM

I have just read through this thread and been told of all the things not to do to get to heaven from a SDA that is not even assured he is going to heaven.
Ephesians   6:12   For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 

God's principles versus satanic principles.....is the issue.

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SDA's cannot obey the law, including the Sabbath they boast in,
IF you want to call God a Liar....that is your problem, that you will have to answer to God for.


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but 3AM comes here attempting to extend the law to every aspect of life making SDA doctrines just look silly. He wants us to follow laws he cannot follow himself, and if you do follow them 3AM; you tell me and we may be able to discern your righteousness together.
I stand by what God says here......

1 John  2:15   Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 

  2:16   For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 

  2:17   And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 
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« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2009, 09:47:43 AM »

Dear 3AM, like so many before you, your claim to heaven is in keeping the law; do you do so? Is it a hard thing for SDA's to answer that question? Or do you just want to see the rest of us follow a law?

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« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2009, 02:56:37 PM »
3AM should take time out to thoroughly read Galatians.

My point here is that sports are wonderful entertainment and if you can participate, good exercise; however, so many people have made sports an object of worship...an idol, if you please; and that would certainly block the road to experiencing God's grace..."Thou shalt worship God, and him only shalt thou worship."
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« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2009, 09:20:22 PM »
Quote from: Ewigkeit on July 07, 2009, 02:56:37 PM
3AM should take time out to thoroughly read Galatians.

My point here is that sports are wonderful entertainment and if you can participate, good exercise; however, so many people have made sports an object of worship...an idol, if you please; and that would certainly block the road to experiencing God's grace..."Thou shalt worship God, and him only shalt thou worship."

With the way the teams I tend to pull for play, it is very doubtful anyone would confuse them with deity.
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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2009, 09:47:00 PM »
Probably not; however, sports as a totality has been deified to a most shameful extent all over the world, and some sports "icons" have gotten away with some pretty heinous crimes simply because they were sports heroes.  Consider, e.g., the pro football player who got 30 days for manslaughter.
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« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2009, 02:43:43 PM »
Quote from: DCR on June 29, 2009, 07:42:00 AM
We should all be kept out of heaven.  None of us deserves it.  No not one.  Whether someone is a fan of sports or not is probably the least of our worries.

Thank God for His grace.
The point was and is....that the principles of sports, are against Christian principles.

The two CANNOT be combined.....it is either Jesus Christ...or sports, as ones chosen God.
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« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2009, 10:48:16 AM »
Quote from: 3AM on July 31, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
Quote from: DCR on June 29, 2009, 07:42:00 AM
We should all be kept out of heaven.  None of us deserves it.  No not one.  Whether someone is a fan of sports or not is probably the least of our worries.

Thank God for His grace.
The point was and is....that the principles of sports, are against Christian principles.

The Bible disagrees.  Notice how even the Apostle Paul uses sports analogies to illustrate Christians principles.

1 Corinthians 9
 24Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.  25Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. 26Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. 27No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.


Quote from: 3AM on July 31, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
The two CANNOT be combined.....it is either Jesus Christ...or sports, as ones chosen God.

This is a false exclusive choice.
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« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2009, 12:29:49 PM »
Quote from: marc on May 16, 2009, 05:55:51 PM
No, we just think you're being rather silly, if you want to know the truth.

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« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2009, 08:03:02 PM »
Sports activies undermines Christian principles...IF... a person knows what Christian principles are in the first place.

Sports, activies glorifies self......something that God does NOT agree with.
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« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2009, 08:15:42 PM »
Quote from: 3AM on September 23, 2009, 08:03:02 PM
Sports activies undermines Christian principles...IF... a person knows what Christian principles are in the first place.

Sports, activies glorifies self......something that God does NOT agree with.

Like weightlifting.
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« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2009, 09:25:45 PM »
Quote from: Gary on September 23, 2009, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: 3AM on September 23, 2009, 08:03:02 PM
Sports activies undermines Christian principles...IF... a person knows what Christian principles are in the first place.

Sports, activies glorifies self......something that God does NOT agree with.

Like weightlifting.
I lift weights to strenthen a bad back.

If I don't lift, I hurt.

As long as the muscles are strong, I'm free of pain.
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