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« on: November 18, 2009, 02:49:31 PM »

I think there is a misunderstanding about sowing and reaping. Though God blesses us even when we don't deserve it, if we really want God to overflow in our lives and His power to flow in and through us, then just do what He says. Obey Him!

Sowing and reaping isn't just about money, but about every day living. Galatians 6:7 is the law that governs our moral and spiritual lives, whether we believe that or not. However, I fear that many of us live unrighteously and without discipline, but when we're in trouble financially, we're told that if we sow a certain amount of money, then our trouble will be over.

Friends, this is not the heart of God. 1 Corinthians 16:14 tells us that let all that we do be in with love. It seems that when it comes to wanting our financial troubles to be over, we place more confidence in the amount of what we give of our money more so then what we do in God, when He is the one who gives us power to get wealth and to be able to enjoy all things at all!

Furthermore, even if there is a financial breakthrough and circumstances change, can the same be said in us spiritually? Otherwise, why ask God to bless you financially if there is no change in you spiritually?




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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 02:55:17 PM »

I would also like to add that giving is a grace. Its an honor and a priviledge to serve God in our giving. So any giving that we do, let it be done because we love God and want people to be blessed, not so we can get something back in return. 

The more I read and study diligently the bible, the more I'm learning just what liberty is and exactly what Jesus died and rose again to give us. It isn't bondage, that's for sure. And giving to get is bondage. It leads to strife (compulsion, fear, ect, ect) So is religion, but that's another topic I'll want to talk about sometime later.  Crack up
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 05:49:14 PM »


Dear HeavensTears, if sowing what one reaps was worldly gain, the Apostle Paul would have been the richest. Below is an excerpt from a pamphlet I wrote.

1 Tim 4:10. For, therefore, we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the savior of all men, specially of those that believe. Repeating (2 Cor 11:30) using the NIV > Paul says, if I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness - It seems the sufferings he endured were counted by him as prosperous to his soul and life. He considered himself to be prospering and healthy only in the context of how his life was prospering in things pertaining to winning Christ. Surely it has to be evident by now that Paul at this time did not possess material wealth or bodily health, which many preachers today profess will be the normal result of a life lived for Christ. Those same preachers will also ask you to send them money or seed faith as they are fond of calling it to insure the prosperity and health you are to experience. Wise up! If it worked the way they tell it, we could expect to live on and on and get richer and richer regardless of our walk with Christ. This type of malarkey really appeals to the worldly Christian who at all cost wants nothing to do with a cross to bear. If they really believed that principle, they could reinvest all the money they received as seed faith for themselves and if those preachers only received back double the seed faith they sowed, how long would it take to become wealthy enough that they no longer needed to solicit money from you while professing they operate their ministry based upon faith alone (Dependent upon the donations of their faithful listeners or congregation? ?). If that worked, they might be able to quit selling cassette tapes at four times their cost to produce.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 08:08:34 PM »

Larry, I read your post and it seems that you and I agree.

Perhaps I should have worded it differently, but I seriously hope you know that the point of the OP wasn't even about money. Its about where our heart is in our giving. Because our heart is what God looks at. Motives always interest God, do they not?

And really, giving isn't even limited to just money (as some automatically associate it with). It can be anything, including yourself (meaning, giving your time and energy, your ears for listening, your shoulders to cry on, all for someone else who has needs).

Again, 1 Corinthians 16:14 - let all that you do be done with love.  

Love is not selfish/self-seeking. Nor is is coveteous.  Smile
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 08:22:32 PM »

Now that I think about it, I will say this:

Isn't it a fact that most churches take up an offering during, for example, Sunday church service? Some people put money in the bucket/container/bag and some don't.

If we truly have a problem with giving money or people having any kind of material health/abundance, then why not give up all YOU have, stop giving any offerings in church and just be poor? 

If you're not willing to do any of that, then be quiet and quit critisizing other preachers/churches about money.  Tipping hat
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 08:45:37 PM »

Now that I think about it, I will say this:

Isn't it a fact that most churches take up an offering during, for example, Sunday church service? Some people put money in the bucket/container/bag and some don't.

If we truly have a problem with giving money or people having any kind of material health/abundance, then why not give up all YOU have, stop giving any offerings in church and just be poor? 

If you're not willing to do any of that, then be quiet and quit criticizing other preachers/churches about money.  Tipping hat

I'm a little taken back by your tone, and I do believe in giving but not to becoming healthy and wealthy because I do. Paul gave all and ended up beheaded after spending much time in jail. Maybe you can reccomend a ministry that preaches that.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 01:33:36 PM »

I also believe in giving but not for the purpose to be healthy and and wealthy. Giving should be done because one loves God and people, without any strings attached.

I've been saying that in my posts.  Tipping hat

Paul was beheaded because he told the truth and alot of people during that time didn't like that.

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 10:18:56 PM »

I never thought of sowing and reaping to be about money. The context of the Scripture isn't about that.

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Gal 6:8  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

We, like the farmer can't reap anything unless we sow something. Sadly we often sow bad seed. If we smoke, we may get cancer, if not cancer then we will smell bad.

This seems to be a universal law and if we are to apply it to money.....it works.   Smile





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